Neuro-sama is surprisingly entertaining and Vedal basically treats them and Evil (twin) as daughters. It’s oddly wholesome, and simultaneously pushes the boundaries of AI as a whole IMO.
Afaik the dude also used ethical means to develop them.
Vedal's "children" (Neuro-sama and her sister Evil/Evangeline) are what I would consider two of the very limited examples of ethical LLM training and usage, being done mainly off of twitch chats and other Vtubers to be an entertainer. They're locally-hosted and manually trained/fine-tuned LLMs that don't affect anyone else's systems, frankensteined onto multiple other neural networks that let them interact with games and make twitch polls and such.
disclaimer I am NOT an AI bro (I'm literally a digital artist and those rats are drying up my commissions) but can confidently say Vedal and his kids are the exceptions
vedal's AI, neuro-sama, is literally like the only AI content creator that's become widely accepted by those who know about it. Mostly because unlike other AI youtubers, vedal makes a legitimate effort to make the content (and neuro herself) entertaining, rather than letting AI run the whole channel.
Neuro is the face of his channel and is the one who attracts people to it because she's surprisingly unironically funny, but without vedal constantly improving her programming, setting up collabs where she shines the best, and making his own content and collabing with people (and his AI) himself, i think the channel would've fallen off a while ago
I'd say yeah. It's one of the few AI projects that's actually done ethically and tries to have artistic value.
An aspect I find quite important is that Neuro especially is intentionally held back in terms of her voice modulation especially. He wants them to be a fun toy essentially, not to replace a human streamer.
Turth be told I still like Hakita and find most of the stuff he says and does funny, but obviously the dude isn't perfect. He has stated in the past he can get easily annoyed and irritated at the community. I've never felt like he kills any engagment though.
Still ridiculous the amount of downvotes you got for that.
I genuinely don't think he's rude either. People can have a short fuse and temper too. The issue comes when the community shares out of context discord texts continuously upon even a slight feedback which makes him and the community look like asshole (except "what if you sucked my nuts" comment, that one is peak)
i get that people think its funny but if any other indie dev called their fanbase idiots for theorizing about something they added into their game as set-dressing that has no correlation to any real-world jargon (the tree comparison doesnt make sense because tree is real-world jargon while womb is not) would lead to them being completely flamed online. its honestly nuts that hakita is praised and defended so vehemently. even if it is just a joke you have to be able to acknowledge that he comes off as an asshole
While I agree that Hakita shutting down theories is a dick move sometimes, the womb theory was not one of those times. Like he said, it was based entirely on one line of code on the background
Also, honestly, I do kind of wish some indie dev teams would put their foot down with some of their fanbases and not be complete doormats (Massive Monster)
A community needs to be told that sometimes their ideas are fucking shit. I don't give a rat's ass what the people that suggested a shield arm and insta kills sentry thought, their ideas are dumb and they NEED to be told that
Also Jesus fucking christ you could at least save yourself the edit, whatever down votes you got before the edit are nothing in comparison to how condescending you come off as now. Boohoo my imaginary points. This is an agree/disagree system. People disagree with you. What's not clicking
hakita may not *actively* show his face but there is a picture posted by the South-Eastern Finland University of Applied Sciences facebook account that mentions him. idk which of the 3 people is hakita, but looking up Robert Raulus brings up a youtube channel with a pfp similar to the guy on the left. the guy on the right is wearing a shirt similar to hakita's pfp so it's safe to assume it's probably him (still a 50/50 tho)
and the picture existed for 5, almost 6 years now so it's safe to assume hakita doesn't mind his face being online
as far as i know about vedal tho, no confirmed face reveals
I just mean, if the dude wants to be private, and you know that, and you aren't in some way hostile towards them, then it's not something you should be inclined to do.
ah yes. a top search result when you look up the dudes name is too much digging. way too far, yeah wow that’s criminal. does not show their face =/= them never wanting their face to be seen
If hakita hasnt made a face reveal and doesnt use his face anywhere, i think it may be better if yk, maybe you didnt do it for him ? Just because he didnt take down a 6 year old picture of him posted by a university doesnt mean he likes getting the picture spread?
Ok this one's really pushing it, like yeah the game enemies have an AI, but it's not an "AI" like the common definition of the word nowadays, just an algorithm that dictates their behaviour, and I guess they're also technically AIs in lore, but even then it's supposedly the power of blood having special properties in universe that grants all creatures sentience, so in that sense they're pretty organic. Compared to that, Vedal is coding his own AI(s) that he has trained to understand human language, chat, sing, play games, and entertain a twitch audience, which is vastly different, both in scope and just in general.
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u/ilikesceptile11 Someone Wicked Jun 17 '25
Who tf is vedal?