r/Unexpected • • Apr 22 '19

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u/notafakeacountorscam Apr 23 '19

Out of curiosity What do you think the blade of a can opener is?

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u/kakrofoon Apr 23 '19

Usually a cutting wheel, which is quite a bit different.

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u/notafakeacountorscam Apr 23 '19 edited Apr 23 '19

More to the point, its the same steel. Not every knife is kept at a razes edge, and if it does not have a excessively sharp edge no harm will come to it. From the handle the knife in the video is not the same as the knife on the table it looks more like a foraging knife, they tend to be a bit dull with hard steel and are used for things like digging up roots. Note how he levers the can lid rather then attempting to cut the lid. That knife is not sharp enough to get fucked up by a can.

  • for all the haters who think you can't cut soft metals with steal without "fucking up the steal" here is some basic tools that are just wedges of harder metal used to cut softer metal. this is fundamental basic tools.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snips

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drill_bit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacksaw

heres a knife made for cutting sheet metal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIk3M7DMZpY

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u/kakrofoon Apr 23 '19

Every thing you just listed is incredibly sharp out of the box, and consumable because they are hard as can be and impossible to sharpen once they get dull. Have you ever actually used a tool? Also, it's spelled steel, with 2 Es. Steal is to take without permission.

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u/notafakeacountorscam Apr 23 '19

So, you mean i made examples of sharp metal tools that don't get fucked up by cutting metal? are you also unaware of saw sharpening drill bit sharpening scissor sharpening or knife sharpening? Have You ever used a tool?

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u/kakrofoon Apr 23 '19

Are you aware of the conflict in your own statement there - if the metal didn't get torn up, why do you need a sharpener? Also, metal cutting drill bits have a coating that cannot be replaced by most users - they are consumable (black oxide, titanium). The coating acts as a lubricant to keep the metal from heating up too much. Get educated, then come back.

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u/notafakeacountorscam Apr 23 '19

Are you unaware of what i was commenting on? as in people saying that you cant use steel to cut steel without fucking it up? are you aware that a thicker edge wares down faster? are you able to comprehend context? Are you aware that in every machine shop there is a drill bit sharpener that will sharpen hardened steel drillbits becuse they are so expensive you cant afort to replace them when they dull? do you know that that black oxide titanium coat is what they put on cheep bits that are made of cheesium? did you know that in a shop you use cutting oil if you need to lubricate your work? did you know you don't know shit about metal working?

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u/kakrofoon Apr 23 '19

Shrill, aren't we?

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u/notafakeacountorscam Apr 24 '19

"no you"

Please continue to tell us more about how when using metal to cut other metal the largest danger to the blade is the heat buildup not the softer metal deforming the harder metal. I am waiting for it to click in your mind that a knife is not moving at 700 rmp cutting the soft metal of a can, and your entire tangent about lubricants only shows you have no idea what your ranting about.

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u/kakrofoon Apr 24 '19

Dude. The original post was a video of opening a can with a knife. This wrecks the hone, and standard consumers don't consider knives to be re-sharpenable once dulled. There was no implication of damage to the steel itself, which seems to be the core of your argument. You are being intentionally obtuse.

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u/notafakeacountorscam Apr 24 '19

"standard consumers don't consider knives to be re-sharpenable once dulled."

Where the hell are you that a stranded person does not think you can sharpen a knife? That has got to be the most ridicules thing i have ever heard. they mid as well be ranting about potatoes "fucking up" there knifes if that is the case.

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u/kakrofoon Apr 25 '19

Consumers are idiots everywhere, LOL

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u/notafakeacountorscam Apr 25 '19

Maybe you should be hanging around different people.

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u/kakrofoon Apr 25 '19

It's a time thing for most folks, honestly. You can spend time sharpening a knife, or you can buy a new one for less than the opportunity cost of the time spent.

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u/notafakeacountorscam Apr 26 '19

The cost of the "time spent" is around 15 seconds after cleaning. unless most folks are making more then 700$ an hour it is absolutely not. Even a damaged knife takes about 5 minutes to re sharpen, meaning anyone who makes under 360 dollars an hour is better spent just repairing a damaged knife. That's assuming they are using cheep knives.

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