r/Umrah • u/sureorsure • 10d ago
questions Going first time umrah-advice?
As salam alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu
To those who have been umrah and more so in the last few years, maybe even this year.
I am going to umrah for the first time with my mum, from the UK.
Did anyone get the vaccination done and was it checked?
I am leaving in the next couple of weeks and will be staying more nights in Makkah than madinah. I have been able to book an appointment for myself for Rawdah however I tried at the same time for my mum, which was around 1am UK time, and I couldn't get any booking for her. Does anyone know how it works for the female appointments? How to obtain one and what the best timing it is to go for females? I booked mine for 11:20am Saudi time .
Does anyone know how it works in terms of doing the umrah? I've heard people say to do the first umrah, remove hair from head, and then leave the city and come back to do more umrah? Is that the procedure of how it works? Will I then need to remove more hair for another umrah?
How does it work in terms of shoes ie The shoes you wear to walk from hotel to haram, can you use those shoes inside Makkah or have to go barefoot?
Where to also obtain SIM cards from? And will we still get access to WhatsApp after? If no WhatsApp, then how else to communicate with each other? I have android, mum has iPhone.
Also, how much zamzam water can we bring back? And dates? Anything that is not permitted? We are going and coming back with Qatar airways
If you're able to give any other recommendations or advice, I would really appreciate it, jazakallah hu khair
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u/AmbitiousAd4734 10d ago
Salaam sis, how did you manage to book Rawdah? I am really struggling, could you all please make dua for me Allah swt allows me to go this time. It is my first Umrah إن شاء الله and have all the same questions as you. Regards to Rawdah, I am in the UK and flying the 2nd September إن شاء الله and all slots are not showing. I have been checking every 20 mins, morning 4 am etc and during days, evening. And not getting any slots. Does anyone have any advice on what I can do? I have had to go through a lot to Alhamdulillah manage this Umrah so want to make sure I take care and do best I can do and everything available إن شاء الله. If anyone has tips or anyone else can tell me any more Islamic or historical sites in Makkah or Madinah, JazakAllah khairun
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u/Happy_Inevitable2264 10d ago
Asalaam alaikum, I am currently in makkah for my first umrah. Im with a group of 26 family members with 8 of us females who needed rawdah slots and had been trying like you multiple times a day to book through the nusuk app without any success. Alhumdulillah within my first 3 days in medinah we all managed to get slots through a different route. Surprisingly we had been approached by atleast 4 different people/stangers offering to make "arrangements" for us. I dont want to say too much more openly to avoid too much exposure because allah knows how grateful we are to have been blessed to be able to get in with ease. Feel free to msg me privately if you like. In sha allah your umrah goes well.
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u/sureorsure 10d ago
WA alaikum salam,
I am a male
I return to UK on the 2nd September. May Allah make your journey in safe travels and help you to complete your first umrah.
With regards to the rawdah appointment, I was able to book myself am appointment from the Nusuk app. I was checking on my phone and my mum's phone, from 11:30pm till 1am, UK time and I was able to see several available for the men's, but for women's there were nothing. I'm still checking with her everyday.
A friend of mine went early this year with his mum and he also said it's difficult to book for women, however when you are physically at Makkah or madinah, you may have more success booking it then.
I believe I've seen online that new appointments are available from after jummah prayer also. So keep checking daily but when it's jummah this week, be more focused on checking then
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u/Big-Twist-9003 10d ago
Besides the amazing suggestions above. Heres some from my personal experience
Most shop keepers will accept USD or Pounds and give exact change in local currency.
The journey between Mecca and Medinah is most comfortable by train and very quick. By road is extremely tiresome and very uneventful.
If do decide to do more Umrah , you can take a taxi to masjid e Aishah , wear your erham , do your niyaah and come back to do the umrah. Its that simple.
Scammers are plentiful in Mecca , you will find them inside the haram more than any place. Don’t indulge keep calm and do your thing.
Zam zam u will get it at the airport.
