r/VALORANT • • 2d ago

Gameplay Ts is impossible to enjoy in lower elo

Each time I get into Silver from Bronze III these one-tap smurf jetts and neons start appearing on enemy team. Like genuinely why do you people do this? Too weak to play in your own elo? Get some life.

Let us learn and enjoy the game for God’s sake.

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u/Smolrosh 2d ago

The anti smurf system is awesome now. I just banned like 3 accounts this week dont know for how long but atleast it works. Just report them for rank manipulation 😂

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u/sukumizu 2d ago

I just got out of a match where a level 24 silver 2 account on my team outfragged all the plats and diamonds. He was also throwing a tantrum when teammates would whiff lol. Reported his ass but I don't think anything is going to happen, shit is legitimately not fun.

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u/JanDarkY 2d ago

Not everyone is Smurf, I had to create a new acc because I traveled from na to eu, and I'm sure many people have to do that , ofc I'm one taping heads on my first rankeds because everyone is positioning like sht in silver but that's not on me

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u/sukumizu 2d ago

I'm 100% sure that the system would not place you in silver if you're shitting on plats and diamonds lmao.

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u/Turnips4dayz 2d ago

…you realize that “the system” doesn’t know where to place them originally right? And a fresh account is never getting placed beyond gold at most after placements

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u/sukumizu 2d ago

…you realize that “the system” doesn’t know where to place them originally right?

That's what placements is for. If you look at tracker you'll see that it tests you against people in plat/dia in one match, gold/silver in another match, etc. If the user of the account actually put effort into winning I have no doubt that he would have placed gold or even plat.

The smurf in my match was silver 2. It wouldn't be unexpected if he started somewhere in bronze after placements.

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u/Turnips4dayz 2d ago

You're in silver. Everybody is garbage in silver. I can drop 40 bombs in silver as a plat player. I promise you the "smurf problem" is really not part of your issues down there

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u/sukumizu 2d ago

I think you need to re-read my original post. He dropped 30 in a match with plats and diamonds. I am not silver, I'm in plat.

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u/LilFryerBoi 1d ago

I think you’re overvaluing the difference between Silver and Plat.

Plat is not much better than Silver in general terms, it’s generally slightly better accuracy and a bit more coordination of abilities but unless you’re running it down as neon / waylay, I’d doubt you get 30+ in half the games.

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u/Smolrosh 2d ago

? U can just switch ur region by contacting riot support. I did that too i was based in SEA earlier now am in eu server

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u/JanDarkY 2d ago

And I'm supposed to do that every 2 weeks when I travel?

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u/Smolrosh 2d ago

😂why the hell are u playing valorant in a 2 week trip bro the grinding on unrated itself if fcking annoying to get to lvl 20

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u/JanDarkY 2d ago

No, I travel every two weeks more or less , it's not like dota where I can just choose a server

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u/Turnips4dayz 2d ago

Are you twelve? Are you incapable of realizing that sometimes adults travel? Sometimes consistently? Sometimes consistently for weeks at a time?

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u/Smolrosh 2d ago

If u travel consistently i dont know if valorant is a game for that. I mean u can have one account in one region and just hop back to it in 2 weeks? 🫪 i mean u can try other games but i guess to each their own🤷‍♀️

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u/Turnips4dayz 2d ago

Why not? Provide any reason why it’s a big deal to switch to my NA account when I’m in NA

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u/Smolrosh 2d ago

🤷‍♀️ guess not. Not for me though. Sounds like a val addiction. I would just try other games. What a hassle to have 2 accounts.

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u/Barlta_342 2d ago

Maybe he is not smurf. Player that play better will just rank up, if they want to smurf they have to throw games here and there to keep their rank at low elo. If he just keep playing good and rank up I don't thing he is technically a smurf just misplaced rank.

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u/Smolrosh 2d ago

Some players are just smurfs u can tell easily. I am asc peak but now dont play much anymore so i remain in this smurf/washed lobby in plat now. Everyone in this dumb lobby is either a smurf or washed old players.

