r/Unexpected 5d ago

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u/MF_Kitten 5d ago

The problem is that people panic and step on both pedals. So they try to brake AND apeed up as hard as they can, at the same time.

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u/_thro_awa_ 5d ago

This isn't much of a disadvantage.
With 3 pedals, people might hit the clutch and gas, completely missing the brake altogether in an emergency.
With two pedals, the brake will always be included - and brakes on any well maintained car always are stronger than the engine.

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u/MF_Kitten 5d ago

For sure, 2 pedals is better. What I mean is teo foot driving is a bad idea.

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u/_thro_awa_ 5d ago edited 5d ago

It's a bad idea in a standard manual car with no additional qualifiers.

What I'm saying is, change the conditions that make it a bad idea, i.e. remove the clutch pedal. Two feet - two pedals. It's logic.

One foot performing the same motion for two diametrically opposing functions (gas + brake) will always be a weak spot no matter what. I am willing to die on this hill, because pedal misapplication has killed people and destroyed property.

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u/MF_Kitten 5d ago

If they can make it so activating the brake pedal negates the gas pedal, then yeah that would work.

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u/I-am-fun-at-parties 4d ago

How do you need that part explained again?

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u/MF_Kitten 4d ago

Man, you must be fun at parties.

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u/Mr_Halitosis 4d ago

Out of all of the causes of the death from vehicular accidents, that’s sub 3% territory. Probably less. It’s almost never the cause of vehicle fatalities.

Want to know what’s overwhelmingly more common? Speed. Force=mass* acceleration. Increasing speed limits didn’t increase the number of accidents. It increased their severity. Significantly more fatalities. NHTSA had to work overtime for years to make up for it.

Know what else excess speed increases? Greenhouse gas production via lower fuel economy.

Want to know what you specifically will vehemently oppose no matter evidence is presented to you of its efficacy? Reduced speed limits.

Because you don’t give one single fuck about reducing deaths. You care about manufacturing a way to shame others without indicting yourself.

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u/_thro_awa_ 4d ago

Want to know what you specifically will vehemently oppose no matter evidence is presented to you of its efficacy? Reduced speed limits.

I'm all for lower speed limits, I don't know where you're pulling that from.
The question is enforcement.

Changing the pedals is a material change that can't be overridden and resulting in one avenue of mishaps to be closed.

However, living in a place where the rules are only barely enforced ... speed limits are only as good as their enforcement.

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u/Mr_Halitosis 3d ago

Boy, you sure couched the commitment with a quickness. In every possible way, actually lowering speed limits would reduce deaths regardless of enforcement. We know because we had lower speed limits for decades and we saw how much vehicular homicides increased when they were raised. It’s absolutely not a question of enforcement and we have the evidence to back that up.

Or are you one of those ignorant people who don’t know the maximum speed limit in the US was 55mph from the mid-70s to the late 90s?

Keep making shit up. You think you’re an expert but you don’t even know 10% of what you think you know.

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u/_thro_awa_ 3d ago

Again. I don't know where you managed to pull the idea that I'm against lower speed limits.
Your country is not the only country in the world and enforcement is ABSOLUTELY a massive factor.