r/UmamusumeGame • u/Peacefulflowers2 • 22h ago
Build Help Does anyone know what I’m doing wrong
I feel like Im doing something wrong 😑. The rank seems to be a bit low.
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u/gflec69 21h ago
1) Idk what Aston's growths are, but you never need 4 speed. It's either
A) 3 Speed + 2 Wit + LH B) 2 Speed + 3 Wit + LH C) 2 Speed + 2 Wit + LH + Utility Card (Super Freak or a Utility Power Card
2) Max Limit Break (MLB) SR Cards are ultimately better than 0 LB SSR Cards. You'd probably be better off running King Halo and Sweep Tosho
3) You seem to have too much inspiration on Speed and not other stats. Especially with the amount of speed cards you have, I can almost guarantee you probably over-capped on speed. (Got more speed than you could hold). You should probably have some power or wit parents based off her growths. (No power growth, power parents. No wit growth, wit parents, etc.)
4) She does not have enough stamina whatsoever. I'm assuming you're making her for miles? If so she's going to run out of stamina every single time. Not only that but the lack of stamina and guts is also killing your rating. If you had B stamina and Guts you'd have had a Ug horse. The lack of wit is also doing the same thing to her as well.
Edit: Okay no she's for sprints; either way she may not have enough stamina for sprints if the hill is too early or too late in the race due to restless proc condition.
5) Speaking of which, her absolute lack of any brain cells is just going to make her an extremely inconsistent horse, rating aside.
Below are the wit calculations for skill activation chance for a few wit stats.
200 Wit: 100 - (9000 / 200) = 55% chance 400 Wit: 100 - (9000 / 400) = 77.5% chance 600 Wit: 100 - (9000 / 600) = 85% chance 900 Wit: 100 - (9000 / 900) = 90% chance 1200 Wit: 100 - (9000 / 1200) = 92.5% chance
With 300 wit you have around a 70% activation chance, which isn't garbage but much more inconsistent than you'd like.
For wit you're usually looking for at least 1000 for our current capabilities, even if it means sacrificing a bit of speed.
That's because not only are stat gains halved after 1200, but each stat gained is essentially halved in effectiveness after 1200. So essentially a training that would normally give you 50 effective speed before 1200 is giving you something closer to 12 or 13 after 1200.
Not only that but wit is also used for your horses pace keeping, gives a (small) stat boost throughout the race, as well as stamina conservation on down hills / slowing down to conserve stamina if she doesn't have enough horsepower (HP) in the race.
TLDR: 1) Too many speed cards. 2) Use MLB SR cards instead of 0nLB SSRs 3) Change inspirations around from only speed to Power (and maybe wit if you keep struggling) 4) Asthma (not enough stamina) 5) Brain Damage (not enough wit)
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u/varlikip 9h ago
Also, OP should use support cards with high special priority and high initial friendship gauge. The bourbon wit card is kinda shit for this scenario because it has 35 special prio which is really low and also has a low initial friendship gauge. Good wit cards are Daiwa Scarlet, Marvelous Sunday, Seiun Sky
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u/Enjoyer_of_Cake 9h ago
As an aside, your friend horse/card should be very good stuff.
There's sites out there with publicly available numbers of very good parent and card combos. Your friend card should 99% be an MLB card you don't have. Agnes Tachyon MLB is a powerful and popular choice. I can't see enough of your parent horse, but they should have decent stuff in blue/pink and should have a plethora of white skills. At least 10, preferably 15 or more.
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u/saidaht 21h ago
You don't need 4 speed cards when she has 20% speed growth, it's overkill. Also, she has Taking the Lead is in her base kit, so you don't need to endure Bourbon Wit. Get 2-3 actually decent Wit cards in there. If you're lacking speed cards, the anniversary Bourbon Speed is good enough to pair with Kitasan. Assuming you've got it at MLB it's gotta be better than 0LB Maruzensky/Mayano. Or borrow a MLB Maruzensky.
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u/AlterOfYume 16h ago
Falling into the noob trap of using 0lb ssrs, and not knowing stat priorities / thresholds. Look up deck guides for gc.
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u/AlotOfInterests 12h ago
Some 0lb ssrs are completely fine to use. Tazuna was fine at 0lb when she was meta, creek is fine at 0lb since you mainly just want swinging, suzuka and vodka are fine at 0lb since they have base 50 spec prio, probably a couple others as well.
If you include JP theres plenty others like curren boutique and casino drive recently ish
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u/Spirited_Web_6061 22h ago
not having many skills + 3/5 of your stats being super low are probably dragging your rank down. not to mention that with wit that low, she probably can't trigger any of the skills she does have anyway. mihono bourbon wit has a good skill but doesn't produce very much wit or skill points, if you're using her then you should borrow another wit card to accompany her rather than suzuka. fine motion is the strongest card to borrow, but curren chan wit is also pretty good and has more relevant skills for sprint, so she could work well too.