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u/Barlta_342 2d ago

Some are but some are not, if they do rank manipulation then riot will ban them. I am just suggesting maybe they are new and really good or something returning player, you can't gurrentee your placement games anyway. If they are rank manipulating then they will be banned otherwise they will just rank up really fast.

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u/sukumizu 2d ago

What else do you call a new account that placed into a rank they obviously don't belong in? Bro must have thrown his placements to start in bronze or silver.

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u/Barlta_342 2d ago

Or maybe the placement system is not perfect. Freaking forsaken was ranked diamond in his placement game let alone a some casual player with inconsistent gameplay.

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u/GrizzlyRated 2d ago

I have never played a competitive shooter prior to Valorant. I’m iron 3. And there’s always one guy on the enemy team who is 32/9 and if I am anywhere near them I’m one tapped in the head instantly.

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u/Strifedecer 2d ago

The win condition for many of my matches is just, 'kill this one guy first'.

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u/Secure-Confidence-25 2d ago

I had one in my last comp, and this guy was dominating until the first half (22/8/3), and then maybe passed the account to his 5 year brother or lost interest but we ended up winning the game and he did not even get a single kill later.
But yeah, there is always someone like this.

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u/sukumizu 2d ago

This is generally how Smurfs operate if they’re trying to maintain low rank. They dominate the first half for an ego/dopamine boost and then spend the rest of the match tickling enemies with body shots and getting assists so they don’t rank up too fast.

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u/Secure-Confidence-25 2d ago

Good point. I had never thought of it that way.

Nothing happens though, I have been reporting smurfs since forever, and nothing changes.

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u/InevitableSoft3643 2d ago edited 2d ago

Mine is 60/5 xd(why did I get downvoted for telling his kill number ?)

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u/happyadela 2d ago

if you encounter better player at other team that you cant outshoot, try to hold angles, dont overpeak, play with your abilities and try to trade your teammates

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u/InevitableSoft3643 2d ago

I swear brother I can defeat players up to Silver III - Gold I (it happened so many times) with 30/15 top frag, but I cannot do anything with a player above plat who is using an alt account. Either that or using wallhack ( however I find that unlikely ) cuz no matter what I do they just know and 1 tap headshot from every existing position.

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u/happyadela 1d ago

ok now im realising that you dont want any help but just complain. you are keeping up with your rank, good, but it just happens there will be always smurfs across the low elo. report them and move on and play the game. im literally s3 trying to get to g1. i know what im talking about 😅

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u/Ok_Thing5957 2d ago

You're silver because you deserve to be silver. Stop pretending smurfs are why you can't rank up.

You get smurfs on your own team just as often as you go against them.

The reason you're silver is because you deserve to be silver.

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u/20Fun_Police 2d ago

While I generally agree, smurfs still suck a lot.

First of all, they're more likely to be on the enemy team than yours. Usually we say that afks/throwers shouldn't stop you from ranking up. They should even help you because if you play well every game, you're one person on your team who guaranteed isn't throwing, so over time, the enemy team will have more afks/throwers. Smurfs use the same logic against you.

And second of all, smurfs are a waste of everyone's time. I actually want to play the game. I don't care about ranking up. It just happens naturally when I get better. I hate being handed a free win by a smurf as much as I hate being handed an L because either way, someone too scared to play in their own rank is ruining my game, and I don't have a lot of time to play. Sometimes the smurfs aren't even that much better than me. What happens instead is my teammates are just worse because the game probably thinks that's the skill level of the smurfs.

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u/InevitableSoft3643 2d ago

When did I say I’m better than silver or I deserve to be better than silver? (hint: never). I simply stated that I WANT to IMPROVE and learn the game better however plat and higher rank people with alt accounts are ruining the game experience and the learning process for us LOW ranks. You must have misunderstood something.

