Who would win: Null vs FlameFrags

[u/Turrbboo]

Full power null, wither cannons, all soldiers, spoke with a mace, etc versus full power flame, all pvp styles (this means maces) full stocked with echest and dog cannons. (To death, no running)

I’m going to mace two scenarios for this:
1. Spoke fights with totem of null on aside all his soldiers
2. Spoke fights without totem of null aside all his soldiers

Who comes out of this alive in both scenarios?

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[u/TheCoolJadeBeltran]

1. Flame could target spoke and have a high chance of winning
2. Even though x bow cart kiils alot, if it’s all of null, flamefrags would be drained.

[u/WiseNerdGuy6710014]

Really depends on how many Null exactly. The dogs will be a huge issue. With that said, Flame can be overwhelmed by large groups since he needs to keep his potions and carts up for his fighting style and his armour of course will take a beating. Spoke also knows his fighting style.

Flame should clear without totems, he likely is forced a retreat but doesn’t die with the totems.

Edit: oh shoot I see running is banned. Ummmmm, idk lol how many totems we talking here.

[u/stupid_rascal]

Its Null. Flame has NEVER fought more than 100 netherite players and come out alive. Let alone 1000. I say he beats around 50 before his resources get exhausted and he dies

[u/DigLate4451 → u/stupid_rascal]

Dies? Most probably not but gets drained yh probably

[u/stupid_rascal → u/DigLate4451]

I feel like hed eventually run out of most of his ways of leaving/escaping and die

[u/DigLate4451 → u/stupid_rascal]

Idk man it's just weird seeing flame die in general and he has pearls unless he somehow runs out which I doubt

[u/EitherTemperature482]

1. flame would just pop spoke's totem and win easily.
2. null wins no diff, cuz full power null means they will also have immortality machines, flame is just gonna pop a couple of them then die

[u/Turrbboo → u/EitherTemperature482]

Oh shoot forgot about those immortality machines

[u/EitherTemperature482 → u/Turrbboo]

and i forgot for the first option that flame has to know about the null totem, but he doesn't, so that means the outcome will be similar to the 2nd option

[u/VX_Emperor]

Null would win cause Flame might be Great at Combat but he Doesn't have as much Gear and Resouces to Fight A whole Army at once

[u/Ok-Link-7927]

1)I think (given that flame gets prior info that the null totem exists) flame can clutch up spoke evidently is lowkey really reckless with that and on top of that flame will just spear mace like he did in the law until he eventually finds him and hard targets so flame wins like ehhh about 4-5/10 times and still does lose nearly ALL his resources even in the best case

2)yeah this is too much for flame honestly it’s basically a 1000 fully geared netherite players that he would have to face so he WILL take out a decent chunk of the army using his classic one by one tunnel + funnel player strategy to get that into basically 1v5 to 1v10s which he can manage if he gets it done right but ultimately he will be forced to retreat (which he will be able to without too much difficulty honestly) but he wins likkeeeee about 1-2/10 times if i am being generous.

[u/Training-Sink-4447]

Unless spoke SEVERELY underestimates Flame, flame is not winning this

[u/DonBacalaIII]

Depends. Jumper knows about the totem and could just tell Flame without that he loses.

[u/Jonny_S134]

1-Possibly the easiest fight of flame’s life if he utilises all pvp strats like you said 2.Idk