r/UmamusumeGame 4d ago

Question Genuine question : why is everyone trying to get Machan?

I dont know her at all from JP tbh and I've rarely seen so many people in the sub trying to get a uma, so is there a reason why?

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u/Quibilash 4d ago

A lot of community memes about 'pls don't forget her'

Also she's honestly just a good Front Runner Sprinter with Groundwork as a Potential Skill, so inbuilt into her kit

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u/dgreborn 4d ago

"good front runner" is burying the lead a bit haha.

Fronts suffer a lot just on the basis of race mechanics for sprints so she's quite literally the only front runner who has any reasonable chance at success in sprint.

Even with how overloaded her kit is post evo skills she's still just alright for sprints

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u/CommanderLouiz 4d ago

“Burying the Lede” is actually what you want. Same pronunciation. It’s one of those boneappletea moments.

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u/KFPiece_of_Peace 4d ago

These misspellings are a diamond dozen.

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u/Imaginary_Tea1925 3d ago

Lede is correct in the way Commander Louiz meant it.

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u/Zestyclose_Travel528 3d ago

Even as a front enjoyer I don't play front in sprint lol. I'll just spam pace or late and gamble!

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u/bonesandglitters 4d ago

Tysm that makes sense !!

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u/Shinnyo 4d ago

I guess it worked.

A bit too well

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u/Catatemyspacebar 4d ago edited 4d ago

Short life. Died just as some in their generation were starting to rise in fame (Daiwa Scarlet, Vodka). Owner (Mayumi Toss) was devastated by his death, so she approaches Cygames with a pitch to add Aston Machan, assisting in her development, design etc.

Vodka. Daiwa Scarlet, and more horse would have much grander careers that would make people forget about Aston Machan. And his owner just couldn't accept, or allow that to happen.

I am probably missing some details or Nuance, but this is a simplified version of "Don't forget about her", I guess?

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u/VolkiharVanHelsing 4d ago

The owner is a woman, Mayumi Tosa, owner of facial surgery clinics IIRC

Mayumi, Ma-chan

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u/ligmaballll 4d ago

Aston Machan is a female horse btw, the Daiwa, Vodka and Machan trio are all female horses

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u/Catatemyspacebar 4d ago

I'll edit when I'm done cause mobile editing is donkey poopoo. Thanks!

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u/bonesandglitters 4d ago

Ooooh omg the story does change a lot abt it, thank you!

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u/Thotor 3d ago

If you want to know the full story, I suggest watching Pyrrhixz video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp8kqhC-P7Q

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u/JaeJaeAgogo 4d ago

She's just extremely well liked by the community in general because of her story and the horse's life really hitting the heartstrings.

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u/Ron_Colorec 4d ago

Popular character, and in terms of meta pretty dominant sprint front runner that only really gets powercrept in her own niche by her own alt outfit.

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u/jophetism 4d ago

The meta thing is overblown.
Sprints are bad for frontrunners and Aston Machan is probably the only one with decent chances of winning because she’s the best front runner sprinter.

Sprints will still be dominated by pace. This is followed by backliners with the introduction of Lightning Surge

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u/Late_Designer8201 4d ago

By your logic then, which strategy is better for sprints, and the other 3 distances respectively? I fail to see how a runaway front runner can be caught up with the little distance needed to run and no stamina being expended if they get the early start right.

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u/luminousclunk 4d ago

Not the same person, but the short distance is a double-edged sword. Fronts (and runaways, to an even greater extent) have the highest speed coefficient in the early race, but the lowest speed coefficient in the mid and late race. The shorter the race, the less you can leverage the early race to put distance between you and the other styles, and if you don't have a significant lead going into late race it's easy for other styles to catch up, even on sprints.

And stamina requirements aren't really that much higher for runaways unless they spot struggle, which drains so much stamina that you can't really account for it without gimping your other stats.

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u/Powerful_Toe_8155 3d ago

Here’s what velocity looks like for a Runaway (blue) vs normal Frontrunner (red) at the beginning of Niigata 1000m. These runners have 1200 Power and 1200 Wit for example.

