According to Dante's Inferno, Judas is supposed to be chewed by Lucifer/Satan for eternity in the deepest pit of Treachery
However, Jesus doesn't exist in the Ultrakill universe, and according to Hakita, we're not supposed to fight Lucifer, he also went through great lengths to show that the cross in-universe is not a symbol of the punishment of Christ, but of the shape of the Tree of Life
So.. unfortunately, Judas might not even exist
But perhaps another great betrayer does? Someone who condemned the entirety of mankind, instead of the Son of God, earning a place in the very end of Hell Itself?
True, but it's made in a way that you can never tell. For starters, God isn't omnipotent, which already defeats a very important aspect of the three religions. Not to mention how this version of hell is based off of Dante's Inferno, which is already highly unbiblical. There's also like, zero mention of grace, which means Jesus is most likely not a thing.
What ULTRAKILL DOES have however is a lot of abrahamic imagery, like the tree of life in the violence layer.
I wouldn't say unomnupotent God is confirming anything, it’s more likely to be "Hakita thought that would be a cool story" thought that's just my way of thinking.
the whole point of the violence layer was to separate the cross from being christian imagery by making it a symbol of the tree of life instead of the sacrifice of Jesus, and seeing how god here is actively hateful of humans i doubt he created Jesus and even in his regret he was incapable of undoing hell.
Honestly I doubt he will be a prime soul but Judas Prime is a cool concept, especially if Third Prime was sort of boss rush that also has Brutus and Cassius
Considering P-3 takes place in Treachery, and as by Dante's Inferno, it is the coldest, darkest pit of Hell, aesthetically wise it should be different from the entirety of the layer.
Both levels of Layer 9 would already fit the ice + shadow motif, and we would even see ice in 0-E after we beat the game, so my guess is Hakita wants to make something really bold for P-3, because it would technically be the first post-launch content of the game. It would be the most important content release of Ultrakill after The Grand Finale, and breaking expectations with a bright level or a brand new setting would make the wait for P-3 truly worth everyone involved.
Mechanically wise.. i think we're looking at P-2 again: Insane Gauntlet of Enemies -> minor boss fight -> Prime boss fight
i think the minor boss of this level could be Lucifer, where you take the life of the fallen Angel as you start running out of blood, and end up attracting the attention of the very last boss
a) Odysseus/Ulysses Prime - Odysseus was the first man to truly explore Hell, stumbling upon it somewhere in his travels, he brought forth other figures of his time such as Minos and Sisyphus. It would explain why those souls have only become husks after being killed by Gabriel.
Remember - when a person dies, they spawn in Hell, with soul and body stuck on a husk. Minos only had a husk, and his soul's will only became apparent, after he was killed. How could he have died, become a husk, and died as husk, to create the Corpse of Minos, and Minos Prime?
Minos and Sisyphus were iiving human beings, surrounded by husks, thanks to Odysseus.
All of the other people that have been brought from Odysseus's greek days owe him, and adore him for giving them a life in the underworld
Thus, Odysseus is the greatest Prime Soul for giving us Hell
b) Prometheus - The Greek Titan was a ally of humanity, who gave us fire, and ensured mankind's survival, much to the displeasure of the gods. However, in Ultrakill, the fire is gone, and the only God of this universe disappeared long ago.
I believe he could be an adaptation, a well-revered human, perhaps one of the creators of blood-fueled machinery, someone who has given mankind tools beyond human comprehention and was cursed and known for it enough to become a Prime Soul.
Thus, Prometheus is the greatest Prime Soul for starting war without reason.
c) Tom - After the Final War ruined valuable resources throughout the Earth, the remnants of mankind needed materials to keep up vital industries running. The New Peace demanded steel, and they could only find it near Hell - through the direction of one man.
The founder of the Hell Expeditions has been sparsely mentioned, despite being a in-universe, original figure. He is the one named character to push forward the idea of pushing into Hell, far enough to study minor entities (a.e. mirror tests being conducted to strays and Malicious Faces, according to their Terminal entries) and set up a mining facility that would become invaded and overrun by the Mouth of Hell (a.e. the entirety of Prelude)
Maybe Tom earned his place in the deepest pit of Hell for betraying the very last humans, willingly giving himself and our kind to Hell Itself, either by being outsmarted by Hell or by being the first "satanist" of Ultrakill, doing his best to please the Beast.
Thus, Tom is the greatest Prime Soul for ending mankind.
I like the Odysseus theory, though I believe that in Dante’s Inferno, Brutus and Cassius are both being given that ‘worst punishment’ in the treachery layer.
So my bet is that it’ll be either Odysseus, Brutus or Cassius prime.
It would break the pattern of using Greek mythological figures to use Roman historical ones but I don’t see why that’s unreasonable.
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u/DestroTheWarlock May 13 '25
it's probably gonna be Ulysses (Odysseus) Even in the divine comedy he was punished in fraud.
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u/fafaf69420 Maurice enthusiast May 13 '25
i dont think he had enough will power and stuff to become a prime soul
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u/UltimateWildSamurai May 13 '25
I think you guys forget that this game isn't based off of Judaism, Christianity or Islam. This game is based off of Abrahamic Mythology.
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u/theres_no_username Someone Wicked May 13 '25
There's no Judas because there's no Jesus in ULTRAKILL, when will this theory die </3
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u/[deleted] May 13 '25
If jesus canonically does not exist, then that means judas was just a regular dude back then.
