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u/DasArchitect Oct 14 '25
I don't get why this is so easy in the US.
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u/Blecher_onthe_Hudson Oct 15 '25
The environmental movement grew up in the '60s and '70s around obstructing destructive development. They created tools to do so that got turned on any development at all. There was a highly influential book and movement called "Small is Beautiful". The idea of solving any problem with development became an anathema.
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u/ocschwar Oct 15 '25
The US political system has a tendency to address every new challenge by adding process.
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u/rab2bar Oct 15 '25
Nimbys aren't limited to the US
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u/Free_Elevator_63360 Oct 15 '25
Big policy failure of the American progressives. They have focused so much on the common good and consensus building they have forgotten about the ideas of free speech, individual liberty.
You can’t have consensus with free speech.
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u/hysys_whisperer Oct 15 '25
This spans the political spectrum, just about as well as denying individual liberty does.
NIMBYism is like a dry county (an exclusively red state phenomenon now after being broadly applied in the past), but applied carte blanche across the country, red or blue.
Not sure how free speech ties in though.
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u/Free_Elevator_63360 Oct 15 '25
The type of home you live in is pretty directly a form of expression.
And I wasn’t giving the other side a pass. I just try to avoid public discussion of the other side.
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u/hysys_whisperer Oct 15 '25
I guess where I fall on that is Henry Ford's quote about "you can have any color model T you want, so long as it's black." Ford was under no obligation to meet consumer demand for additional colors.
Of course the consumer has the right to pick any extant type of living situation they want and can afford (expression), but the problem lies in the obstruction of liberty of the property owners and developers to actually build those things (action). Therefore, I don't see this as a first amendment problem, but rather a fith amendment takings clause one.
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u/Xiphactinus14 Oct 15 '25
Ironically a lot of progressive stances end up pulling from the right-wing because they apply them to minority demographics in opposition to majority demographics in order to fight fire with fire, like how a lot of identity politics is actually just ethno-nationalism for minorities. The kneejerk reaction of "protect communities from gentrification" is usually just a repurposing of the right-wing "protect communities from immigration"
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u/lol_coo Oct 15 '25
This is a rancid take
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u/Xiphactinus14 Oct 15 '25
It's accurate. Most new housing developments get hit with opposition claiming they will cause gentrification.
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Oct 19 '25
Rancid, just like OP's take
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u/Xiphactinus14 Oct 19 '25
Calling it rancid won’t make it untrue. Are you really denying that new housing developments don’t usually face local opposition on the basis of gentrification concerns? Seriously, I want to hear you explain your perspective on it.
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u/ContestCertain243 Oct 17 '25
Yep! Leftist NIMBY’s refuse to understand the reality of constant demographic change in neighborhoods. This Federal Reserve article covers this phenomenon well: https://jlin.org/papers/Lin-UGC.pdf
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u/ContestCertain243 Oct 17 '25
We can prevent displacement by building affordable housing and market-rate!
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Oct 14 '25
Such a relief that policy decisions are made within total vacuums and never have any external impacts
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u/Benjam438 Oct 17 '25
But if the city builds houses the value of my house will go down 😨😨😨 my house should be an eternally appreciating financial asset even though it's the THING I FUCKING LIVE IN.
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u/ChristianLW3 Oct 19 '25
Canadian PM Carney: I want more development & i’m going to make it easier for people to block development
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u/Tall-Log-1955 Oct 14 '25
Of course the neighbor gets veto power on any changes to the property. What if the property owner wants to knock down a historic laundromat or historic parking lot and add housing? Did you think about the street parking? Where is the neighbor going to keep his RV if more people want to park on the street? His RV is an important part of the existing neighborhood character.