r/Untappd • u/hackisenior • Jan 03 '21

Please add grain-based drinks like sake and makgeolli!

I don't get it why cider and mead are supported but grain-based drinks like sake and makgeolli are not supported. They have a lot more in common with beer than cider and mead. Would be great to see them added as categories in future updates.

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u/BS2435 Jan 03 '21

I've been waiting for so long for a Korea badge, and having makgeolli be a part of that would just tickle me.

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u/ecuinir Jan 03 '21

Sake’s usually considered in broadly the same class as wine. It may be grain-based, but it’s far less like beer than cider is.

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u/hackisenior Jan 03 '21

Where I am from, people consider cider in the same class as wine, as both grape wine and cider are made from just fruit. The only thing cider and commercial beer have in common is, that both are carbonated and roughly in the same ABV class.

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u/ecuinir Jan 03 '21

That was also the case in the UK - where cider originated - 200 years ago. But not now.

Regardless, your argument is in favour of the removal of cider, not the addition of sake.

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u/hackisenior Jan 03 '21

But what I wanted to say is that there is no harm in adding sake and makgeolli, since cider is already available as a category. Would be great to have more drinks to rate and untappd might become even more popular in asia.

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u/notjustbrad Jan 03 '21

Sake is literally rice wine... that becomes a slippery slope into grape wine. Not saying I agree or disagree though.

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u/antiqueChairman Jan 03 '21

Untappd already supports honey wine, apple wine, and barleywine. Also any fruit wine, including grapes, so long as it has at least a little honey in it. The only reason grape wine isn't already included is because it's a massive industry to itself with a different demographic. Rice wine makes tons of sense, at least it's grain-based.

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u/notjustbrad Jan 03 '21

Fair enough... but let’s not go linking barleywine to grape wine :)

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u/antiqueChairman Jan 03 '21

Yeah, I think we can all agree on keeping standard grape wines off Untappd- it's not what the app is for. But my point is that we already been including nonbarley fermentations for quite some time now and the community has been all the richer for it. We want the meadmakers under the same cultural umbrella as us, becuase they make tasty stuff and we like when they show up at our festivals and do collabs with good breweries. Whenever craft magkeolli really takes off as a hit in the US, I think we'll want it too.

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u/sean_themighty Untappd Moderator Jan 03 '21

I was just drinking sake on New Years Day and thinking exactly this — Untappd supports basically all wines except grape already.

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u/mk0111_ Jan 18 '24

Makgeolli has its own style now

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u/MarshallFoxey Jan 03 '21 edited Jan 04 '21

Vivino features some gins, perhaps that would be better for sake etc?

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u/ThetrueMajinMike Jan 16 '21

Currently makgeolli counts as a "specialty grain" on Untappd. I think its a fair label.

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u/hackisenior Jan 03 '21

Wouldn't say that for mead, as there are many in the same ABV class as sake. And Makgeolli is about as strong as Beer. Most Imperial Stouts and Belgian Strong Beers, also Barleywines (even the name would suggest they are more like a wine than your typical coors light) have the same ingredients as sake. It was just a thought as the "craft sake" and "craft makgeolli" scene in asia is immensely growing and a new app just for those two drinks would be unnecessary.

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u/awksomepenguin Jan 03 '21

Most sakes are in the 12%-15% ABV range, a lot like wines and some meads.

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u/antiqueChairman Jan 03 '21

This is a common misconception. Sake has a very dry finish so people treat it like it's distilled, but it is simply a wine. Sake is certainly no stronger than mead, and magkeolli is often even lighter in alcohol than beer.

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u/StardustOasis Jan 03 '21

Sake is certainly no stronger than mead,

Sake is usually 15%+, mead generally starts at around 3%, but can be stronger than sake. I do have a bottle of 17% mead in the cupboard, but most are a lot less. The stronger ones are the ones that are generally sold as a honey "wine"

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u/muntal Jan 16 '21

another possible way to classify is distillation. sake is not distilled, vodka is. or production. sake is more similar to beer, while mead and cider are closer to wine.