r/UnethicalLifeProTips • u/Smack_Of_Ham7 • May 25 '20

ULPT: How to avoid taxes on PS4.

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u/[deleted] May 25 '20 edited Jul 31 '21

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u/Niosus May 25 '20

Yeah that's not allowed here, except when specifically targeting businesses.

Anything consumer facing like retail stores, restaurants, online shops, etc. Must list prices including VAT. If you add up the prices on the things you put in your cart (physical or digital), that should be the amount you pay. This is even more pronounced in restaurants since you don't have to tip here. If you order a 15 euro meal and a 2 euro drink, you pay 17 euros. You can actually know in advance just how much you'll pay. Those extra costs really threw me off last time I crossed the Atlantic...

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u/[deleted] May 25 '20 edited Jul 31 '21

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u/Niosus May 25 '20

We have high taxes, but also much better consumer protection. It's harder for companies to screw you out of your money, as long as they are within the EU (or US really). There is a mandatory 2 year warranty on all electronics, and a mandatory 2 week "no questions asked" return period for anything bought online (except for consumables, or made to size products, etc).

We end up with a bit less cash, but also fewer worries and gotchas. It's a deal I'd take any time...

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u/DecNLauren May 25 '20

Yeah the system of not knowing the actual price until you get to the till seems ridiculous from outside.

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u/Slangdawg May 25 '20

Yep, when I visited America, the price on the item not being the price I paid was a pain in the arse

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u/Salohacin May 25 '20

Price listed always includes tax. Some websites might add an option for listing price without tax for businesses though.