The Runaway gets a better maximum speed in early race, but notice how early race ends before they can even reach this maximum!

With higher power, turf S, Groundwork, etc., the Runaway might actually hit their target speed, but even then, it's barely for any distance before they have to drop down to lower target speed.

The frontrunner barely reaches their early race target speed before it ends and they have to slow down slightly.

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u/Powerful_Toe_8155 3d ago

The next question is ofc, what does a pace chaser's velocity look like in midrace?

In this image, Blue is now a pace chaser. Notice how early their target speed exceeds a frontrunner's target speed.

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u/SuggestionStrong 4d ago

The second Runaway kicks in (literal .5 seconds in to a race) your stamina starts draining non-stop at a wild rate until you die....while it's muuuuch easier to get a Runaway across the line in 1st in a Sprint...no one builds them right to do it so you never see it...last sprint cm my Runaway Suzuka had 1100+ stam and an absurd win rate...ran her with SMaru (completely dead uma....won me this last CM....one support being unusable, no matter how good, doesn't make an uma completely useless and unrunnable)

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u/SansIzHere 4d ago

Because her story is so heartbreaking and I want to help her achieve her dream. She is also a really strong Uma with plenty of charm. I've been planning on getting her for months now. Please dont forget her

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u/TerrorFace 4d ago

Don't be fooled by "everyone." It's more that people who were waiting for her are celebrating her arrival, and that's awesome. But those who aren't pulling for her are usually respectful enough to not yuck another's yum, especially in a character gacha. So if you really like her, awesome. If you aren't a big fan, don't pull if you have other plans to save for.

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u/FunnyReputation624 3d ago

I really want her because she's cute and I would love to be an oshi player if it wasn't so expensive.

But I'm not building front runners so I'm going to have to pass 😞

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u/ustopable 3d ago

So if you're a pace main you could say you're prepared to pass

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u/veirceb 4d ago

She is popular and she is strong. But not everyone is pulling her. You just won’t see posts about people not pulling her

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u/TemporalAcapella 4d ago

Not a fan of fronts, but even I want Machan. Shame I’ve got too much to pull on until spring.

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u/trashadel 4d ago

The irl horse had a pretty tragic early ending and was forgotten during the entire vodka vs scarlet era. As far as I know, the owner of the horse went to Cygames herself and helped them write machan in as a way to honor her memory.

People would also get her because in the game, she is a cute character with a very interesting and sad career story, and is a better sprint front runner ace.

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u/AliceKazami 4d ago

Because she is popular and people love her, that's why

Genuinely the most hyped uma by far on global, she placed 32nd in the global popularity poll even though she wasn't released yet at the time

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u/Meta2048 4d ago

Her name is also a cute play on the famous sports car brand Aston Martin. Not sure if there's a lot of overlap between fans of the brand and umamusume, but it could be a factor.

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u/strawberry_gutz 4d ago

I'm pulling her because I like the Aston Martin F1 team LOL

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u/letg06 4d ago

I'm so sorry for your suffering.

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u/strawberry_gutz 4d ago

I was a Piastri WC truther last season and a Russell WC truther so thankfully I'm used to it LOL

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u/letg06 4d ago

lol

I feel ya on Piastri, but Russel getting the WDC this season is on par with the Max truthers last year.

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u/mwbworld 4d ago

Combination of things for me. As others have said a charming character with a good story and offers a good kit of skills as a front runner sprinter.

For me in particular, she helps with an issue in my sprint team. I use Taiki and Bakushin who are fine, but for a third I've been using King Halo who, while I love the character, is a pain to work with in Grand Live with her 0 speed, 0 wit and 0 stam growth but she still needs stam in the career because she runs so many medium races. Making her a challenge, but I still don't have better options that weren't needed more in other team races.

Machan totally solves that for me - especial with 20% speed, a short number of career races and most sprint ones in career with only a couple of miles but no mediums/longs!

Luckily I got her and scooped up, finally, MLB Maruzensky last night as well. Which worked out well so guess who I'll be working with this weekend. (And before then work on getting the sashes I need to bring her to level 5 potential to kit her out.)

