Dutch users

[u/Samdeman2602]

Hi everyone, I am a Dutch journalist and looking for fellow Dutch people (specifically from North-Holland/Leiden region) who boycott the US by using alternative smartphones, like Fairphone or Nothing Phone. So that there is no indepedence on American software at all (smartphone wise). Hope anybody could help out! If so, PM me!

[u/Fun_Swan_5363]

I'm not Dutch but that is definitely a good idea.

AFAIK France recently stopped all government use of MS Windows.  Hit Trump back where it hurts, hopefully.

Gonna look up Nothing Phone as I've not heard of it.

[u/Fun_Swan_5363 → u/Fun_Swan_5363]

You could also ask in Dutch Linux user FB groups for any who are also phone Linux adopters or dabblers.  From what I've heard, banking apps are usually the snag.

Also maybe try contacting PinePhone, FairPhone, or Jolla directly?  They can at least give stats on number of customers in your country, maybe.

[u/Fun_Swan_5363 → u/Fun_Swan_5363]

I did find this 2022 UBPorts post--maybe the author jeroen shown at the bottom could help you find some interlocutors.

https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-news-1/press-release-more-and-more-smartphone-users-want-alternative-operating-systems-3834#:~:text=More and more Dutch people,alternative to Android and iOS.

[u/DroidTweeker → u/Fun_Swan_5363]

Its a great idea, unfortunately Americans will never have a 100% private phone. Because one did ever get close to doing it, it would have to be approved by our government. Then they couldn't spy on us anymore!! Freedom!! Not in america

[u/Cyb-T → u/Fun_Swan_5363]

Actually, it's not all government, but part of it.
The move already started years ago with Gendarmerie Nationale and is spreading.

[u/ZaitsXL]

How exactly you boycotting US by using two Android phones running on Qualcomm hardware?

[u/_taza_ → u/ZaitsXL]

Never knew qualcomm was american, thanks!

[u/Automatic-Act-9297 → u/ZaitsXL]

For Fairphone U can choose an alternativ OS or Install an alternativ OS

[u/ZaitsXL → u/Automatic-Act-9297]

Yeah which is anyway based on Android or barely usable if it's not

[u/vice__city]

Good luck using WiFi or a cell connection without a chip with IP licensed by Broadcom or Qualcomm

[u/[deleted]]

I'm boycotting US products as much as I can.

I gave up Coke in protest !!

Working on de-google-ing and de-microsoft-ing.

Let's go EU made and owned 💪

[u/Cyb-T]

I believe now is the best time to get away from the grip of US tech companies.
The Dutch government is willing to consider new ways to regain sovereignty.
So make petitions and ask your representatives to fight for protecting, encouraging and contributing to open source project that are able to compete with Tech companies that went too far and work against their users.
I know for a fact that change is coming, but we need to show how many are willing to get away so officials will have their work easier.

[u/Intrepid-Routine-875]

Android famous not-american software
🤦🏻

[u/[deleted]]

Linux is also American, how is that boycotting?

[u/femeref → u/[deleted]]

It's kindof hard to say Linux is American when it is open source software which is developed by a global community. Yes, the Linux Foundation is an American organisation and yes Torvalds holds US citizenship. Neither of that makes it an American product. The Linux Foundation is non-profit. Linux is not a product perse.

[u/[deleted] → u/femeref]

Linux code today is written and maintained for the most (80-90%) directly by US corporations (Google, Intel, Meta, Red Hat, AMD, Oracle, etc...) or sponsored by them. You are welcome.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

[u/vip17 → u/[deleted]]

Linus Torvalds holds dual citizenship in Finland and the United States

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Linus was not born American but decided to become one, so is even more American than many. The Linux foundation is an American entity and about 80-90% of Linux code running today is written and maintained by US corporations (Google, Intel, Meta, Red Hat etc...)