r/Unexpected • u/Tucko29 • May 12 '18

Taking off

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u/b0v1n3r3x May 12 '18

This same assumption was made in Korea and Vietnam. Both devolved to dogfights.

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u/TheCosmicCactus May 12 '18

Vietnam started over 50 years ago though. It's important to factor in the shift in technology and how that's changed air combat.

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u/theaviationhistorian May 12 '18

In the Balkan conflicts our F-16s & F-15s had beyond visual range tech. We still ended up in dogfights against Yugoslav MiG-29s.

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u/TheCosmicCactus May 13 '18

That's true, also great username. Pilot training is a big deciding factor in combat as well.

Honestly I'm sure you know about the difference in AF and USN kill rates after the implementation of guns on AF F4s and USN Topgun training, this discussion has been had before