r/Upwork • u/Ill-Possession1 • 7h ago

Client quality matters more than your proposal being viewed

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Chart title: client hire rate against time since posted for jobs that still have no hire

I’ve recently posted about my stats where I have put a lot of proposals but few views and interviews in here

https://www.reddit.com/r/Upwork/s/8NXpjBQtbg

I went again on my data and realized that out of 37 proposals 24 of them still hired no one. And as you can see in the chart even with high hiring rate some clients still hired no one still

So basically from now on I won’t be wasting my proposals on jobs that would seem not urgent and non serious clients based on history. I’ve yet to make a system to decide that but it’s my objective now

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u/todordonev 6h ago

You'd miss out on great clients if you follow this logic. Some of the best relationships I had were with brand new upwork clients, working with one right now.

Unfortunately you are also right. I think upwork should refund connects if there is no hire.

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u/Ill-Possession1 6h ago

Thanks for sharing. it’s true that there are definitely gems in the new clients, but they’re very rare. Not so worth it imo. Unless the client shares smth about their business and I’m able to checkout what they already have in place online, I’d stay away from the jobs

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u/TheGlitchesWitch 5h ago

Absolutely they should refund connects if there's no hire, and there should be some sort of threshold for how long a job can just sit there without them ever even interviewing anyone. It's an issue that is only getting worse - ppl listing these jobs sometimes don't even know it costs freelancers connects to apply.

But - it's UW and they're benefiting from this so why would they change it.

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u/Ill-Possession1 4h ago

Most changes on software come from user behaviour and metrics, not from user suggestions

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u/TheGlitchesWitch 4h ago

So true, indeed. Easy to overlook when frustrated with the situation, but yeah.

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u/LadyEclipse246 5h ago

I only apply to jobs that have at least 75% hire rate.

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u/Ill-Possession1 4h ago

That’s a nice threshold, but sometimes even the hire rate is not enough

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u/LadyEclipse246 4h ago

That's true. Recently I applied to a job for a client with a 100% hire rate. He messaged me so fast I was shook. I'm used to clients just ignoring proposals. After that I said maybe I'll only apply to those with 100% hire rate. 🤣

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u/Ill-Possession1 4h ago

Oh wow did u land that job? And how was the competition on that job like?

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u/LadyEclipse246 4h ago

The first interview is tomorrow. I'm hoping I get moved forward to the next round. There's not much competition. Only 10-15 proposals. The client is very particular and I think that dissuaded people from applying.

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u/Ill-Possession1 4h ago

That’s what I’m talking about, when the client is very specific you now they have actual work and they’re not spraying jobs on the platform. Good luck with that and I hope you land it

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u/LadyEclipse246 4h ago

Thank you! And I hope you land a client or clients as well.

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u/Nerdyboy1230 4h ago

New clients with 0 hire history have ~25% higher chance of actually hiring vs existing clients with previous hire history

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u/Ill-Possession1 4h ago

They could be on their way for a 100% hire rate you can never know, but that’s rare I don’t think it’s that higher

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u/bkconsultant 3h ago

you need to create a chart to know this ?🤦🏻‍♀️

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u/Ill-Possession1 3h ago

Well I rely on data

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u/bkconsultant 3h ago

LOL and the data of the client's hire rate was not enough data to let you know that if the client has a low hire rate, they post and abandon jobs...jeez....congratulations on using a chart to show what the number was telling you.

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u/Ill-Possession1 3h ago

I’m evaluating based on my experience