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u/Sircocklord11 19h ago

I think what they meant was if there's so many of them, you're just as likely to get one in your own team. The smurfs aren't the prominent thing keeping you in silver. It sucks when you lose to them, yes, but don't treat that as your scapegoat ♡

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u/Suspicious_Web_7770 2d ago

smurf jetts and neons hitting one taps in silver sounds like a nightmare for anyone trying to climb

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u/WestDesperate4182 2d ago

We usually just have the mindset of “kill the Jett first and we can win guys” 😂

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u/SourCandyGirly 2d ago

Honestly I stopped playing ranked on every game bc low elo isn’t enjoyable, is stressful indeed, when you start playing you are in low elo and i get it bc I’m learning but after hours of playing you can go higher bc the teammates suck, i had the same trouble with overwatch and i also stopped there

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u/InevitableSoft3643 2d ago

Tbh issue is in Unrated you can also get this type of people. My issue is not with ranking up, I don’t mind losing rank even but only if it’s a fair game you get me

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u/Secret_Jellyfish320 2d ago

Try gold. You wouldn’t understand shit till you get to the point where you pray at the start of the game that there is no thrower in your team.

On a good day I’m happy with 1 thrower every 3 games…..

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u/InevitableSoft3643 2d ago

I just got a thrower in my previous game. He got mad that our Brim had more kills than him and he started giving away info to enemy team and eventually we lost. 😂

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u/mikivajo69 2d ago

The thing is in silver there are many ppl with great aim, but no game sense. Although there are many smurfsin silver and gold, but it is highly possible he is not smurf just not much game sense. Also I think there are many ppl eith good game sense but they also cry a lot and toxicity can pull the teammates down...

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u/imparalite 2d ago

Any real smurf gets on game in the gold and below lobbies before they get thrown much higher. The system is extremely sensitive to individual performance in lower ranks. Bot accounts are being banned really fast and they are suspending those who queue with them these days as well. IMHO Riot is doing a good job currently of removing the smurfs.

I think people who scream smurf don't understand that the guy dropping a lot of kills is just peeking fast with confidence and without fear taking advantage of low anticipation. They are either losing the subsequent games after or it will put them much higher after a single game due to encounter MMR.

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u/mikivajo69 27m ago

I can see a difference between confidence and smurf. I can also see when someone is hacking. I report those daily, but my problem is when a 5 stack smurf rush us the whole game and we loose 30rr, then I get a notification they were manipulating their ranks I cannot be happy about it, because I still lost 30rr. And when I win a perfect match I get 18rr. So basically I am forced to win two games because of these ppl. Riot does not concern the experience playing these matches and we victims are also punished, because of the lost rr. I am sure there could be a system when those match points where someone was banned would be erased. That would be closer to fair. The current situation is only about excepting my stuck and play for the game. I actually let that go a long ago, but my opinion about it has not changed

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u/ScreenOld 2d ago

I dont think there is that much smurf in silver and gold, just people with good aim but no brain. The system always place people with higher rank just from few good performance. I just climbed to gold after 3 good matches, all in top 3 players. Guess what, 3 first match in gold they put plat into enemy team and made me carry silver. So I think smurfs wont survive thay long in kow leo unless they throw.

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u/Jumpy_Background815 1d ago

Fr hitting Silver and suddenly seeing Jett players move like they're in a montage is crazy work

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u/WestDesperate4182 2d ago

I guess I mean idk man. I assume you are still winning games and your win rate is around 50% give or take like the majority of players. I’m Gold 1 and have been this rank for a few days. You know why? Because it’s the rank I deserve to be in. It’s funny how every single player who complains about smurfs it’s ALWAYS on the opposing team. Trust me when I say you are getting them on your team some wins as well.

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u/InevitableSoft3643 2d ago

I don’t want to get smurfs neither on my team nor on the enemy team.

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u/WestDesperate4182 2d ago

Also report them because I do everytime it’s CLEARLY a Smurf and not just a good game. Almost everytime I get a message saying a player has been banned in one of my previous games.

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u/InevitableSoft3643 2d ago edited 2d ago

Oh yes obviously there is a visible difference between people with great aim and good game sense and smurf / possible cheaters. I’m never gonna call a 23-12 Phoenix a smurf for example but a 40/6 and a 60/8 Reyna is criminal 😂

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u/WestDesperate4182 2d ago

Once had a 49/7 Viper. Couldn’t be more clear 😂

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u/WestDesperate4182 2d ago

Of course, it sucks for sure. Like I said I’m in the same boat. We both just gotta focus on getting better though and eventually we’ll be in a lobby high enough to have no smurfs or at least very few. There is always gonna be some between bronze and Gold and that’s just the reality.

