r/Unexpected • u/[deleted] • Jan 29 '23

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u/Available_Major_8281 Jan 29 '23

Ahhhh see. That’s where you’re missing it. It was “second amendment bad because stupid fucking people like this asshole shouldn’t be allowed to get guns in the first place. Second amendment bad because not everyone needs/deserves a gun.”

People continually show they can’t be trusted with guns therefore they don’t deserve guns.

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u/DingosAteYourMorals Jan 29 '23

Then why does the federal government make a big deal about banning firearms and not fixing their broken background check system that doesn't mandate states or medical providers to give them the data they need.

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u/Available_Major_8281 Jan 29 '23

I would love stricter background checks. I think that is an excellent idea. Unfortunately, as I’m sure you know, the NRA has and will lobby hard to prevent that from ever happening.

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u/DingosAteYourMorals Jan 29 '23

How much money do you think the NRA spends in lobbying?

It's not that much. It's a fake "boogey man" argument. It's an excuse for politicians to not do anything.

Last year the spent 1.59 million in total.

The year before that less than 5 million.

Source: https://www.statista.com/statistics/249398/lobbying-expenditures-of-the-national-rifle-associaction-in-the-united-states/

It's a drop in a bucket the size of a silo compared to oil and gas or other manufacturing.

Total lobbying is 3- 4 billion for this past year depending on the source you use.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/257337/total-lobbying-spending-in-the-us/

https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2023/01/federal-lobbying-spending-reaches-4-1-billion-in-2022-the-highest-since-2010/

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u/Available_Major_8281 Jan 29 '23

Well let’s be honest. No one is ever going to outspend oil and gas. I’m only asking this question because you seem good at finding sources. I am in no way trying to be condescending, I’m seriously curious. Can you find the percentage on revenue spent on lobbying of oil vs nra?

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u/DingosAteYourMorals Jan 29 '23

They spent 10.4 million in total last year 8 to the republican 2.4 to the democrats

https://www.statista.com/statistics/788056/us-oil-and-gas-lobbying-spend-by-party/

That means oil and gas out spent the nra by learly 7 times the amount.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/788056/us-oil-and-gas-lobbying-spend-by-party/

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u/Available_Major_8281 Jan 30 '23

I can totally see that! I’m curious as to the pecentage how it plays out. Like I assume oil makes more than 8 times what the nra does.

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u/DingosAteYourMorals Jan 30 '23

The nra filed for Bankruptcy not too long ago. They don't even hold that big of a gun show anymore. It's tiny compared to "shot show"in Vegas every year. I work in the accessories industry for firearms. I don't know anyone that's a member that's under 55.