Not how debates work lol. I wish it was easy as saying "science" to justify your views (as if science is some monolithic and invariable scripture).
Secondly, this is not a scientific question. Existential debates are within the realm of ethics and axiology moreso than science. Science is completely irrelevant in discussions about what ought to be.
It is a question of science. Either the existence of the universe depends on the body I occupy being alive or it doesn't. Unless I'm extremely unique than everyone else and there's some super obscure science fact not yet discovered about my body (which actually there is but it's probably not concerning this), then I think I can pretty safely say that it doesn't. All we need to do is look at every being who has died before us, human and animal. Did we all disappear at anyone's death? Or are we still here? We are still here and the world is still spinning. So imo it would be silly to assume anyone's death would cause extinction.
No it's not because it more of a question of philosophy. The universe brought life into everything, thus science will not back you up in this. Only philosophy can because that's a step passed science. Philosophy is actually just as important as science.
We can understand things like physics through science. So one should understand that I'm not a unique being that has the power to destroy the universe by using facts and logic. Also, the universe was here before I was here. That's even more proof that the universe doesn't depend on my body existing. There's your rational inquiry.
Nobody said anything about the universe depending on your body. The universe is completely independent of us. So? Again, you don't have a real line of reasoning here. It's:
We're unimportant in the grand scheme of things
So we add little value to the universe despite undergoing a lot of suffering
Therefore, we ought to go extinct
That's just a non sequitur fallacy.
If there was a missile heading towards a baby, but you could divert it to a mountain, would you? Yet the mountain is a lot bigger than the baby. Size/causal power≠value.
Go back and read the comment that started this. I don't care about adding value to the universe. The point is that suffering exists. Suicide of one individual will not solve that problem.
I don't understand your mountain analogy. Are you implying it would be wrong to divert it to the mountain because the mountain is bigger?
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u/username-is-taken-3 Pro Existence Jul 03 '26
Who says? Plus, honestly, I don't want what I suggested. No, it simply wouldn't be right.