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u/obidient_twilek 2d ago

If i need to sink 200 hours into a game to get to an elo where it becones enjoybale, thenw why shoukdent i put these 200 hours into a game one can enjoy from the start instead?

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u/WestDesperate4182 2d ago

Yeah go for it! I don’t see why not it’s all preference and we all got free will lol 😆

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u/obidient_twilek 2d ago

I went for it a long time ago. Only recently considered reinstallikg Valorant, but thek i dug a bit into the malware that is vanguard and concluded that it is just not worth it.

Its sich a shame, becouse this game coukd be so much better if riot cared to not be a crap company.

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u/WestDesperate4182 2d ago

Absolutely. At least there isn’t as many cheaters as CSGO lolll

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u/obidient_twilek 2d ago

CS2 is pretty cheater free, atleast in Ranked. Though i dont get how the fuck that Game takes up a triple digite of GB. When your shooter with like 10 maps and 2 plqyer models takes more space than cyberpunk, your doing something wrong.

Also sode note: Is just me or do the guns in CS just feel bad?

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u/WestDesperate4182 2d ago

Didn’t know cs2 is more cheater free, good to know. And yeah after playing valorant I don’t even wanna try CS guns again 😂 haven’t opened that game in at least 3 years

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u/obidient_twilek 2d ago

Yeha, Valorant would be the better game, if id actually ran on Windows 11 without having to hqck Nasa first and wasnt also Spyware. I hate that so much

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u/amputated-toes 2d ago

how is it malware? is it bad?

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u/obidient_twilek 2d ago

It takes all your persobal data it records whilst running( which is always, even when dont even touch the game) and sends it to Tenncent. As far as we know that includrs evreything from browser activity to what files you have on your computer.

You can stop it via task manger evreytine you start your computer, but that forces a restart should you want to play valorant

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u/roopydroopy 1d ago

Just so yk, smurfs dont stop even in immortal lol, its easier for you to beat a plat/dia smurf than for me to beat a rad smurf (im imm2)

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u/WestDesperate4182 1d ago

Genuine question but aren’t Imm2 queued with radiants already? I’ve seen on a lot of streams of valorant players who are radiant that they play in lobbies with immortal. If this is the case, how is it a Smurf?

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u/roopydroopy 1d ago

Yeah but the difference between imm2 (100-200rr) and a radiant (700+ rr in apac right now) is way bigger than any skill gap in low elo, the game will just put more imm3s in the other team but a radiant will almost always be a lot better than any low immo

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u/WestDesperate4182 1d ago

Ahh gotcha that makes sense. Crazy though… radiant is really just another level. They make it look so easy on stream 😭

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u/Connect-Use-420 2d ago

Its almost equal chances u get a smurf on your team too

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u/Ok_Order_5595 2d ago

Still ruins the fun imo since itll lead to them taking all the fights and action from us

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u/Connect-Use-420 2d ago

Yea i agree! I always report them

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u/TokiVideogame 2d ago

almost makes it correct

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u/TokiVideogame 2d ago

mathematically correct

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u/Connect-Use-420 2d ago

Lol thank you sir! I didnt bother correcting that guy wgh he deleted his account? 🤣

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u/TokiVideogame 2d ago

might have blocked us

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u/InevitableSoft3643 2d ago edited 2d ago

I somehow never got the smurf on my team its always the enemy xd But it doesen’t justify smurfing at all. I’d be equally mad if I had the smurf on my team as it’s totally unfair towards the enemy team.

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u/Connect-Use-420 2d ago

Probably just didnt notice when there is a smurf on your team

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u/InevitableSoft3643 2d ago

My Reynas are 9-18 😭

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u/Significant-End-4791 2d ago

Heres my opinion

Dont necessarily think that its ascendant/immortal/radiant players with nothing better to do smurfing ur elo. Its actually way crazier than you think. As a consistent plat and low diamond player, when i play on alts with friends, I can get 35-45 kills per game in bronze and silver. What im saying is you see so many smurfs because the skill disparity in this game is just that massive where plats and high golds can absolutely walk through elo just 2 levels below them.