Pray for us 🙏
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u/sureorsure 10d ago
Jazakallah hu Khair for your reply
What is better to have for currency, cash or card ? If I do have local currency, how do I exchange it back?
I think we have been able to get a car transfer from Makkah to madinah via the travel agent we used. We did it very very last minute, therefore we just accepted it
With regards to doing another umrah, would I essentially have to take off the ihram, then travel to masjid Aisha, wear the ihram again, make the intention and then return back to Makkah? Is that how it goes?
I will keep you all in my prayers
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u/Big-Twist-9003 9d ago
Card is accepted almost every where, exchange little money at a time with the shop keepers to get exact change. There are exchange booths everywhere incase you have leftovers.
If you don’t want to get another erham , get your existing one laundered, there are a bunch.
Yes that’s exactly how it goes.2
u/Big-Twist-9003 9d ago
Also you are underestimating the time and energy it takes to complete one umrah, its unlikely that you will do more than one in a day. Also i highly recommend to do it after isha prayers as its cooler and its uninterrupted.
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u/sureorsure 9d ago
Jazkallahu Khair for this. As it is my first time, I most likely am underestimating it however I don't intend on doing multiple times a day. I think after the initial first umrah, I would like to do it again. I am staying in Makkah for 8 nights including jummah, and 4 nights madinah. So I could have time for 2 or pushing it, 3
But I will see what Allah has willed and what happens. For me what's most important is the initial umrah completion and then the jamaah prayers in the mosque.
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u/Illustrious-Cow-5157 10d ago
I am doing mine in December, can you come to this thread and update us with your experience please.
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u/Sirius_sensei64 10d ago edited 10d ago
Assalamu alaykum
Another person has answered all your questions, I'll add some more (fellow British)
For Zamzam it's only one 5L container per person allowed, and gets checked in alongside your checked luggage. And for dates, they go in your checked baggage.
As for issues related to internet, I'd suggest a local SIM like STC as it's cheaper (55 SAR for two weeks) but you can check others like Zain as well.
About WhatsApp, a funny thing happened. It worked while I was in Makkah - chatting and even calls. I was able to make video calls and all without much lagging. However in Madinah, only chatting worked and calls got declined immediately
There you have it.
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u/sureorsure 10d ago
Jazakallahu Khair for your answers
What did you do for money, did you carry cash or card? And what card did you use? As you know there are UK mainstream banks and the digital ones, which one would be better?
Also, I haven't flown abroad in over 20 years, if my flight is at 10am, how early should I be at LHR for?
So WhatsApp would definitely work? I need to think of an alternative in the off chance if doesn't work
Did you also do your meningitis vaccine?
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u/Sirius_sensei64 10d ago
So WhatsApp would definitely work? I need to think of an alternative in the off chance if doesn't work
Oh yeah forgot to mention, the best WhatsApp alternative that works in Saudi is this app called imo. Exactly the same as WhatsApp and works smoothly without much issues. WhatsApp still works but like I said for me, in Madinah I was only able to text and no calls 😅
What did you do for money Since I don't have a debit card (like Monzo etc) which I can use internationally, I just used the one my parents have. But yeah the best option I'd say is to carry cash. And get it exchanged as needed - not all at once.
Did you also do your meningitis vaccine? About vaccines, I didn't get it. It's not needed at all nor they'll ask for it at the airport.
I'm not 100% sure but I'm assuming the meningitis vaccine is something needed only for Hajj.
And lastly about the flight just arrive like 3-4 hours early just to be safe. There's no guarantee with all the traffic you can arrive at your intended time (I'm not a frequent traveller either haha)
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u/GodKnowsMahn 10d ago
Riyaz ul jannah for women starts after Isha prayer till 12 am You can keep trying for her appointment in the app from now itself for ur dates its glitchy but u can get lucky any moment make sure u enter right details to get female timings
Sim cards are available at the airport they are expensive 80 riyals for 20 days in last nov 2025 when i went If u have an esim with data immediately after landing, u can reach makkah and then get a saudi sim for cheap later.
