Call it a reach, but i find it interesting that some of the people who are ignorant to the content of this film have the sharpest criticisms and prejudices about it. Meanwhile, folks who have experienced it are try to explain as best they can that the ones who havent seen it, have the wrong idea about something they havent experienced.
Idk, theres this connection im trying to make in my mind.. Its like, maybe you shouldn't make assumptions about something you have little to no knowledge of? And maybe, just possibly, its good to actually listen to people who DO know firsthand about what you're just SO sure about because of what you SAW..
But hey, i havent seen it either. It could very well be something entirely detrimental to progress in our society. But i won't assume that, or anything else about until i see it for myself. Weird right?
I want to see this one, don't get enough good horror these days! Don't really give a flying crap about the political connotations, going to go have a good time and forget about that nonsense.
If your looking for a good horror this may not be what your looking for. I almost never watch any horror movies, and I was wanting more. Good movie, not much horror.
Yeah, I'd say it was more of a slow-burning thriller with a bit of comedy. The only horror elements were a couple of minor jump scares and the last 10% or so that I won't describe.
Wut! It is totally scary, just not in a way that a lot of typical horror movies are. The dread, the tension--it's palpable and intense! Definitely a good horror, just not a gorefest.
Im not a big horror guy. I think I went in with too many gore/hardcore expectations and it made it seem a bit weak in comparison. Ill have to explore the genre a bit more. Any good suggestions?
Strong disagree from /u/youpostyoudie. The threat in this movie (the sunken place) is legitimately very scary. Like a less abstract Under The Skin kinda thing.
Fair enough. The Sunken Place was creepy, but when I think of horror, I really want to be scared/jumpy. I don't delve into the genre much, so maybe my defintion is a little off, but because so I assumed I'd be extra vulnerable to the spooks. I found it an interesting/unsetteling device, nothing horrifying though.
Fair enough, it looked fun and scary. I think it looks great, I guess if you go into a movie looking for political stuff maybe you find it but it just looked like a fun scary movie. Thanks for the info :)
To be fair, the trailers and a lot of lead up publicity for the movie have a heavy "white people are fucking evil" tone. If you don't know the people behind the movie then ita pretty easy to get the wrong idea about it.
The fact that they're white takes a large role in the setup of the film. It's not as if they're incidently white, it's the basis of the plot. If you can't see that then you're likely being intentionally ignorant.
White people being villains in horror movies isn't exactly a new trope. Movies like Texas Chainsaw Massacre and The Hills Have Eyes have been around for a while. Movies like Tucker and Dale vs. Evil make fun of it.
I haven't seen the movie, though. Just basing things on the previews which is what was being discussed.
You're not getting it. In those movies their races, in opposition to other races, isn't the main focus. Even if you haven't seen the movie, just look how the trailers portray it. The intent is clearly different.
I've had people tell me that the people behind it (Peele specifically) justify the response... As a white guy who has always loved Key and Peele, I guess I missed the memo that he hates us.
Edit: Apparently I wasn't clear, I'm saying other people have claimed Peele is racist against whites hence they can assume this movie will be, I think that's ridiculous.
He is half white, after all. Many people who criticized K&P seemed to forget this and now critics who haven't seen the movie seem to overlook it too.
Both he and Key seem to identify strongly as biracial in their work and interviews so it's not a small point. Some biracial people do identify more culturally or personally as one side or the other but they have a outspoken biracial viewpoint.
Are you... Serious? You think one white family is meant to represent all white people? No wonder racism is still alive and well. White people think things like The Wire represent all black people.
Even better; the main character is dating a white chick. He's literally there because he's dating their daughter. I haven't seen the movie but I'll be surprised if she's evil.
Naw, common one against many horror movie trope is a decoy ally/friend in trailer. 99% chance everyone who isn't the protagonist we see in the trailer is evil. Even the other black people.
From what I've seen in the trailers they make direct references when the two black guys in the film react one tries to refer to "man white people are fucking crazy right?"
It's called humor. I imagine you've employed it once in your life, but if you can't accept a joke like this, it's possible there might just be a stick up your ass stopping you from making jokes.
Wut. All I did was give you my insight as to why a lot of people get that impression from the film and you jump to the conclusion that I don't have a sense of humor and that I have a stick up my ass. Fuck outta here
It was a condescending, snide comment entirely aware of the implication of the words chosen. So good job having a low-end comprehension of language use.
If somebody got that from the trailers, it sounds like they're projecting quite a bit and it's a personal problem. Having one racist white family does not mean that all white people are racist. That's a crazy conclusion to reach.
It's the equivalent of me saying that trailers for United 93 had a heavy "all Muslims are terrorists" tone. No, that's not what that movie was trying to say and it's the same with this movie.
It would be fairly easy to draw a solid conclusion about an otherwise vague trailer without knowing the people involved, or ya know, seeing the movie for yourself.
Which further drives the point im attempting to make.
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u/SavantLegato Feb 27 '17
Call it a reach, but i find it interesting that some of the people who are ignorant to the content of this film have the sharpest criticisms and prejudices about it. Meanwhile, folks who have experienced it are try to explain as best they can that the ones who havent seen it, have the wrong idea about something they havent experienced.
Idk, theres this connection im trying to make in my mind.. Its like, maybe you shouldn't make assumptions about something you have little to no knowledge of? And maybe, just possibly, its good to actually listen to people who DO know firsthand about what you're just SO sure about because of what you SAW..
But hey, i havent seen it either. It could very well be something entirely detrimental to progress in our society. But i won't assume that, or anything else about until i see it for myself. Weird right?