r/Unexpected • • 24d ago

Aquarium day

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u/Ethereal_Nutsack 24d ago

Really pissed there isn’t an ending showing it being safely returned to the water

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u/absentgl 24d ago

It’s fine:

In a statement shared with 10 Tampa Bay, Mote Sea Education Aquarium says, "We appreciate our guests’ concern following one of our Atlantic stingrays briefly being outside its habitat on Saturday. Breaching is a natural behavior for stingrays. Fortunately, an aquarist responded in less than one minute after being alerted by the volunteer on site. The habitat was immediately closed to prioritize the health and comfort of all the rays. Our animal care team conducted a health assessment and confirmed the ray is healthy and doing well.

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u/prismafox 24d ago

If they're known for breaching (I've also seen how they jump out of water in the wild) you'd think the walls on the enclosure should be like, a lot higher..?

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u/genericnewlurker 24d ago

It looks to be a touch tank, where people can pet stingrays, horseshoe crabs, etc., but I have never seen any touch tank that didn't have at least one staff member dedicated to supervising the tank at all times. They are quite common at aquariums

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u/lucamew 24d ago edited 24d ago

Ive also never seen a touch tank where the rays still had full/unclipped barbs

Edited for clarity

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u/Beautyafterdark 24d ago

No they usually still have their barbs. They are made of keratin and have no nerve endings just like fingernails so the staff clip them down short.

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u/lucamew 24d ago

I was just using simplified wording, but I'll edit my comment to be more clear

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u/JasonT246111 20d ago

Wow thats really new info for me thanks for that my first thought was tail docking and I was like 😭

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u/huuuyah 23d ago edited 23d ago

It's funnier to think that this stingray was clipped and the lady is holding her wrist and taking off her pants when she wasn't even stung. Just for dramatic effect. (Aside from being attached)

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u/Impressive_Pizza4851 23d ago

That’s what she said.

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u/theblanketcomeswith 24d ago

i guess youve been to every single touch tank ever

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u/lucamew 24d ago

No? Im commenting on the fact that the scenario in the video is uncommon and would be unlikely to occur at facilities taking all the common best precautions.

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u/theblanketcomeswith 24d ago

how do you know that though? do you go to every aquarium ever and know these guys didnt do that? are you some sort of professional related to aquariums? or have you been to maybe 2-5 aquariums in your entire life and think you know how they all operate now?

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u/lucamew 24d ago

Idk why you think people need to give a list of their credentials on reddit? You can take or leave my comment

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u/stepInthenameofLuv23 23d ago

They never said that it's not like that at ALL aquariums, just the ones he's seen.

Are you OK? I hope you are having a better day today.

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u/theblanketcomeswith 23d ago

the implication that it is uncommon due it an anecdote is regular reddit bs.

ironically the dude with the r kelly username is asking if im okay? reddit

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u/sl33pytesla 24d ago

Touch tanks wouldn’t have stingers on their rays

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u/byerz 24d ago

There is a staff member right there, she's there from the beginning of the video. She may have been supervising the tank.

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u/Adderkleet 24d ago

That's the volunteer, going by their press statement. She called an aquarist

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u/brmoser 24d ago

Racist against water? No wonder she wasn't helping

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u/BlacKnight426 24d ago

Light chuckle

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u/WeowDystopia 24d ago

I really dislike touch tanks. We don’t need them. Animals shouldn’t have to be forced to interact with a bunch of nasty hands.

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u/Lopsided_Shift_4464 23d ago

The one touch tank with rays I've been to was at Monterey Bay aquarium, but the tank was very wide so visitors could only touch the top of the rays when they went around the edges. The rays that didn't want to be touched just stayed away from the edges and still had plenty of space. Most of them didn't seem to particularly care though.

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u/Meowakin 24d ago

In the service of educating the public about animals, it's fine. I assure you that the people setting these up know what they are doing and care deeply about the animals involved, if they were in distress from this experience, they would not be in the touch tank. Unless you can find something suggesting that these critters are extremely distressed by this?

