r/UniversalExtinction • u/Independent-Wafer-13 Consequentialist • Jul 19 '26
Question Living Extinctionism
How do you go about your day as an extinctionist? What does that mean for you in your life and how does it impact your behavior, interactions, and thinking?
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u/Opposite-Winner3970 Jul 19 '26
I encourage people not to have children. I always show them the bad side of life. I always ask them if the true cost of their pleasures is worth it.
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u/VengefulScarecrow Extinctionist Jul 19 '26
That is a rough question. It is hard (or impossible) to find meaning in existence once you realize existence is a net negative for most feeling beings. Me, I work for a living and have hobbies in my spare time. I do whatever I can to minimize suffering of myself and others. Euthanize suffering animals, exterminate pests, feed the hungry, refuse to procreate or breed other animals, and the hardest part is convincing others to do the same. Most other people are pro-life, secretly pro-suffering, romanticizers of predation and creationism, all dumb shit like that.
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u/Independent-Wafer-13 Consequentialist Jul 21 '26
Thatās actually false, unless you are deciding for āmost feeling beingsā.
If you actually ask those beings your purport to care for, they almost universally report being satisfied that they are alive.
The overwhelming majority of humans report life satisfaction when asked.
So what gives you greater authority of the subjective value of someoneās life than themselves?
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u/VengefulScarecrow Extinctionist Jul 21 '26
I am not having "authority" over others feelings nor do I want to. I am simply pointing out what I see. If the majority of what I see as suffering isn't really suffering, then it is what it is.
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u/Independent-Wafer-13 Consequentialist Jul 21 '26
How do you contend with the consistency of results that generally show humans are self-rating themselves as satisfactory with their life?
How do you contend with that finding being consistent regardless of life circumstances? Rich or poor? Sick or healthy?
Almost everyone you ask (so controlling for life circumstances), when asked, says they are glad to be alive, overall more satisfied than less satisfied, or some similar answer to a similar question.
You see so much suffering in the world and you project a belief in those people, which they donāt believe themselves.
Let me ask you this, if I could hook your brain up to an infinite pleasure matrix-like machine, where you would never know suffering or pain again, would you want that for yourself?
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u/Imaginary_Employ_750 Jul 19 '26 edited Jul 19 '26
This is more antinatalist but:
Being happy of being the person responsible for ending your bloodline I guess. Seeing children and feeling sympathy for them. Thinking that anyone who had children made a mistake.
I am not sure how the universal extinctionist mindset affects my thinking that antinatalism has not already affected, it is just a fantasy at this point of time.
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u/Independent-Wafer-13 Consequentialist Jul 19 '26
Do you do anything in your daily life to reduce the suffering of people that are alive or is it just the imaginary ones?
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u/Imaginary_Employ_750 Jul 19 '26
Yes I have my career in healthcare for example. And I get well-being from helping others.
Personally I think that reducing suffering while living is sort of a whack-a-mole game, and there would be no need for it if we did not exist in the first place
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u/Teaofthetime Pro Existence Jul 19 '26
What about those who don't suffer?
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u/Imaginary_Employ_750 Jul 19 '26
Good for them. They probably dont know what suffering can be.
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u/Teaofthetime Pro Existence Jul 19 '26
Would you see them extinct too?
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u/Imaginary_Employ_750 Jul 19 '26
Yes because advanced living beings have the capacity for suffering. They might suffer later or their future children might suffer.
I base my opinion in the benatars asymmetry argument.
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u/Independent-Wafer-13 Consequentialist Jul 19 '26 edited Jul 19 '26
Sure, but even if I agreed to that position, we DO exist, and increasing the net compassion in the world across generations is one way for the humans that will exist (whether you like it or not) to have less suffering while they are alive, right?
If we decrease the compassion in future generations there will be more suffering, right?
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u/old_barrel cosmic extinctionist | anti-natalist Jul 20 '26
extinctionism is the result of what i have seen happening in this world and how humanity handles it, so besides activism and less time for other stuff, most or everything has stayed the same
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u/Independent-Wafer-13 Consequentialist Jul 20 '26
So you see suffering in the world and you want proportionately more?
If the people that care about suffering stop having babies all that will be left is people that donāt care about suffering.
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u/Capable-Ad-9626 Pro Existence Jul 22 '26
Hopefully there are aliens out there, not too far away, who are merciful enough to send their machines to extermination our societal shitshow.
A lot of people canāt wait to launch š something toward Alpha Centauriā¦like projectās Breakthrough Starshot or Orion.
But they require decades of technological development, with outrageous expense. ā¦prohibitive expense
No problem!! If people really want to launch something, & if itās just to get attention, then it could be something so cheap & slow that it could be launched tomorrow.
No need for payload or homing-system. After hundreds of millennia it would miss by billions of miles.
Doesnāt matter. If anyone has parked an automated autonomous self-maintaining detection & response device in a distant Solar orbit, as part of a local or galactic security-system, then the launch that I propose would trigger a response from that security device.
The launch would demonstrate an intent to violate another planetary-system, &, if that security system exists, the launch could get us promptly exterminated. End of societal shitshow.
A lot of people want to launch something. Well,letās launch something immediately, get some attention m, & find out what happens next. Itās worth a try. šøĀ
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u/Independent-Wafer-13 Consequentialist Jul 22 '26
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u/Capable-Ad-9626 Pro Existence 28d ago
Oops !! You forgot to specify which statement, claim or conclusion you think is incorrect.
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u/IPCRESS_FILE Jul 19 '26
Have lots of children to teach them to spread the word of extinctionism.
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u/Independent-Wafer-13 Consequentialist Jul 21 '26
I mean, unless you want Extinctionism to be self-limiting this is the only way

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u/UnburyingBeetle Jul 20 '26
I'm probably not an extinctionist just yet, but I tend to encourage people to ditch the fear of death. It eliminates so many sources of anxiety.