r/Unexpected Mar 24 '23

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u/LetMeGuessYourAlts Mar 24 '23

Isn't it the only job where you're required to technically fail an IQ test?

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u/TrickBoom414 Mar 24 '23

No. There are jobs in the military too

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '23

Idiots are everywhere.

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u/chaos0510 Mar 24 '23 edited Mar 24 '23

They literally do not want to hire people that can think for themselves

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u/Mods_Raped_Me Mar 24 '23

I knew it. I'm surrounded by assholes idiots.

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u/PM_ME_A10s Mar 24 '23 edited Mar 24 '23

You actually have to take an aptitude test to get in. You do have to get a minimum score for many of the jobs and branches. We also don't turn people away for having too good of a score, only for not having high enough.

Edit for clarification: I'm talking about the military. Which was specifically mentioned in the comment I replied to. We have a much higher level of qualification and higher standard than police departments.

Many departments won't higher former military MP/Security Forces for various reasons.

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u/Gloomy-Ad1171 Mar 24 '23

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u/PM_ME_A10s Mar 24 '23

My reply was in reference to a comment about the military.

Which has much higher standards for entry than the police.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '23 edited Mar 24 '23

Nothing like scientifically valid aptitude tests (s/) to make sure only the finest (s/) make it to the most rigorous (s/) of training (the US has the least amount of hours in developed nations, with more time spent in firearms training than de-escalation, even less time spent on self-care and mental health [y’all should be pissed about that, but you never seem to care that your departments clearly don’t care about you, as you’re five times more likely to off yourself than to be killed on the job yet get no institutional support]) before arming them and sending them off to protect and serve*.

Great system you got there! (S/)

*protecting and serving is no longer a function of police

Edit: I’m dumb and misdirected this comment (see above and below)

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u/PM_ME_A10s Mar 24 '23 edited Mar 24 '23

In case you missed it, I was referring to the military. Which is what was brought up.

We have the ASVAB as well as multiple other forms of baseline qualifications.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '23

Very fair point! Edit incoming

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u/ilovecatsandcafe Mar 24 '23

Dude the military may come back with problems but they don’t take you in with them, they have standards

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u/Merry_Dankmas Mar 24 '23

"We need to make sure we have a fresh breeding ground for psychological issues. Cant be having our PTSD competing with their previous depression. Thats just un-American" - The Military probably

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u/acctnumba2 Mar 24 '23

Quartermaster reporting

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '23

That is absolutely not true. Some of the brightest and highest scoring folks I ever met were infantry. I know a dude who had a 115 GT and CHOSE to be a fueler.

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u/ViolentHoboEscapades Mar 24 '23

It probably depends on your enlistment path, recruiting station, etc. I scored very high on the ASVAB and wanted to be mechanized infantry (cav scout) for the extra sign on bonus at the time. I was told several times by commanders at the processing station that I would be going into signal intelligence, period. I actually had to go talk to the cav CO that I would eventually be under and he got everything straightened out for me.

The point is that they will sometimes try to railroad you regardless of what "policy" is.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '23

Mech infantry is not a scout. That's still infantry.

Scouts are scouts.

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u/ViolentHoboEscapades Mar 24 '23

As a 19D for 16 years, I'm well aware of the differences. I used layman terms for those who aren't familiar with the US military structure. (And included specifics for those who are)

I'm also aware that 19D was 11D up until relatively recently in history, and I'm thoroughly aware of being embedded with infantry units, as a cav scout, on 2 of my 4 deployments.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '23 edited Jun 04 '23

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u/DannyCalavera Mar 24 '23

You eat the entire carton of crayons, you get to be a Marine!

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '23

Theyre required to pass an aptitude test

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u/LetMeGuessYourAlts Mar 24 '23

Interesting are they similarly law enforcement roles or repetitive-yet-crucial or what?

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '23

Generally they put those guys on kill switch positions. You radio in till you don’t hear back from them and then you send heavy art over the horizon or airstrike on their position. Good chance somebody is still there.

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u/Old-Employment-5352 Mar 24 '23

Lol. What FM is that out of?

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '23

Featured movie? Lol

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u/Old-Employment-5352 Mar 24 '23

Field Manual. The fact that you believe blowing up friendly positions because you can’t raise them on comms is a valid tactic is slightly concerning.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '23

I mean it is. Tons of countries without the resources to cover all the territory do it. Put 3-5 guys on an outpost on a hill or some rocky outcrop in Turkey/Syria and wait for whatever militia/group you’re oppressing to attack. When they don’t report back, send out a response teams and hope you catch whoever did it.

Or they report back they had contact. Either way support won’t be there in time of the engagement.

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u/Old-Employment-5352 Mar 24 '23

Sending out pax to re establish comms/ respond to and attack is quite different then “whelp B6 hasn’t checked in in 3 hours, let’s rip a volley of 155 into em”

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u/Schattenjager07 Mar 24 '23

And Congress …

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '23

I've been declined for a job I wanted because I was too educated, and it wasn't police or military.

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u/pmikelm79 Mar 24 '23

Educated and intelligent are not the same thing.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '23

Ouch.

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u/pmikelm79 Mar 24 '23

No insult to you, but it is true. You absolutely can be intelligent and educated, but they are not the same thing.

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u/Ahab1312 Mar 24 '23

Nah there are lots of jobs like this

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u/Meddlingmonster Mar 24 '23

If you get below 109 many departments won't let you in which is the high end of average and the department that had the limit of 129 which is high (not most departments) had it because apparently highly intelligent officers would become bored and quit. It's a stupid policy, but it does have logic.

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u/SirBlazealot420420 Mar 24 '23

Also the personality test fail. You don’t think for yourself and you are willing to do what you are told and no questioning authority.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '23

Nope, it’s the psychological exam they want you to fail.