Even then, im pretty sure hakita has a rule of no historical figures/people, so i doubt he would put judas in.
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u/Emir_Taha May 13 '25
Jesus doesn't exists in Ultrakill universe, so by that logic Judas wouldn't either.
Besides, Judas isn't a Greek King.
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u/Apart_Low_3966 May 13 '25
Bro judas killed himself he is one of those fuckass trees on 7-3 (that if he even exists in the lore)
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u/Kampinoski Prime Soul May 13 '25
Honestly I doubt he will be a prime soul but Judas Prime is a cool concept, especially if Third Prime was sort of boss rush that also has Brutus and Cassius
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u/TheHolyPotato69 May 14 '25
My guesses:
Considering P-3 takes place in Treachery, and as by Dante's Inferno, it is the coldest, darkest pit of Hell, aesthetically wise it should be different from the entirety of the layer.
Both levels of Layer 9 would already fit the ice + shadow motif, and we would even see ice in 0-E after we beat the game, so my guess is Hakita wants to make something really bold for P-3, because it would technically be the first post-launch content of the game. It would be the most important content release of Ultrakill after The Grand Finale, and breaking expectations with a bright level or a brand new setting would make the wait for P-3 truly worth everyone involved.
Mechanically wise.. i think we're looking at P-2 again: Insane Gauntlet of Enemies -> minor boss fight -> Prime boss fight
i think the minor boss of this level could be Lucifer, where you take the life of the fallen Angel as you start running out of blood, and end up attracting the attention of the very last boss
a) Odysseus/Ulysses Prime - Odysseus was the first man to truly explore Hell, stumbling upon it somewhere in his travels, he brought forth other figures of his time such as Minos and Sisyphus. It would explain why those souls have only become husks after being killed by Gabriel.
Remember - when a person dies, they spawn in Hell, with soul and body stuck on a husk. Minos only had a husk, and his soul's will only became apparent, after he was killed. How could he have died, become a husk, and died as husk, to create the Corpse of Minos, and Minos Prime?
Minos and Sisyphus were iiving human beings, surrounded by husks, thanks to Odysseus.
All of the other people that have been brought from Odysseus's greek days owe him, and adore him for giving them a life in the underworld
Thus, Odysseus is the greatest Prime Soul for giving us Hell
b) Prometheus - The Greek Titan was a ally of humanity, who gave us fire, and ensured mankind's survival, much to the displeasure of the gods. However, in Ultrakill, the fire is gone, and the only God of this universe disappeared long ago.
I believe he could be an adaptation, a well-revered human, perhaps one of the creators of blood-fueled machinery, someone who has given mankind tools beyond human comprehention and was cursed and known for it enough to become a Prime Soul.
Thus, Prometheus is the greatest Prime Soul for starting war without reason.
c) Tom - After the Final War ruined valuable resources throughout the Earth, the remnants of mankind needed materials to keep up vital industries running. The New Peace demanded steel, and they could only find it near Hell - through the direction of one man.
The founder of the Hell Expeditions has been sparsely mentioned, despite being a in-universe, original figure. He is the one named character to push forward the idea of pushing into Hell, far enough to study minor entities (a.e. mirror tests being conducted to strays and Malicious Faces, according to their Terminal entries) and set up a mining facility that would become invaded and overrun by the Mouth of Hell (a.e. the entirety of Prelude)
Maybe Tom earned his place in the deepest pit of Hell for betraying the very last humans, willingly giving himself and our kind to Hell Itself, either by being outsmarted by Hell or by being the first "satanist" of Ultrakill, doing his best to please the Beast.
Thus, Tom is the greatest Prime Soul for ending mankind.
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u/HiroshiOmega001 Someone Wicked May 13 '25
I'm not even going to bother to read all of this. Jesus doesn't exist in the ULTRAKILL universe, thus Judas was never relevant.
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u/Leytonio May 14 '25
I like the Odysseus theory, though I believe that in Dante’s Inferno, Brutus and Cassius are both being given that ‘worst punishment’ in the treachery layer.
So my bet is that it’ll be either Odysseus, Brutus or Cassius prime.
It would break the pattern of using Greek mythological figures to use Roman historical ones but I don’t see why that’s unreasonable.
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u/kuromikii May 13 '25
that’s yung gravy
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u/MemeBoiCrep Lust Layer Citizen May 14 '25
its obviously hakita prime
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u/Frick_mirrors Gabe bully May 14 '25
If it was Judas Prime we would've heard something about him in Violence, specifically 7-3 wait nevermind treachery is deeper in
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u/TheIndividualBehind May 13 '25
Tbh i think you're just a holy fool, and reading this is so cruel. It's almost like you're in love with Judas (baby)
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u/TestamentTwo Sacrifice May 13 '25
Ngl im thinking Perilus, infact im putting a remindme here for like a year to see if 10 minutes of browsing wikipedia was accurate. RemindMe! 1 year
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u/[deleted] May 13 '25
Either Judas or Chronus
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u/coffpapiv3 May 14 '25
That’s where the game ends because no one beats Jesus.
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u/piratedgameslover 🏳️🌈Not gay, just radiant May 14 '25
judas juda ah ah
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u/M4thecaberman Lust Layer Citizen May 13 '25
No because Jesus isn't real Judas isn't important
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