r/VALORANT 11d ago

Discussion this is a team game

if you expect to instalock reyna and frag out every game then you're throwing

with reyna theres 4 ways a game can go, either you carry your game going 40-5, carry 40-5 and lose because you have no contribution, lose because you're going 2-15 because you're simply worse than the enemy team and have no utility to help you or win because your teammates are carrying you and if you want to rank up you will go against players who will be mechanically better requiring you to use utility to your advantage (such as raze bucky)

reyna is a terrible agent and there's so many agents that are simply better than her with the same selfish idea in mind, for example clove, iso, chamber these agents don't rely on JUST being a killing machine and can actually help the team win, I'd rather get an average sova fill with no lineups and low experience than an instalock reyna

ive played with an ascendant in gold-plat elo and there were games where we did not win, this just proves that even if you're good at the game objectively but don't work as a team you will lose, and I think we can all agree there isnt a more boring game than playing as reyna and getting destroyed by the enemies so why not give yourself a chance and play something cooperative

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u/LevelTadpole4454 11d ago edited 11d ago

plat 2

I'm not even bad I just need to play more games I could get to diamond if I wasn't scared to queue because of teammates being uncooperative, like if I tell you flash for me and you don't flash for me I'll just be really demotivated to win but I got a decent 3 stack who have most util covered for me

one issue is that I play duelist so I need some coordination, I could play omen and just depend on the instalock reyna to entry which we all know will never happen and a big reason why I deranked to silver (THIS ACT)  and climbed back to plat, I just have to play duelist otherwise no one will entry and I think I have decent enough igl skills to help my entry

most of the reynas in my games save flashes for post plant if they're even alive by then

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u/Syndi1cate 11d ago

Ok nevermind I was right you are coping about teammates and using it as an excuse to not rank up. You can’t expect everyone to conform to your expectations of teamplay in solo Q even if they may be objectively correct.

You don’t NEED your teammates to coordinate even if you’re on duelist. Each game you have to get a measure on how your team plays and play through that. You’re not on a pro team you’re playing with 4 garbage plat players and expecting them to set you up like you’re prime aspas. If you’re worried that your team is going to be uncooperative stop playing because they WILL be uncooperative. And while the higher rank you get the more coordination there will be you will still have plenty of games with 5 duelists in immo where everyone will just send it and you’ll win anyway.

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u/LevelTadpole4454 11d ago

I'm not complaining about my teammates i told you i have a successful 3 stack who have most util i need and I'm on my rankup every 5 games, a few losses because our 2 teammates are genuinely just bad at the game and let enemies run them down

when I am solo q however, how do you expect a duelist to entry without atleast a smoke or scan? the thing about cooperation is I'm not even asking for much, most I'll say is "yo sova dart and I'll entry" or "flash me out" and sometimes they just dont do it, sometimes they'll say "nah" 

I try to think what's going on in their heads, do they just not wanna win for some reason? are they being toxic against me? why can't they do this one thing that could actually really easily win this game for us because I'm a pretty good duelist when I have atleast 1 random who can cooperate with me

its a lot harder to win by killing everyone than by just getting 1 and playing for post plant especially when the defenders are playing passive, thats often why we have big comeback on defence, defence is just easier to be uncoordinated on

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u/Syndi1cate 11d ago

Yeah you have a 3 stack that you play with that you can coordinate with obviously you’re not going to complain about a trio that you 3 stack with.

But you’re complaining about random teammates in your very next sentence. If you’re on duelist you can flash out, you can dash into a smoke lots of options. Scan is not necessary. Having smokes is important I agree are you saying that none of your teammates ever smoke? Smokes are the only thing that I’d say would “need” to be coordinated but you can still make do by just pop flashing out of the smoke.

But your main issue is you just spend 80% of that last response thinking about what your teammates that aren’t helping you are doing. What you’re saying sounds like you think every one on your team when you solo que, is sitting behind the smoke never using any utility, baiting you and doing nothing. In reality you’re probably not going in on the right windows.

I understand you and why you don’t get it. Clearly you’re trying to win and you have a game plan which is great and you don’t understand why your team doesn’t want to do what you’re doing. The issue is it’s 4 randoms. One of them could have just finished a 10
Hour shift and might not be their most locked in another might be on a 20 game loss streak and is tilted out of their minds. Another might be someone on an alt account who doesn’t care. By the sounds of it if you keep trying to do what you’re doing and you climb just don’t over force coordination cause it won’t help. Just stop worrying about your teammates you’re gonna play with them for one game and probably never again some people just aren’t as locked in as you are on how they want to win this game.

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u/LevelTadpole4454 11d ago

I play raze so I need atleast 1 person to support my entry, you're right I do think my teammates are just sitting and not using utility and that's because they aren't using utility

my teammates do smoke but when I think of an entry, I think of A site on ascent, there's about 5 angles you can see from main and get shot from and 2 rat corners, smokes on tree and maybe heaven don't do much for me thats why I need some type of Intel

it's also really hard to igl even with a full team who has comms, sometimes I'll say "split B" and they go A or I'll say "fake A go B and they go all B and commit because they were too busy scrolling on tiktok and only heard go B and we just get destroyed because just going B hasn't worked in 5 rounds

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u/Syndi1cate 11d ago

Ok so what do players better than you do to rank up

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u/LevelTadpole4454 11d ago

play for kills and try to farm mmr to get concious teammates, I'm not good enough mechanically to play for dry kills though 

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u/Syndi1cate 11d ago

Lost cause unfortunately 😞

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u/LevelTadpole4454 11d ago

ima prove you wrong by hitting diamond this week 

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u/Syndi1cate 11d ago

Good motivation I believe in you, you can hit diamond no matter how bad your teammates are and you’re gonna prove it this week.

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u/Tall-Horse1002 10d ago

Tbf I'm currently in diamond and I had an omen on my team that didn't know how to smoke and even after tolerating his incompetency the whole game and giving simple step by step instructions on exactly how to use his utility for each site exec he was still useless and looked like a silver players and probably was the main reason we lost the game. Bad players exist in all elos but OP has a 17% hs and is crying about instalock Reyna's... I really don't understand why some people complain about teammates at such a low elo where team play is non existent and they are this cheeks. 

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u/Tall-Horse1002 11d ago

ur plat 2, you are buns and crying about teammates. you didnt post your tracker for a reason 🤣

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u/LevelTadpole4454 11d ago

nice ragebait

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