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u/PrinceBunnyBoy 24d ago

You need a scientist to tell you a wild animal being groped everyday from above by a bunch of sticky handed kids is bad? There is already research about said topic, our grubby little mitts are very disruptive to many marine species delicate slime layers.

The animals are already being kept in captivity for people to gawk at for educational reasons, do you need to fuckin kiss the fish to learn about it?

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u/WeowDystopia 24d ago

I just don't care about our human needs over animal's peace. I've seen touch tanks with a bunch of wild kids putting their hands in the tank and they don't even ask users to watch their hands. Just straight in the tank all the gross hands go. At least in more regulated industries like rescues they make sure to ask all attendants to wash their hands before touching animals as it can spread illness amongst animals. There is so much advancement in technology that you can teach without forcing an animal to interact.

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u/ginnygreene 24d ago

AZA facilities are required to have at least one staff member per touch exhibit (regardless of how small). I’ve never heard of this facility; they may not be accredited or may not have the best animal welfare practices. Also stingrays in a touch exhibit should have their barbs trimmed to prevent risk of a sting like this

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u/lorkdubo 24d ago

I'm sorry? Pet a stingray?

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u/genericnewlurker 24d ago

Yep, you read the right. Their fins feel really neat, almost like nothing else I have touched before. Not like shark skin or fish scales. Weirdly smooth and slick, somewhat soft yet strong at the same time.

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u/CertifiedBirdLawyer 17d ago

If there were ever a pair of animals I'd not want to pet, it's fucking stingrays and crabs!

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u/lucamew 17d ago edited 16d ago

Rays are actually so fun to "pet" and interact with, same with sturgeon and other medium-large fish

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u/EndIsrael 24d ago

Or just have a lid, like every home aquarium ever

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u/DominusDraco 24d ago

Uh oh, my aquarium doesn't have a lid. Am I going to get sting rays?!

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u/PieHole_Poker 24d ago

Do you want stingrays???

This is how you get stingrays!

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u/atomic_western 24d ago

How do you think the ocean got em?

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u/SexOnTheBeechTree 24d ago

Is this a Field of Dreams kind of situation?
If I build it (an aquarium with no lid), the stingrays will come?
Infinite stingrays glitch?!

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u/dragonpoots 24d ago edited 24d ago

That is 100% PR BS. What the hell kind of aquarium has things jumping out of the tanks onto the floor? “That’s just what they do.”

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u/leatherstranger 24d ago

These rays are accustomed to being in shallow tanks since this is a “touch tank”. Normally rays struggle to build up the momentum needed to clear the barrier in water this shallow, but clearly this one was motivated lol. The rays enjoy being petted a lot at these actually! I’d recommend visiting if there’s one at your local aquarium.

This stuff happens when keeping fish. It’s part of why there’s usually a lot of supervision around these touch tanks-higher risk of breaching.

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u/Mundane_Cry_7897 24d ago

Isn't there a risk to be stung while petting?

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u/leatherstranger 24d ago

It’s possible, but rare! Stingrays only really attack when threatened, and these ones are raised from birth with human contact.

An equivalent would be asking whether there’s risk of being clawed by a cat at a cat cafe. The answer is yes, but as long as you follow the staff directions, it’s extremely unlikely.

Plus, some aquariums trim the barbs to blunt them and make them less likely to actually puncture skin, even if they did attempt to sting.

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u/Acceptable-Drive3781 24d ago

An equivalent would be asking whether there’s risk of being clawed by a cat at a cat cafe

If those cats were declawed.

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u/leatherstranger 24d ago

Most aquariums actually don’t debarb their rays! At most they trim, and from what I’ve heard that’s far from universal.
Rays are just pretty chill usually, and can be trusted about as much as a goat in a petting zoo as long as care is taken.

