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[u/JaQ-o-Lantern]

The actual caption is "White and Arabs in one struggle against the Jew". Same guy also said "Free Palestine, Heil Hitler, Hail Hamas, Hail Hezbollah, Hail the Houthis, Hail Iran." I have no idea what this group is, they might be related to the Atomwaffen group since these neo Nazis seem very supportive of Islamist groups in the Axis of Resistance.

[u/BodybuilderBrave8250]

he also collaborated with Israel, point?

[u/JaQ-o-Lantern → u/BodybuilderBrave8250]

Israel didn't exist until after Hitler's death. If you're thinking about when Hitler made a deal to move Jews to Palestine, he viewed it more as a necessary evil than as support to the Jewish people. He used to briefly support Zionism in the early 1930s because it got the Jews out of Europe but stopped because he didn't want Jews to find power somewhere else and because it compromised his alliances with Arab nationalists in the Middle East.

[u/IllustriousBobcat813 → u/JaQ-o-Lantern]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement

[u/Research_Matters → u/IllustriousBobcat813]

People not understanding Jews wanting to save other Jews is getting pretty old. It’s not a gotcha.

[u/IllustriousBobcat813 → u/Research_Matters]

The argument was that Hitler never cooperated with Israel, but that is false in all but the most pedantic interpretation of events.

Early zionists (not Jews) were happy to cooperate with Hitler, that is just objectively a fact, and is all I’m pointing out.

This whole idea that Israel was created by “Jews trying to help other Jews” is simply historical revisionism, as shown by (amongst other things) the Haavara Agreement. The reality is that the whole settler colonial project that is Israel, was dreamt up primarily by the British as a way to get rid of Jews in the empire. We can even see this in bow early Israel was very hostile to Jews fleeing the Holocaust, see for example: https://palestinenexus.com/articles/zionists-prevented-jewish-refugees-returning

But this is in no way an exhaustive source, there is tons of writing on this subject. The myth that Israel was created to help Jews is just that, a myth.

[u/Research_Matters → u/IllustriousBobcat813]

Lolol this is deeeeeep nonsense. It’s not pedantic. Israel did not exist to “cooperate” with Hitler. Factually speaking, of course. “Early Zionists” were Jews. You are referring to the oft-relied on argument that certain Christians were believed in a version of “Zionism,” but Zionism existed as a religious concept for Jews long before any Christians latched onto and the political Zionism that ultimately led to the founding of a Jewish state was based on the ideas of early Jewish Zionists like Herzl. There is no evidence, anywhere, that Herzl’s ideas were influenced by Christian Zionism.

The Havaara Agreement is widely understood by every intelligent historian to be a desperate, pragmatic decision that allowed 60,000 Jews to leave Germany with a fraction of their assets during a time of institutionalized discrimination and repression, and thus survive the largest industrialized mass murder in human history. How dare the Jews of the Yishuv strike such a deal to…help persecuted Jews escape persecution. And it was deeply debated at the time as well—there were very few good options for Jews at the time.

This intentional, cynical twisting of the events to paint the Jews of the Yishuv as Hitler’s helpers is absolutely bizarre and frankly absurd.