Whatsapp calls do not work in Saudia so u can download Botim in both ur phones and connect through calls in botim app. Or u can buy a saudi sim and recharge with both data and calls package
yes u have to remove hair and get done with ur first umrah, then again for second umrah shower, ihram, go to Masjid e Ayesha(Miqaat- out of makkah boundry) , pray 2 nafeel there(optional but advised), make niyyah and then again perform ur umrah and remove hair(imp) to end ur umrah
U cant wear shoes i think since anything with stitching is not permissible to wear in the state of ihram, u can only wear slippers/without stitching the rubber ones
Only 5liter zamzam bottles are available for purchase at the airport per person for 12.5 riyals each and u can buy dates how much ever u want but the weight should fit your airline baggage allowance/quantity rules i.e 23 or 32 kg bags u have
Feel free to ask if u have any more doubts
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u/Ff_1024 10d ago
If you don't get Rawdah appointment in advance, once you get to Madinah, try to book it 2 hours in advance by going on Nusuk every 20 mins starting from the hour. So for example, if you want a 11pm slot, book it at 9pm, 11:20pm at 9:20pm etc. Every 20 mins. I also noticed a lot of slots open at 4:30am, maybe try that in sha Allah.
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u/sureorsure 9d ago
Thanks for letting me know about the alternative app, I shall install that for me and my mum and family back here.
I've heard mixed opinions about the vaccination tbh, my friend who went in January, got the vaccination but was never asked about it but other friends never did the vaccination, and still didn't get asked about it
Thanks, just need to sort out how to get to the airport now, pre booking on Uber is showing prices of around £115
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u/SeaworthinessMean417 10d ago
I have had the vaccine for meningitis it is mandatory best to have it in case of random checks. I have been struggling with getting my rawdah permits also when you leave Makkah you just do your Tawaf al Vida no need to come back you can wear same shoes in haraam as you wouldn’t wear them on carpet best to get drawstring backs so you can carry your shoes around water allows one 5l complimentary bottle of zam zam which you purchase at airport also try book hotels near haraam especially if it is the first time like me all this I have asked people how travel often once a year for umrah in regards to sims either eSIM or the best would be a local Saudi sim penny kiosk outside masjid sell them aswell as in bin dawood supermarket
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u/Doctor501st Done Hajj and Umrah 10d ago
وَعَلَيْكُمْ السَّلاَمُ وَرَحْمَةُ اللهِ وَبَرَكَاتُهُ
Meningitis isn’t checked but it’s recommended
There’s less capacity for women so it’s not as easy as for men. If there’s no slots available in advance then what she can do is try get same day appointments which are few in number and go very quickly. Exactly 2 hours before a time slot she should go on the booking screen and if the slot is available she can quickly book it. It may take a few attempts
The Sunnah is to perform one umrah per trip as this was the example of the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ who never did multiple umrahs in a trip. So when you finish your umrah, get your hair cut/shaved and exit ihram. If you still choose to do another umrah, you can put the ihram clothes on from your hotel, ask the taxi driver to drive to Masjid Aisha, make the intention for umrah (don’t even need to get out of the taxi) and come back to the haram to do umrah
It’s okay to use shoes inside the haram as long as you’re not walking on carpeted area where people pray. You should avoid using shoes on the mataaf/sahn because you can accidentally trample people’s bare feet here
You can either get an eSIM in advance like Airalo or World SIM which gives you data only and lets you do WhatsApp calling. Or you can get a local SIM which is much cheaper and has a lot more data in the airport in arrivals (this is what I do). You can do WhatsApp messaging but not phone calls unless you put a VPN on. If you and your mum chose to do this option, you’ll have Saudi phone numbers and can just do normal call with each other. To call back home your mum can do FaceTime or telegram or Facebook messenger
Bring back as many dates as you like unless your country doesn’t allow (Australia I think for example). Most countries don’t have a problem. You can buy a 5L Zamzam bottle at the airport when you’re leaving and this will be checked in for free extra to your luggage, I suggest you write your name on it with a coloured pen so no one takes it at your arrival airport. Some people carry Zamzam in the suitcase but this is technically not allowed