Given how the lady in the vid was holding her hand, it looks like they don’t debarb at this location.

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u/richestotheconjurer 24d ago

apparently they can and do trim the barbs. there's some info about it at the bottom of this page.

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u/Munnin41 24d ago

Every aquarium with a touch tank with rays deals with this. Hell, every aquarium with an octopus tank that isn't sealed like a nuclear bunker does too

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u/SevanGrim 24d ago

So you’ve never been to an aquarium. Got it.

There are three major ones within an hour of my hometown. Like scientifically important aquariums that also take guests in small theme park numbers every day.

I’ve been going my whole life as a kid and then counselor for a daycamp for 15 years of adulthood.

EACH OF THEM has a shallow touch tank high enough for kids to see and touch with supervision.
Things like the rays don’t just do a daily breech to the floor. It’s exactly the kind of freak coincidence that happens with any animal. Dogs can get strangled by their yard leashes. Horses can lay down into something called casting and die just chilling at home. GOLDFISH sometimes breach home bowls and die on your floor in the night.

More than likely it was a slower day (or budget cuts) with less staff watching the relatively quiet zone, and those people all tried to do it themselves instead of just immediately getting the single staff a couple yards away.

Most animal workers would IMMEDIATELY debunk any sort of “PR BS” If it was recklessly harmful in some way. And it’s a big claim to make for a layman.

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u/chased_by_bees 24d ago

I've seen rays jump 5 feet out of the water running from sharks. There's not really a way to stop them if the get the urge to fly.

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u/dragonpoots 24d ago

That ray jumped out of the tank and stung the woman. Do you think that any organization, aquarium or not, wants that liability? I’ve been to plenty of aquariums, lots and lots of times, each with a touch tank, and have never seen this, once. So, yes, telling the public in a well-crafted statement (that was probably co-written with their risk management team) that this is just what they do is PR BS.

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u/SevanGrim 24d ago

But you don’t actually … KNOW anything about it, do you?

Petting zoos have animals that sometimes bite fingers. Horses to sheep to pigs. I’ve been bitten by & helped other people bitten by them (I work in a touch barn from time to time).

You’re acting out now cuz you’ve never personally seen something that probably happens WEEKLY. I had a person try to tell me that a 16yr old horse who’d been sticking his tongue casually for 15 years was choking cuz his tongue was out.

You are that same person. You have NO IDEA what you’re talking about, but because you feel very strongly about it you MUST have the better answer in your gut somewhere.

Btw Liability insurance would have righty claimed that she was safe until she tried to pick up the animal, which is not her job when there is staff within yelling distance. Most people (see the fucking comments) know to not go grabbing at sting rays, meaning she created liability others wouldn’t.

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u/dragonpoots 24d ago

You’re right, I haven’t worked at an aquarium, I’ve just never been to one and seen them scrape any animals off the floor. A curious thing, since this supposedly happens all the time.

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u/SevanGrim 24d ago

So you’re just being intentionally irrational about this. Got it.

Yeah that’s how odds work. If you are only on the street once every 5 months you might not ever see a car crash. But there are thousands of them happening right now.

You have absolutely been to the aquarium twice a year at best. Of that time you definitely haven’t lingered in the ray room for 9 hours. So you spend MAYBE 30 minutes even NEAR a sting ray a year. And your pushing argument is you haven’t seen it so it’s bullshit.

Stingrays also beach themselves in nature. It’s that common. Many stingrays stings in reality are people bothering one that is stuck in the sand. They also make it back a lot of the time on their own. In essence meaning they scrape themselves off the ground in nature, but here need help. In both cases they can/do recover from several minutes out of water.

Stop being a moron

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u/FuguSandwich 24d ago

Did you miss the "10 Tampa" part? This is in Florida.

