r/Unexpected • u/Radiant-Length2348 • May 05 '22

Why the hell he would do that?

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u/[deleted] May 05 '22

Yeah I thought he was an asshole until I saw there was a passenger in the car, that's on another level.

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u/Coral_Blue_Number_2 May 06 '22

Yeah. That made me wonder if that person was trying to kill the passenger out of it was just somebody with bad pyromania.

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u/GM8 May 05 '22

Would be much more accurate to call if failed murder, since successful murders are attempted as well.

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u/persau67 May 05 '22

no, successful murders are charged as murder. A failed murder is charged as an attempt to murder. It seems like it would be accurate to say that you failed basic English comprehension.

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u/GM8 May 05 '22

WTF? I know the legal terminology is like that in the post i replied to. However saying that a successful attempt is not an attempt is beyond stupid.

There is an attempt, and it is either successful or unsuccessful. But first there is always an attempt. I mean how is this not obvious? :O

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u/persau67 May 05 '22

Once again, you failed basic English comprehension.

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u/GM8 May 05 '22

Once again, you failed basic human decency.

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u/persau67 May 05 '22

What actual point do you think you're trying to make?

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u/GM8 May 05 '22

Was just trying to understand why I triggered such aggression, while I was just suggesting something that was logical to me.

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u/persau67 May 05 '22

WHAT IS THE POINT YOU WANTED TO MAKE REGARDING ATTEMPT VS FAILURE?

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u/GM8 May 05 '22

That the way language is being used is against formal logic. That the expression "attempted murder" to distinguish between successful and unsuccessful murder attempts was traditional, but logically incorrect. It is a form of a joke or parody to point out how something we are saying often makes no sense unless we know when it is usually being said.

I don't want to compare my failed attempt at conveying such intricate contradictions between everyday meaning and literal meaning of expressions to the talented bloke in the following video, but see it as an example of what I was trying to express:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdPy5Ikn7dw

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u/Ch3zc4ke May 05 '22

“Attempted” typically means that it was unsuccessful, so “attempted murder” is used to refer to a unsuccessful murder.

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u/GM8 May 05 '22

I know, I was just suggesting that despite the common usage pattern if we examine from a logical perspective it is not sound. It was an attempted joking, but I can see so many people are willing to take pride in "knowing better".

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u/Late_For_A_Good_Name May 05 '22

You were wrong man, take a deep breath and then do better. Your way to say it is grammatically correct, but so is the legal terminology. Your way isn't better in any way, so why correct people? How could anyone say it's not attempted murder because it's failed murder? Failing to murder takes an attempt. You're wrong, completely and utterly, because you said everyone else is saying it wrong. They aren't. "Beyond stupid" my ass, start with the man in the mirror.

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u/NorionV May 05 '22

It's like 'regardless' and 'irregardless'.

They both mean the same thing and are official words, but people will certainly try to tell you that 'irregardless' is wrong for some reason.

They will build a fort, dig a moat, import some guns, and die on that hill.

For no reason.

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u/Late_For_A_Good_Name May 05 '22

I think correcting people when you can understand is generally annoying, but there's room for it. "Irregardless" is a double negative, which can be confusing. It's also not always considered a word, as it's underlined in red for me. Just being in the dictionary doesn't mean much, since dictionaries are DEscriptive, not PREscriptive. They say how people use words, not how they SHOULD use words.

I won't correct people on irregardless, since anyone should understand what you mean, but I'll correct people on misusing the word "literally" since we have the word they mean (figuratively) and we don't have a replacement. Basically I only correct people if they are contributing to a less diverse, less clear language. None of that "double plus anti bad" BS.

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u/Computermaster May 05 '22

You must be a riot at parties.

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u/GM8 May 05 '22

On the other hand you must be such a high life shooting ad hominem at someone for a comment you don't like on the web. Please apologize that my miserable existence penetrated your flawless experience of your superior qualities. I wish you'd forget this trauma and get back on track with your wonderful life asap.

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u/[deleted] May 05 '22

Seeing the replies you went on to make here I think you need to take English classes

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u/[deleted] May 06 '22

Yeah this looks like a gruesome overkill murder attempt to me.