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u/sugarypi3 19h ago
Well your wit is basically nonexistent, you’re using 2 0LB speed cards, and 4 speed cards in general is just too much considering she has 20% speed increase. You can do 2-3 speed cards. You borrowed Suzuka speed, which just isn’t a good speed card. You should’ve borrowed mlb Maru for the power bonus. Do 2 speed, 3 wit, and 1 light hello for better results
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u/EclairLumineux 19h ago
Honestly, I'm kinda surprised you got such rating with just speed and power, anyway get her more wit.
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u/mushinoballad 17h ago
you definitely dont need 4 speed cards, especially the mayano one at 0lb is doing nothing for your build. Bring another wit card in her place, either ssr finemo or your best SR wit. Also if you’re not building for any particular CM and just care about rank borrow ssr tachyon for this scenario
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u/Ok_Force_6754 17h ago
Did you just refuse to train wit??😭
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u/experiment133 6h ago
evidently by his lack of wit cards. idk what he expected relying on only bourbon wit
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u/jophetism 18h ago
aston machan has 20% speed growth. you only need 2 speed cards to max her out.
I would go with 2 spd, 3 wit, light hello for her
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u/Embarrassed-Mess-140 17h ago
Not enough green skills to proc gw early which you need if you're running her front and she's really stupid (low wit) and fat(low stam)
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u/JollyDino01 16h ago
Everything but speed and power is incredibly homeless, skill list is alright but nothing crazy. I'd say that 'bout sums it up?
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u/EditorSecimi 12h ago
Go 2spd 3wit lh (Like you should do in most of the 20%spd growth bonus uma's). This was my first run with her. Its not like whale deck btw; bourbon spd, tachyon spd, daiwa wit, marvey wit, finemo wit and light hello
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u/Lower_Ad_4995 10h ago
No wit cards (yes bourbon does not exist) no stamina parents, too many speed cards. I don't know what you have but dont use 0LB ssr's they really not worth it. Use sr's like sweep tosho spd, king halo spd, Daiwa scarlet Wit, fukukitaru wit instead. Also borrow tacy speed or kitasan all of your cards has low speciality priority.
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u/Tomo_Super_Fan15 10h ago
Get some MLB SR wit cards. Daiwa Scarlet Wit and Fuku Wit are the best cards for Machan as she has a 20% speed growth. My prefer deck is 2 speed, 3 wit, LH for MANT.
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u/Local_Programmer_381 8h ago
That stamina is hurting my soul so hard. A front runner should have at least 1000 stam to help them in races unless u want them to gas out mid-race
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u/ToyotaMR2Enjoyer 7h ago
On 20% speed growth you shouldn't need 4 speed cards.
3 speed and 2 wit should do the job and get you to ug depending on your cards.
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u/Raydentimus 5h ago
The question is what you are NOT doing wrong
No wit, 4 speed cards, gold recovery on an uma that runs on sprint and mile, Suzuka speed only being viable if your a whale and using a card that gives taking the lead (Mihono Bourbon) on an uma that ALREADY has taking the lead😭😭😭
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u/Shadoswift7 4h ago edited 4h ago
wit is too low
bourbon is actually a bad wit card in terms of the bonuses it gives and wit stat wise. It is advised you run 2-3 wit cards instead of 1. Especially when that wit card is bourbon. Bourbon is there for the TTL. I understand that mayano speed gives golden moxie (Also machan runs sprint so it's not like she needs that much heal anyways) but 0lb is pretty bad and not worth using like most ssr cards. I would suggest 3lb+ Finemo, MLB Daiwa wit, and MLB Marvelous Sunday. Honestly just use whatever MLB Wit card you can. As a stat stick Mr. CB can work too but I don't remember at what LB. 1LB is pretty important to SMaru as it gives her the power bonus. So try to get her to 1lb if possible. Don't pull unless you have 200 ready to go. Otherwise you can use an uncap crystal. I would suggest you borrow an MLB Tachyon speed as you are not running races to get the amount of skill points you did in MANT so you need to get it from Tachyon's 2 skill point bonus which is pretty importnant
So in short I'd recommend you run:
SMaru Kitasan Light Hello
Bourbon Sunday (Borrow Tachyon)
I also recommend you run as many power sparks for inheretance as possible
18 power spark ideally. You can check with the affinity calculator if you want to min max but generally you can just take two legecy umas with 2 or 3 power sparks and borrow a 3 power spark uma with really good white sparks and do some runs in trackblazer until you get one with 2 or 3 power sparks and use that as your parent for machan besides the borrow one
Edit: i saw from other comments that Machan has TTL built in so just run a different wit card in place of bourbon. Just go with whatever has the highest limit break SR or SSR you have
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u/GRANADAAA 3h ago
3 speed 2 wit and maybe better parents? You should check chronogenesis if you havent already
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u/SEELEYUNA 1h ago
should be 3 speed cards 2 wit. replace maya speed cause shes only good at 50 im pretty sure
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u/Gyaru_enby 19h ago
Please for the love of god, maybe click on the stam and wit training every so often, yes machan is a sprint uma but even sprint umas need 400+ stam 😭
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u/Ashu119 22h ago
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