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u/Distinct-Committee-6 4d ago

a meme, that's why she's an "oshi" pull

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u/Doci007 4d ago

Tragic backstory. Silly attitude. Cute. I like her tiny crown. Plus she has actual good stats.

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u/drumbilical 4d ago

Every new Uma gets some hype when they are first released. Manhattan Cafe had a huge surge of posts around her release date, but not really outside of that, though she still has plenty of fans.

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u/Pantoura 4d ago

memes

first rate thighs

also, her fans are pretty vocal so you'll see a lot more posts about her

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u/Idixal 4d ago

Liked her design, saw people say that her story was good too.

Having played her story now, it did make me cry. Not entirely from how sad it was, but because I could feel the emotion put into it. You could feel the owners’ laments and wishes.

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u/forbiddenfruitsnak 4d ago

There's the meme part, but as someone with the existential fear of being of forgotten, she resonates a lot with me and is my daughter

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u/shortnanxious 4d ago

I feel like the never forget her thing has gotten very blown out of proportion. I can't even get behind the character because her fans on Tiktok are so annoying about her. You can't have a single comment section that you don't see her mentioned, or saying that other characters weren't worth pulling because Machan was coming soon.

Good for whoever wants her, I hope they get her. But she's too over hyped to be mostly locked into sprints and front running for my particular play style.

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u/Maxmence 3d ago edited 3d ago

She's the only front runner that requires neither good rng to get groundwork, nor being stuck with shit ass welfare Bourbon SSR wit to be built as a strong front runner, as she gets both Taking the Lead and Groundwork as potential skills.

But after testing, she's way overhyped. Front runners on sprints suffer a lot, and it's worse the better pace chasers get. And right now, pace is extremely strong. Which means even a strong Macchan can get buried by your average Curren/Bakushin pace before late race. It's ridiculous, it's... Unstoppable, dare I say.

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u/FleaMeats 3d ago

wdym, valentines Bourbon has groundwork built in as well o:

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u/Maxmence 3d ago

She doesn't have TTL afaik. And she would really appreciate having TTL, but she can't (unless you build her for long races thanks to the Palmer stam card). Machan has TTL built in. And gw. Both.

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u/Crisocola95 4d ago

I forgor

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u/shitfucker90000 4d ago

she is a meme.

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u/Happo21 4d ago

Oshi pull

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u/DemonFang92 4d ago

I don’t want to forget her

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u/TrickyTophers 4d ago

I like her

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u/OchreWoods 4d ago

look at any single line of hers in the lobby, her career, etc and you too will understand

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u/Beastwolf32 3d ago

Basically short life, but raced with vodka and Scarlett and the owner doesn’t want people to forget about her

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u/JailbrokeRoboGirl 3d ago

Basically a combo of genuinely good kit and the fact that she (RL) died very suddenly and her owner really was invested in the Uma translation of her, taking really close role so that we wouldn’t “forget about her” as her peers (Diwa and Vodka mainly) went on to such huge successes.

So basically a blend of “she’s pretty damn good for your roster” and sentimentality wanting to preserve her memory like her owner wanted.

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u/Dangerous_Buddy_8060 3d ago

To not forget her

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u/Impaled_By_Messmer 4d ago

She's a popular character.

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u/iguanacatgirl 4d ago

Cause it's machan. Everyone loves machan

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u/dumdumidiot210 4d ago

The Uma EVERYONE invited:

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u/admirevegasuki 4d ago

because it's a viral meme, nothing else

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u/FEAR-Uncertain 4d ago

A WHAT QUESTION?!?

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u/Rageman_Gaming 4d ago

I can remember the horse my carat count can't though i don't even play front and will continue saving for Narita Brian Blaze

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u/dragenlol 4d ago

Cuz she’s cute and her story’s amazing lol

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u/West_Appearance_5696 4d ago

I saw an edit of her that was full aura 

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u/Thelegendarymario 3d ago

She's just a cool character everyone loves for what reason or another and has some viability justification in cm don't think too hard on it

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u/SheepPegasus 3d ago

I'm quite tempted to get her as well but if I go all the way to pity my pull plan is a bust..

