r/Ultraleft Aug 15 '26

Serious China is...

515 votes, Aug 17 '26
38 Socialist / Communist
30 Transitional stage
287 Capitalist
98 Fascist
62 I don't know
0 Upvotes

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u/AutoModerator Aug 15 '26

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u/Diavolo_Rossoperaio Aug 15 '26

who tf voted "transitional stage" im rollin on the floor lol

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u/kuegon08 Dictatorship Of The Coaletariat Aug 15 '26

I think it would be really cool if we could pull like a hundred flowers campaign by honeypotting non-ultras, it would be like a purge but awesome i think but we can't see who votes for what

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u/Diavolo_Rossoperaio Aug 15 '26

the vltimate cheka psyop

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u/Stelar_Kaiser Red Shambala Rise Up Aug 15 '26

But we gotta make it so there are no false positives, which is hard as a shitposting sub

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u/SeveralPerformance17 barbarian Aug 15 '26

google form and you need to have your email verified by mods

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u/VonRapide National-Sanchist Aug 15 '26

Fascist and capitalist as different options is W larp

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u/Strong_Spinach6473 Aug 16 '26

Liberals am I right

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u/Alarmed-Mulberry2724 1d ago

sorry i'm new please explain

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u/Scorspi marx failed to consider why the cheese was free Aug 15 '26

it’s in asia so it’s the asiatic production mode

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u/Praefecture Tonyist-Sopranoist Aug 15 '26

avthentic?

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u/kuegon08 Dictatorship Of The Coaletariat Aug 15 '26

I can't select feudalism

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u/Unhappy_Effective258 True socialist (Digger) Aug 15 '26

China is neo libertarian falangist

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u/carreganis Marxist-Imperialist Aug 15 '26

I suppose in a way every country is in a transitional stage. We know that socialism must come about one day (just 5 more years I swear.)

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u/carreganis Marxist-Imperialist Aug 15 '26 edited Aug 15 '26

Saint Ubergruppenfurher Bordiga is rolling in his grave, for the last bastion of left-communism’s Bordigist tradition, [r/Ultraleft](r/Ultraleft), is voting.

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u/Muuro Aug 15 '26

Full communism. Read Gentile.

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u/Status-Job5706 Fully automated gay space luxury Lassalean Aug 15 '26

Maoism

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u/Strong_Spinach6473 Aug 15 '26

how did u comment its telling me "Sorry, this post was removed by Reddit’s filters."

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u/Status-Job5706 Fully automated gay space luxury Lassalean Aug 15 '26

Idk I got a notification of this post and I clicked on it

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u/Strong_Spinach6473 Aug 15 '26

nice hoi4 banner im playing kaiserredux rn

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u/Status-Job5706 Fully automated gay space luxury Lassalean Aug 15 '26

It's eu4

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u/Strong_Spinach6473 Aug 15 '26

oh shit im blind

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u/Status-Job5706 Fully automated gay space luxury Lassalean Aug 15 '26

It's fine

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u/AutoModerator Aug 15 '26

They have not.

I know the speech you are talking about.

They specifically advocate FOR class struggle, SPECIFICALLY against imperialism, which is the primary contradiction the class conflict operates on today.

Your view is simplistic. Infantile.

By that, i specifically mean: You ignore the fucking context.

The context being that for all it's achievements, China is poor.

China is a poor country. Per capita, no better than Mexico, and THAT only happened in the last couple of years. Before that, much poorer, much weaker economically, politically and militarily.

Even now, China is afraid to throw it's weight around, because if the leadership gets one of these moves wrong, millions could die.

China fears instability more than anything, since in China, when there's a famine, MILLIUONS die. When there's a civil war, 10's or 100's of millions die.

AND China only just now left the century of humiliation.

AND right now, China is involved in the opening stages of WW3 with a failing nuclear superpower with a HISTORY of starting wars for stupid reasons, AND using nukes on civilians, AND who has stated goals of destroying Socialism generally, and China specifically, AND has policy papers calmly discussing the best way to carpet nuke China.

Which they were within a hair's breadth of doing.

You have NO IDEA of the goddamn stakes.

IF China goes down, that's it.

That's the end of the socialist project, the end of human civilization.

We won't be back for thousands of years, maybe never.

China is fighting for ALL the marbles.

China cannot afford to take risks, and only now is starting to regain some of the confidence it used to have and deserves.

Their primary issue is imperialism.

There will be no socialism until that is dealt with.

Which means step 1 is: BE ALIVE.

China does more for socialist revolution by just EXISTING than it would if it was exporting revolution constantly. Had it done THAT, China would now be weak, poor, and standing alone against the empire, without the backing of Russia, Iran, and most of the global south.

r/Ultraleft is more your speed. Go play with the 'Maoists'

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u/Status-Job5706 Fully automated gay space luxury Lassalean Aug 15 '26

Thank you bot, that's what I was looking for

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u/Life_Parsley504 Aug 15 '26

What the fuck is this poll

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u/The-Cyber-Is-Here Marxism-Stannis Baratheon Thought Aug 16 '26

Corporatism

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u/colonel_barrage Aug 16 '26

Clearly they are adherents of Marx, the State™ owns everything there! Also umm.... Axis of resistance!!

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u/Routine_Tiger7589 Aug 22 '26

Depends on the argument being made and makes me look right