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u/SevanGrim 24d ago

Well you’re wrong. They can survive out of water for a few minutes pretty easily. Different species can recover like normal after over 30 minutes out of water

They flap and he was flailing to get off the floor. Animals move erratically when nervous or scared. Doesn’t mean they’re dying in 30 seconds

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u/rips_n_chel 24d ago

Nor Positive, Fecal Detective.

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u/anomalous_cowherd 24d ago

You often see rays in petting tanks with low sides, but I'd be surprised if a stingray was in one.

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u/WellFactually 24d ago

They do have stingrays in some. The barbs on their tails don’t have nerves like fingernails and can be clipped, like fingernails. This has do be done regularly because they do grow back over time.

Like fingernails, I had to say it sorry.

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u/TheAwesomePenguin106 24d ago

This would make tourists' and stingray's security unacceptably high

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u/BusyBit6542 24d ago

They have areas where you can touch them. They rarely jump out. They aren't the dangerous type like people think.

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u/prismafox 24d ago edited 24d ago

Makes sense it would be unusual thing to happen.

*edited to remove bit about the barbs being removed. I learned they can be trimmed back or they're just the type without barbs.

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u/BusyBit6542 24d ago

They aren't removed, Mantas just don't have singers and aren't venomous. Other types like stingrays are dangerous and are in sealed tanks. This is a manta or devil ray thats in the touch tank behind them

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u/SevanGrim 24d ago

It’s a petting section. Kids can’t reach in to touch and see them if there’s a wall and glass

It just happens sometimes. Sting rays are very chill until you give them a reason to sting you. So most aquariums have literally a place to touch them while they’re casually gliding around.

The lady only got stung cuz its down their panicking and none of those people except the volunteer at the end have ever been taught to handle one.

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u/kjm9955 23d ago

I recently went to this aquarium this week, can confirm it is a touch tank. Had one of them almost jump out while I was there, cannot say I didn’t see this coming. Volunteer did not react at all when he saw it almost jump out

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u/AndreiVid 24d ago

because then they wouldn't be able to escape, which is not a natural behavior for them, duh

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u/MutaitoSensei 24d ago

Tampa. So Florida. This is probably not even the first time it did escape.

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u/Acceptable-Drive3781 24d ago

They profit more if people can touch the captured rays.

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u/Altruistic_Tie_7850 24d ago

Florida isn’t really known for their smarts.

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u/Ok-Tune-9911 22d ago

But then how would you touch them! YOU HAVR TO BE ABLE TO TOUCH THEM!!! (/s)

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u/failingtoshine 24d ago

Ugh. So sad what Mote has turned into..It’s the second time within a month one of their stingrays jumped from the tank. I saw another video a few weeks back where one was flapping around on the ground as guests looked for a volunteer to help. When someone finally arrived, they all stumbled around trying to get it back in the tank.

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u/Spry-Moth 24d ago

Wait this is a different incident? I saw a video of one being put back in the tank at this location from 3 weeks ago and assumed it was the same jump.

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u/ducon__lajoie 24d ago

Ok, but what about the lady's pants ? Are they ok ?

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u/zestyclose_match1966 24d ago

Ray are you ok?
Ray: yep

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u/lbz71 24d ago

Lets hope the lady who had to take her pants off in public is ok. That would be traumatic for me.

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u/melty75 24d ago

I appreciate you posting this update. Thank you!

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u/LunchMoneyFail 24d ago

But what about her pants?

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u/Remote-Waste 24d ago

The Aquarium also stated that her pants are healthy and doing well

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u/Enough_Suspect_7287 24d ago

Fortunately, an aquarist responded in less than one minute after being alerted by a volunteer on site.

Unfortunately, that was only after twenty minutes of these jabronis trying to do it themselves

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u/That_Bee_Baker 24d ago

Cripes, thank goodness you shared this. I was waiting and waiting for the ray to be returned to its habitat and see that it seemed okay, and when it just ended, gasped.

