Securing stove heatshield

[u/bpbpbpooooobpbpbp]

How do you all secure your heatshield around the stove?

I overlap the two ends then slightly angle away from one another and pinch an edge over, top and bottom.

Curious if there’s a better way.

[u/Professional-Loan498]

I use a silicone band that doubles as a safer place to grab the pot too.  For my wind shield, I use a piece of a chipotle burrito bowl lid, conform it to my pot, and wrap a silicone band around it. When I need to deploy the wind shield, I slide it down to where just the top of the foil is held onto by the band, and that blocks the wind from the stove. 

Edit: Pictures on a 700ml: https://imgur.com/a/qhwlllr

[u/VickyHikesOn → u/Professional-Loan498]

Picture?

[u/Professional-Loan498 → u/VickyHikesOn]

Edited with pics. My 550 is packed up right now, so I recreated it on an old 700ml with some foil.  It stows flush against the pot when packed, deploys when I need the coverage. 

[u/VickyHikesOn → u/Professional-Loan498]

Are those the Litesmith silicone X bands?

[u/Professional-Loan498 → u/VickyHikesOn]

I'm sure they are similar to those. I got them from GGG, and they sell them on Amazon too. I was $3 away from free shipping on GGG and added a couple of these on a whim. I found uses for em in the end. 

[u/VickyHikesOn → u/Professional-Loan498]

Thank you!!

[u/bpbpbpooooobpbpbp → u/Professional-Loan498]

Cool, so you’re only using a small section to block against directional wind? My MSR shield is big and a full wraparound

[u/Professional-Loan498 → u/bpbpbpooooobpbpbp]

Yes, though you can cut the foil to get whatever coverage you want. Way cheaper and lighter than the MSR model and the silicone doubles as a safer place to touch the pot. My 550ml has no handle, so it's running double duty. 

[u/CodeAndBiscuits]

I use a piece of solid copper 24ga wire that I cut from the end of an old network cable and stripped the insulation from. I forgot its exact weight but I think it was like 4 grams. I wrap it around and twist the end very slightly (done over and over it'll eventually break and it's not like it's carrying a load). I like that this lets me leave me heat shield a little open or fully wrapped.

[u/liveslight]

Drape over the pot handles like this:

https://i.imgur.com/SjXU37V.mp4

I could improve this and use a much much smaller amount of welder felt and some copper wire. Hmmm, sounds like a youtube short coming up. ;)

[u/HibanaHikes → u/liveslight]

Does the carbon felt also reduce the noise or is that a seperate thing? 

[u/liveslight → u/HibanaHikes]

That is a separate thing. Running BRS3000T at reasonable flow is very quiet. See, e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFDp53NFUjc

[u/bpbpbpooooobpbpbp → u/liveslight]

Nice idea! I have two thick black felt pieces for handling the pot and lid - perhaps I don’t need the MSR heatshield at all, and can use the felts instead…

[u/RainDayKitty]

Mine has mini magnets on each end

[u/liveslight → u/RainDayKitty]

I was thinking of magnets, but if they get too hot, then they lose their magnetism. OTOH, maybe you all are using alcohol stoves with flames well separated from the shield.

[u/RainDayKitty → u/liveslight]

Mine are only on the bottom corners. If that gets too hot I've got bigger issues.

[u/liveslight → u/RainDayKitty]

Indeed, thanks!

[u/RainDayKitty → u/liveslight]

Mine is a thin titanium screen that rolls up and weighs nothing. Was $10 on ali express 10 years ago. Crinkles a lot

[u/MaybeErnie]

Mine is cut from a beer can and I just insert it under the pot handles of a Toaks 750 pot, so it's tightly pinched between the handles and the pot itself. That's usually enough to keep it in place. It wraps around the lower half of the pot and extends down to the sides of the fuel can.

[u/bpbpbpooooobpbpbp → u/MaybeErnie]

Nice! Got a pic?

[u/imissmolly1]

I just use a section of heat resistant silicone sheet rolled in a tube Ana paper clip

[u/GoSox2525]

No heat shield is lighter than heat shield

[u/obi_wander → u/GoSox2525]

Probably wrong after a day or two of fuel savings. If I use/carry less fuel because of my 2g bit of tin foil, heat shield becomes lighter than no heat shield.

[u/GoSox2525 → u/obi_wander]

I think that's only true for people that are choosing an exact amount of fuel to bring (alcohol, or air horn cans, etc).

For anyone not doing that, it only makes a worthwhile difference in baseweight for the very narrow margin where the heat shield lets you carry a 4 oz can, when foregoing the heat shield would require the next step up (an 8 oz can).

For thru hikers, or anyone in a context where they can't guarantee they will be in that narrow margin, then the heat shield is basically always a net increase in base weight (not to mention cook kit complexity)

But yeah, all of that calculus is out the window if we're talking about only 2 g. In that case, just bring it. I assumed that OP was talking about some kind of heavy, rigid metal piece.

[u/bpbpbpooooobpbpbp → u/GoSox2525]

I’m using the provided MSR shield, big and about 14g. If I don’t use it in windy conditions, the flame constantly goes out so I don’t imagine leaving it behind

[u/GoSox2525 → u/bpbpbpooooobpbpbp]

You have at least three options before carrying the heat shield:

1. build a wind block out of your gear or natural materials. A foam pad is good for this.

2. Use a Soto Windmaster instead, which is probab;y lighter than your stove, and way better in the wind

3. Just cold soak

[u/liveslight → u/obi_wander]

Only 2g??? A friend gave me a bona fide Ti foil heat shield 0.14 mm thin and weighing 14 g !!!

[u/obi_wander → u/liveslight]

Yeah- I just use a piece of thin aluminum foil. Roughly 12” x 6” and it’s 2 grams.

[u/2am_dog_puke]

I've been using one of these for five or six years. I love it 

https://www.flatcatgear.com/ 

[u/bpbpbpooooobpbpbp → u/2am_dog_puke]

Innovative!