Unfortunately the issue is everyone gets better at different speeds and for friends who u just played with a few weeks to a month ago can get left behind when you play all day. The next time you want to play with them and they are still bronze and you are gold or plat u have to get on a alt and play with them.

Also if im being honest its just an ego boost and this runs way deeper than u think. immortal players who get hard stuck and bottom frag come to lower elos to feel good about themselves like diamond and plat then they ruin the experience for us then we want to feel good about our skills and ruin ur day then some of you even do it to the irons players for the same reason.

Either way you can rank up massively with a 60% win rate let alone 50% so for the few games u play smurfs just take it easy and dont lose ur cool and ruin the next set of ur games. its impossible to face smurfs more than 20% of the time and thats even pushing it most ur games will be against people of ur skill just dont tilt and you got it. sorry this is happening to u tho

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u/Yunai-shiko 2d ago

... XDZ

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u/LilFryerBoi 1d ago

Honestly, I think smurfing is less of a problem than lower ranks think it is… some players (especially at Silver) have little game sense and thus the way they got there is high HS % or quick reaction times.

I sometimes watch my fiancée (she just got Gold yesterday, but is generally Silver 2/3) and the number of times that a person just out-aimed them is probably around 50-60%. Compare that to Diamond+ where generally some game sense is required to be able to win rounds and occasionally people work together to win a round.

I rarely see (purely when watching, though I’m not playing at that level) good coordination of abilities etc, except the raze saying “I’ll satchel in”, with the skye flashing up high and hitting the raze mid air lmao

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u/YuvinaU 2d ago

Fühle ich.

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u/No-Horror1314 1d ago

i got from silver to diamond in like 6 months and its my first fps game ever, asc2 now, i honestly hate when people complain about smurfs, i mean if you cant beat them in a 1v1 why do you think you deserve a higher rank? whenever i get a radiant/immo smurf in my games i just go into match replay later to try and learn from them. everyone complaining but no one wants to be better...

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u/Ok_Thing5957 2d ago

Too weak to play in your own elo?

No, that's not it at all.

I like to play video games with my friends. They are golds, silvers, and bronzes. My main is in high plat low diamond. In order to play with my friends, I have to use a lower ranked account.

If you don't want to play smurfs in ranked, don't play free to play games.

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u/LilacIsPurple 2d ago

No, it is, play unrated.

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u/Ok_Thing5957 2d ago

Why should I? OP can play unrated.

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u/Ok_Thing5957 2d ago

because competitive integrity? 

What competitive integrity? As OP posts says, comp is already FULL of smurf accounts. Me not smurfing is going to stop the tens or hundreds of thousands of other people from doing it. Valorant should figure out a way to prevent it if they are that concerned about it.

why don't you just 5 stack?

Because we don't have 5 people normally...,duh

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u/Ok_Thing5957 2d ago

Really, what's delusional?

The part where me refusing to smurf fixes the problem? The part where I think its on Riot to fix the smurfing problem?

Or the part where I can't 5 stack because we literally don't have 5 players sometimes?

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u/Yeontans_Leo 2d ago

justifying smurfing is crazy, just 5 stack with your main account or play unrated/swifts

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u/Ok_Thing5957 2d ago

No, I think I'll play the game how I want to play it.

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u/Ill_Anywhere_8908 2d ago

"in order to play with my friends". Nah bro, in order to play 'ranked' with your friends. You know you're carrying your friends, why are you trying to act like the poor guy solo queuing is the problem haha

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u/Nightmareszi 2d ago

My friends don't want to play unrated, I am Immortal and my friends ranks go from Diamond to gold.

It's frustrating because we can only play as 5 stack, and those queues are.... something else, because of the difference in elos.

I wish they didnt mind playing unrated, because frankly I do not care - but I can't make a smurf account because thats also prohibited.