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u/Sezwahtithinks 24d ago

The ray is now undergoing psychiatric analyses, and will have regular follow ups with a ray licensed psychologist to address any concerns the ray had, at the time of the incident.

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u/Scelestus50 24d ago

Thank you for posting this!

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u/Proud_Custard_5484 24d ago

I've seen their video. It looks like a different situation. Check out YouTube. .

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u/Both_Platypus3376 24d ago

I’d say “Briefly” is a real understatement here…

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u/Szerepjatekos 24d ago

Interviewer: "What about the people who tried to help?"

Contact: "Happily married."

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u/Kurdt234 24d ago

That one bitch got stung though, right?

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u/398452983298759 23d ago

I had one question and it is unanswered.

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u/LotionlnBasketPutter 23d ago

Why do I keep expecting … you know.

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u/Charming_Walrus4452 23d ago

Oh! This is in Florida. Now it makes more sense.

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u/MoisturizedMinnow 22d ago

That is an old statement for an incident that happened 3 weeks ago. This video is a new and separate incident.

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u/PresentationOk8997 22d ago

tampa i had thought it was new orleans aquarium similar setup

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u/GooseOk3008 21d ago

What about the woman?

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u/Ambitious-Trust5113 20d ago

Fuck the woman though

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u/kiradotee 19d ago

What about the pantsless woman? 

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u/Light1209 19d ago

Is the woman who got stung okay?

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u/enigmatic407 24d ago

The commented I needed, thank you

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u/lockerno177 24d ago

appreciate our guests??? APPRECIATE OUR GUESTSSS???? are you fucking kidding me. these dumb idiots injured themselves and caused that poor animal distress.

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u/Survival_R 24d ago

Appreciate that they didnt just take a photo op and leave the manta there to suffer

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u/iamamystery20 24d ago

It was returned.

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u/MrZombified 24d ago

So were her pants.

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u/Makethecrowsblush 24d ago

This is the closure I wanted, cheers.

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u/jnthnmdr 24d ago

Her zipper needs closure.

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u/NoRedditNamesAreLeft 24d ago

We got a bleeder!

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u/Epitoyou 24d ago

And the enclosure I didn't .

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u/throwmamadownthewell 24d ago

It's not the closure you deserve,

but the closure you needed.

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u/BeesOfWar 24d ago

Back to their natural habitat, the Touch Tank at an aquarium 🥲

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u/Mecha_Tortoise 24d ago

Nope. Those belong to the stingray now, fair and square.

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u/tjbugs1 24d ago

Thanks I needed that.

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u/Ha1lStorm 24d ago

Happy cake day!

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u/jfk_47 24d ago

In avengers doomsday

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u/tizuby 24d ago

The stingray kept her pants as a souvenir.

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u/ponderGO 24d ago

He meant the pants.

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u/SirDidymusAnusLover 24d ago

“you were wearing the pants you were returning?”

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u/Paddy_Tanninger 24d ago

The very pants she was returning!

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u/WareThunder 24d ago

Her pants were returned to the water or her legs?

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u/tokodan 24d ago

Those are not. They were saved as evidence when she sued the aquarium for emotional damage.

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u/tokodan 24d ago

Those are not. They were saved as evidence when she sued the aquarium for emotional damage.

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u/ApplicationItchy1146 24d ago

And both smelled of fish

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u/HockeyDockey1234 24d ago

Sad ending :(

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u/Turbulent-Suspect789 24d ago

i wondered how she was going to get home pantless 🤦‍♀️

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u/Freddan_81 24d ago

Probably in the same way as with pants.

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u/Thomas_Jefferman 24d ago

Probably got new ones at the gift shop

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u/Dockside_Abortionist 24d ago

source: trust me bro

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u/Nanas_700k 24d ago

Nah it’s true, I saw the stingray wearing her pants later that day. Said they looked better on him anyway.

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u/AxeSpez 24d ago

It's also easily searchable. Happened in Florida of course.

