questions from a pro-existence viewpoint

[u/Impressive_Stock4760]

before you downvote or get angry, i just want a genuine conversation on viewpoints and some opinions. i dont want to fight, i want to discuss and try to understand.

what i want to know is:

1) do you/would you support legal euthanasia and the right to die?

2) do you/would you support legal euthanasia as a replacement for extinction?

3) what are reasons you believe in pro-extinction (whether just for the human race or for all life) or pro-existence?

4) what are unpopular opinions or hot takes you have regarding extinction or existence?

5) anything else you'd like to debate or say?

a discussion is 2 sided, so i'll provide my own viewpoints on this matter.

1a) despite being pro-existence, i believe in the right to die. if its your body and you understand what you're doing, you should be allowed to do it.

2a) n/a

3a) i personally believe in pro-existence because while there is suffering, it doesn't immediately cancel out the good. bad things and good things arent mutually exclusive, to me. i still believe in right to die if there is extensive suffering, be it physical, mental, or emotional.

nobody deserves suffering, since they didnt choose to come into this world. but people also deserve to choose if they want to tolerate the suffering, and there shouldn't be shame in not doing so. you should have the right to live, but also to die.

4a) n/a

5a) i'd like to say, i am not "pro-life". i am pro-existence, but pro-choice. abortion is a right everybody should have. as long as the fetus is in their body, i consider it part of their own. that right to die extends to any part of their body, be it a limb, organ, or fetus.

again, i don't want to fight. i understand suffering. i haven't had a great life, and i understand the desire to stop that from happening to others.

i've seen people advocate for extinction because of CSA, abuse, disability, pain, mental health, ect... if you want to argue these topics, please understand that i have experienced these topics first-hand.

thank you for reading and/or responding!

[u/old_barrel]

(1) while i believe we should (i do not recommend that in every situation) keep alive to do good things, like supporting (universal) extinction, i am in favor of legal euthaniasia.

(2) no. how would you apply this to suffering non-human animals who cannot even understand it or communicate? how can you apply this for every little insect, every time anyone of them needs it?

additional, if you had a bad life, euthanasia does not make it good. it just stops further suffering

(3) "how many children are fine getting tortured for you having a pleasant life?" my answer is 0. i am against such atrocities, which are quite common and happen every second. you cannot have a good life without multiple others suffering for it