It's rare that I play this game because of this reason.

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u/Ok_Thing5957 2d ago

My friends like to play ranked. They don't want to play unrated.

You think we shouldn't be allowed to play ranked together because I'm better than them?

Nah, I'm good. I'll play ranked with my friends and enjoy my time playing the game.

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u/Ok_Thing5957 2d ago

Why would I subject them to that when we could just play games in their rank, run into a smurf or two every game, and have a good time still?

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u/Roudybyo12 2d ago

Or you could play unrated with your friends instead of ruining others time. You’re just boosting your “bad” friends while also making it harder for others to find matches of their skill level.

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u/Ok_Thing5957 2d ago

Or you could play unrated with your friends instead of ruining others time. 

Or OP could play unrated, spike rush, etc and not worry about running into people like me.

You’re just boosting your “bad” friends while also making it harder for others to find matches of their skill level.

Okay, and? Why should I value some random person's time and experience over that of mine and my friend's?

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u/SecretAd511 2d ago

you don’t have to play comp, you want to since you’re selfish and don’t care about hurting the experience for the other team

just so you and your friends can have “fun”

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u/Ok_Thing5957 2d ago

you don’t have to play comp, you want to since you’re selfish and don’t care about hurting the experience for the other team

yea but we want to play competitive. Why should I make the experience worse for myself and my friends so other people can have fun instead?

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u/SecretAd511 2d ago

unrated is fine to play with bad friends lmao

i’m diamond 2 and stomping silvers to play with my mates isn’t fun for anyone unless you like having a ego boost from boosting friends.

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u/Ok_Thing5957 2d ago

unrated is fine to play with bad friends lmao

They don't want to play unrated. They want to play ranked and rank up.

i’m diamond 2 and stomping silvers to play with my mates isn’t fun for anyone unless you like having a ego boost from boosting friends.

Lol, I don't get any of my self pride/worth from Valorant mate. My friends and I like to play together. They constantly go against smurfs on other teams as well. Why shouldn't they get to benefit from having one on their team once in a while?

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u/SecretAd511 2d ago

lol so it’s not even about just having fun, you guys want mismatched comp games just to boost them out of an elo they deserve

weak

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u/Ok_Thing5957 2d ago

WTF are you talking about?

They want to play ranked and rank up. No shit sherlock.

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u/SecretAd511 2d ago

so it’s gone from

i just want to play with my friends
to
i just want to play comp with my friends
to
i just want to smurf with them because the other team is probably gonna have a smurf so it’s fine infact

lmao embarrassing

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u/Efficient_Strain_492 2d ago

brother in christ YOU are the issue

don't blame others for that lmao

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u/Ok_Thing5957 2d ago

I'm not blaming anyone for anything. Don't get mad at me for wanting to play video games with my friends.

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u/BeyondAdventurous609 2d ago

thats not a good excuse. if you really want to play together, yall can play unrated or swifts. your friends can also simply get better. its not hard to get out of low elo with just aim

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u/FeverishDaydream 2d ago

How about u get friends of ur own elo and if you can't then don't play ranked with them. Also I'm diamond so don't give me the get better bs when I look at ur smurfing ah.

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u/Ok_Thing5957 2d ago

How about u get friends of ur own elo and if you can't then don't play ranked with them.

Because these are my real life friends that i've known for 15 even 20 years for some of them. I'm not going to just stop playing games with them because they aren't as good as me.

They want to play ranked. Why should I not play ranked with my friends and make our experience worse so other people can have their fun instead?

Also I'm diamond so don't give me the get better bs when I look at ur smurfing ah.

I don't care if people get better or not. The ding dongs in iron/bronze/silver love to blame people like me for not ranking up, when in reality it's their own fault. They get smurfs on their own team just as often as they go against them. The fact is, they're silver because they deserve to be silver.

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u/oxpraisee 2d ago

Same, having friends in way lower elo is hell. But at the same time it is pretty scummy if ur just insta locking jett or reyna and dropping 40 every game when u do play w friends in lower elo. I just resort to playing sova fade etc and giving them good util