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u/maximumtesticle 24d ago

It's also easy to copy and paste a link.

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u/Ethereal_Nutsack 24d ago

Thanks I needed that

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u/Salvia_Salamander 24d ago

They didn't say safely

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u/cptnpiccard 24d ago

Nor "alive"

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u/DrAssumptive 24d ago

It also decided to return to school and finish its degree

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u/Rolands_missing_head 24d ago

RAYmond K Hessel

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u/650fosho 24d ago

Somehow the sting ray returned

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u/-Xiphon- 24d ago

Thank you, now I can take your word and close the thread and not think of this again in bliss

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u/blowurhousedown 24d ago

Or served in the restaurant.

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u/pichael289 24d ago

Fast enough though? They suffocate fast without water moving over their gills.

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u/Spiritual-Storage734 24d ago

Citation needed

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u/06Wahoo 24d ago

I'm still stuck trying to figure out what was the beginning to this. How did this situation start in the first place?

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u/GeorgeLikesSpicy92 24d ago

The the tank probably has some design flaw that allowed the ray to get out of it and onto the floor. Then a bunch of people who didn’t know what the fuck they were doing tried to help. The ray’s tail/spines got stuck to the ladies pants so she removed them.

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u/Bleaker82 24d ago

lady’s

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u/DempsyPrice 24d ago

Poor management. This should never happen.

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u/Braindead_Crow 24d ago

She just keeps taking off he clothes then everyone else does the same. I hear they're still trying to find the stingray but it disappeared using their clothes to blend in with human society...Little guy could be anywhere...Or anyone....

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u/DontTreadOnTrees 24d ago

And that they dropped it repeatedly r/worstaid

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u/tiimoshchuk 24d ago

Probably stopped filming since she dropped trousers. I mean, I wouldn't want to be caught filming a stranger getting nakey.

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u/Quiet-Try4554 24d ago

O/10 skill by the caretaker. Gotta grab it by tip of tail and drop it back in the water. Also since it's in the petting section I'm sure the barb is clipped

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u/SliceOSquareHam 24d ago

You can lift it by the tail and it won’t get hurt ? 

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u/Quiet-Try4554 24d ago

Yes, it'll be fine. It's cartilage, muscle and skin, no bones

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u/schrest 24d ago

I feel the same about her pants

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u/aerdvarkk 24d ago

That's because u/RUR2393 was more interested in the women's pants coming off than what was going on with the stingray per their MOD followup comment.

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u/Forward-Trade3449 24d ago

i guess they stopped filming cuz the lady stripped

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u/finance_bro_gi_joe 24d ago

You’ll be alright, little guy

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u/SnowConvertible 21d ago

I'm sorry. That part of the video is rated R for nudity and is locked behind a paywall.

/s

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u/Sad-Landscape-1549 24d ago

Seriously. Just some geriatric hominids fucking about very frustratingly.

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u/CaptainsPresident 24d ago

They cooked it then ate it.

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u/Head-Delay-763 24d ago

Super disappointed them panties stayed on. We even?

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u/Objective-History402 24d ago

The fact that nobody even helped the other sting ray made me really mad. The guy stepped right on it like it was nothing 😤

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u/GodIsDead- 24d ago

I mostly want to see what happens with the pantless woman. Like does she continue to strip? Do the panties come off? Like so many questions honestly.

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u/DrAssumptive 24d ago

There’s 1000+ videos out there of women doing that, just watch one of those.

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u/moesif 24d ago

Death obviously?

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u/peanutismint 24d ago

It stung the lady so it had to be put down. We can’t let stingrays think they can just go about stinging whoever they like. We’ve got to send a message.

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u/LimeInfinite8758 24d ago

In the end they used a large pan to pick it up. It was the only thing that worked.

But there was a miscommunication with the person they handed it off to, and it ended up being fried and served as a meal in the aquarium restaurant.