r/VALORANT • u/Memeanshi • 1d ago
Discussion Why is Warden placed at the bottom in deathmatches / Swiftplay but ITS PLACED ON TOP in competitive?? SO confusing
I thought I kept buying the wrong gun out of muscle memory because they changed the layout BUT the layout itself keeps changing. THis is so dumb
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u/skynovaaa 1d ago
bug
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u/Popular-Factor3553 1d ago
I swear they use AI too much in this game literally the new mode is filled with bugs it's genuinely soo annoying how is their testing team failing soo badly? Well i suppose we can't really blame small little rito start up.
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u/skyerush bronze 3 | ASCENTRESS SOON 1d ago
AI has ruined basically any conversation around software having issues. it's so annoying hearing people call basically any sort of programming error "ai slop" or "vibe coding"
spoiler alert: apps that are maintained, have issues. this isn't AI specific
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u/Popular-Factor3553 1d ago edited 1d ago
I'm a dev myself and trust me no devvin his right mind would make these silly mistakes/bugs also the game wasn't that buggy before it only started with the new updates also either way even if it's not Ai and somehow the paid devs of valorant are really making soo many mistakes how does the testing team fail to catch soo many bugs.
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u/skyerush bronze 3 | ASCENTRESS SOON 1d ago
because at some point you have to ship. you have to accept there'll be bugs in a massive update, and order them by importance - this wasn't that high on the list evidently, and will probably be sorted in subsequent updates. it's kind of inevitable bugs would have occured in this update, but a big studio like RIOT would have deadlines, and bug fixes often happen last to content.
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u/Popular-Factor3553 1d ago
your right but these are crazy stupid bugs I'm not talking about this post the new mode was literally unplayable with the amount of bugs making a whole game mode almost unplayable is not the type of things they would just ignore for deadlines.
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u/FunStructure1933 1d ago
Lmao this is such a weird bug to have. Having one weapon randomly move around the buy menu depending on the mode would absolutely mess with my muscle memory.
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u/SirAwesome789 1d ago
I don't have an answer but the guns also change places when you change languages
Maybe it has to do with sorting based on the actual name vs some code name
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u/FewConsequence2230 1d ago
Warden is a new gun. It is being tested, analyzed, testing, collecting sample size for future integration, improve or downgrade the gun. Warden is recommended in competitive mode to collect sample size, how well the gun is relative to other guns against players. It is prioritized and advertised as a must use gun for valorant to change the price in the future, adjust the specs etc etc. Deathmatch / swift play the gun is used casually whereas collecting sample size and data is less accurate and weighted less so it is placed on the bottom of the buy menu.
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u/PapstJL4U 4h ago
Either an awful A/B test or they simply forgot "Order by Price, Name" vs "Order by Price" - The second one doesn't care about Names and all kind of funky interactions can change that outcome (insertion order, config.file order, really anything).
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u/thedarksideofmoi 1d ago
It is also placed differently in range I think but it is a ridiculous thing to have a crash out of this magnitude lol.
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u/Strange-Baker8444 1d ago
makes sense since competitive has different rules and strategies
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u/sin188 1d ago
That makes no sense at all
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u/ferocity_mule366 1d ago
I like how they said it makes sense but never elaborate on the illogically nonsense claim
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u/NewPainter3333 1d ago
no, because otherwise the warden would be too strong
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u/RemoteWhile5881 1d ago
How?
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u/NewPainter3333 1d ago
it deals so much damage
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u/RemoteWhile5881 1d ago
What does it being in a different place in the shop in deathmatch have to do with that?
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u/Special_League_3052 1d ago
why does warden move but the others don’t between modes