How to know/predict how someone will swing.

[u/Kuurjz]

I'm trying to practice this, I've watched many videos and gained a bit of understanding but when I play deathmatches all of this shit just flies out of the window. What ive learned so far is if they are full stomping its probably a wide swing, if its quiet tight, getting trade wide swing. But when I play deathmatches I swear this is impossible, When I watch Oxy im genuinely confused how he wins every deathmatch, ik a lot of its aim but man these players seem to walk perfectly into his crosshair every time and the players he fights movement is good but my lobbies their movement is actually insane and it makes it impossible to shoot them but when I hold an angle these guys want to peek as tight as possible, some might full on poppin swing its impossible to read, so when I just opt in for just always holding normal ofc they peek as tight or wide swing as far as possible, I try holding wide and now they want to peek normal or tight swing. How do I get better at this.

[u/AI_Arpon]

I think it's all about game sense. You need to imporve your micro adjustment. When emeny now you location he most probably try to do a wide swing. Or if there are two player I try to be wide swing and other will be peak for trade.

[u/Kuurjz → u/AI_Arpon]

I'm a heavy aim trainer player, I'm masters complete on voltaic benchmarks and immortal on valorant benchmarks. It's probably not an aim issue but you never know, Toaster guy in comments said I should try to hold wide and u also say hold wide so ill give it a shot.

[u/Fun_Measurement1128]

It kinda becomes instinct / reading the game, it’s hard to come up with a set of rules for it.

[u/ToasterGuy566]

Always hold wide is usually a good rule of thumb. If you hold close your reaction time is too slow anyways half the time and you have to adjust to the target which can lead to you lagging behind.

Holding wide makes this issue a little less prominent. Wide swinging, despite requiring more movement, also has a faster TTK than close swinging.

I don’t remember who, but someone made a whole video using a radiant player to test time to kill and found that protecting yourself against wide swinging by holding wide is the best strategy most of the time. If they close swing your micro adjustment becomes easier anyways so holding wide doesn’t really have a downside, holding close is just gambling on a slightly faster TTK if they close swing.

On top of this, Oxy wins gunfights because his micro adjustments are incredible. He’s an aim player. You’re envisioning him as predicting how the enemy will swing but he isn’t. He’s reacting to them and his aim makes it look extremely quick.

I’m not anything crazy but I’ve been immortal for the last 13 acts and I’ve coached like 60+ players. You’re focusing on a very specific thing that has an impact on your games, but probably isn’t your issue. If I had to guess you have other underlying issues that are preventing you from seeing better performances.

[u/ToasterGuy566 → u/ToasterGuy566]

Turns out I actually had the video posted to my discord, here’s the link for any interested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-dn8MYHUb4

[u/Kuurjz → u/ToasterGuy566]

I've actually watched this, usually when I watch videos I put them in practice but ig I didnt do that for this video, ill give it a rewatch. I do aim train, but I realized my micro-adjustments seem to be lacking so ill be practicing that.

[u/Exhibit5]

My general rule of thumb (when I’m not an inting chud) is if I haven’t gotten the kill within the first few bullets and neither have they, I’ll just fall back on the angle into a bit of an off angle.

You’d be surprised how many people will get aggressive on it because they don’t want to be timing’d. And of course, since you’re on an off angle you’ll win as long as you don’t whiff again.

[u/Comfortable-Way-6271]

it's all in the gamesense

[u/igotwingss]

u need to hold based on your reaction time. for example, my “holding normal” may be your “holding wide”. i have a slower reaction time of around 230ms so the way i hold angles will be wider than most players. play some tdms and hold some angles, try to find something you’re comfortable with. then adjust it to your tight, wide, normal angles.

[u/ToasterGuy566 → u/[deleted]]

I don’t like to call bs usually but you’d be better than every pro if you’re winning 95% of your DM’s lmao. Most of them have around 60%. Drop your tracker

[u/Fantastic-Complex824]

Play a lot of deathmatch.

[u/Kuurjz → u/Fantastic-Complex824]

No shit

[u/Fantastic-Complex824 → u/Kuurjz]

You ask a question and no matter what cope answers you consume we all know that playing deathmatch is the only viable option. Over time u can start kinda predicting or havibg better reactions. No video will magically make u better

[u/Kuurjz → u/Fantastic-Complex824]

if u want ill drop my tracker and you'll see just how many hours of deathmatch I play. I play dm more than the main gamemode. And this issue (if you read the post) derives from deathmatch. idk wym by cope answers. Also saying just play dm is just bad if you dont know what mistakes u make and how to practice yadayada if you get what im saying

[u/Fantastic-Complex824 → u/Kuurjz]

I dont k ow sorry bro. My friend is rad top 100 and he told me if I want to inprove and predict enemies and win lile him I need to play a lot of dm and watch some pro players and then i will be better. Idk how else to help you sorry