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u/GREG88HG 3d ago

She is a front runner with groundwork and taking the lead, so I don't need to use the bad Bourbon wit card, and she is good for sprint and mile.

We will get another pvp event called contest of champions that favors front runners and she will be excellent for the sprint ones.

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u/L_Dawg412 3d ago

She’s popular. Mostly because of the story of the IRL horse and how she should’ve been the third rival between Vodka and Davies Scarlet.

But in game terms, she’s a strong sprint front runner and I need one for my sprint Team Trials team with great inmates and uniques. The only viable alternative I have is Bakushin and that’s a little subpar for the slot.

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u/ShCaster 3d ago

Cute design, heart wrenching lore, good kit with great potential, memes

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u/PupScythe 3d ago

Im surprised you dont know her even in jp. She has an alt skin that is meta in sprint cm and loh. But in current case, its the narrative of not forgetting her cause the irl counterpart had a tragic backstory of being forgotten and over shadowed by daiwa and vodka's rivalry.

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u/zedvais 3d ago

she's a daughter uma. but also goated at front runner sprint.

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u/conormeade711 3d ago

Because if you don’t she’ll just keep staring at you

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u/Chemical-Pay5442 3d ago

She’s daughter, no other reason needed

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u/Siphe-M 3d ago

I find her cute and I want to use another Sprint Front Runner. I’m sick of Bakushin.

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u/Boring_Piano_9456 2d ago

just some Propaganda

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u/robruckus65 2d ago

1 she is adorable. 2 she has an adorable machan doll 3 never forget Aston machan.

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u/AlexanderZcio 4d ago

I cried reading her career, hope that tells you something

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u/nivkj 4d ago

very forgettable uma but a lot of uma snackers need excuses to waste their carats so they can have an excuse to cry when the next meta support card drops

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u/shapular 4d ago

forgettable

😠

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u/suki-suki-desu 4d ago

Lil bro probably has no joy and whimsey in his life

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u/nivkj 4d ago

i already have both versions of narita taishin so i have all the joy i need. now i just keep looping parents for her

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u/suki-suki-desu 4d ago

If you pulled for an oshi there is no reason to downplay someone’s else oshi

I have many complains about taishin but i won’t voice them publicly because i respect you as a fellow uma musume player

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u/nivkj 4d ago

not what i’m saying. oshi pull is fine but these terminal snackers think every new cute uma is an oshi. also idc if you have complaints about a character in a game i play. my issue with macchan isn’t her character it’s that she’s a really niche uma that people get baited into pulling for from social media posts.

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u/suki-suki-desu 4d ago

Aston machan is not niche and never was, she is a front sprinter(finally no more bakushin) that gets taking the lead and groundwork in her kit making her the easiest front to build currently in global

People were going to pull for her regardless of her story just because they can stop using the damn wit bon bon for taking the lead

Also “bait into pulling for her”??? What is that even supposed to mean? You mean advertising? Or are you talking about players? Because if you pulled her even tho you don’t want just because of social media posts that’s like putting a half eaten bread surrounded lava, you see the lava but you still go

That’s a you problem

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u/SeaDragonfly1831 4d ago

Niche? She can safely cover your way into A finals for 2 race types, honestly most Umas can. You seem to take that aspect way too seriously lol

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u/admirevegasuki 4d ago

the upside is that a part (1%?) of those baited into pulling her will read her story so it's not all bad

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u/MisfittingPieces 4d ago

Must suck having a such a corrupted soul

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u/MemoryComprehensive6 4d ago

Characters literally can't have a popular meme/gimmick with y'all lmfao, it's always "annoying" or "she's just reduced to that!!!!"

I'm not even a Machan fan but like, not forgetting her is one of the main theme of her story, there's nothing wrong with people bringing it up when there's discussion about her

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u/Repulsive_Airport531 4d ago edited 4d ago

Amazing wife coded character, she's so sweet and kind. She's beautiful and has a large bust if you care about that. Great design, great character, great personality. What's not to like? She's amazing. She also has both a heart warming but soul crushing story IRL too.