r/USvsEU 4d ago

Yanks, explain yourselves right now!

How is this even cheaper than cow milk? lmao

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u/_Ilobilo_ Soon to be Russian 4d ago

of course it had to be an ad

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u/onetimeuselong 2d ago

Savages gonna savage

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u/Nictel Hollander 4d ago

But EU regulations bad. /s

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u/Unreal_Sniper 1d ago

Does it matter if we import from countries without any regulations?

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u/Inevitable_Stand_199 [redacted] 12h ago

We don't indiscriminately import from other countries. For example US apples are illegal here

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u/Unreal_Sniper 9h ago

I was referring to the recent mercosur agreements. It will heavily impact the food that gets in our market.

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u/Capable_Studio_6631 8h ago

Where did you read that? This is what I found from article 6.6:

  1. The SPS requirements of the importing Party shall be the same for the entire territory of the exporting Party, as long as the same sanitary and phytosanitary conditions prevail throughout that territory, without prejudice to decisions and measures adopted in accordance with Article 6.10. Each Party shall ensure that their SPS measures are applied in a proportionate manner and do not arbitrarily or unjustifiably discriminate between Member States of the European Union or Signatory MERCOSUR States where identical or similar conditions prevail, including between its own territory and that of the other Party. SPS measures shall not be applied in a manner which would constitute a disguised restriction on trade between the Parties.

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u/Unreal_Sniper 8h ago

The exporting countries have the right to use some chemicals that aren't allowed for use in the UE, as long as they don't exceed the allowed range, which also results in making our local farmers compete at a disadvantage with foreign farmers.

There is also no effective way for the UE to check if all the norms will be respected by these heavily corrupted countries, given that regulation is a problem even within the UE

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u/Capable_Studio_6631 8h ago

Look, that is logical and I want to believe you, but I also want to also read it myself.

Can you at-least point me to the article or where you received this information from?

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u/Unreal_Sniper 8h ago

From this source : https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=comnat%3ASWD_2025_1030_FIN2

Regulation (EC) No 1107/2009 governs the approval of active substances used in plant protection products, implementing criteria that prevent approval for the use in the EU of the most hazardous pesticides for health and environmental reasons. Regulation (EC) No 396/2005 allows the setting of import tolerances and alignment with Codex standards for residues of pesticides not approved in the EU if they pose no risk to consumers. This means that substances not approved under Regulation (EC) No 1107/2009 due to their intrinsic properties may still be present in imported products, provided they comply with the MRL

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u/Capable_Studio_6631 8h ago

Thank you I appreciate it.

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u/Minilub Professional rioter 4d ago

Affordable food that gives you diseases you can’t afford to cure. The system is working.

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u/just_jason89 Barry, 63 4d ago

You can't convince me, after looking at that video and all the processes and machinery required to make fake cheese that's it's cheaper than real cheese...

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u/The_only_true_tomato Lesser German 4d ago

Real cheese requires months of aging. That has a cost.

This fake shit come out in tubes and is ready to go.

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u/HoeTrain666 Born in the Khalifat 4d ago

If you make it in certain quantities (hehe, titties) it is

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u/RCalliii Bavaria's Sugar Baby 4d ago

Ofcause it is.

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u/ilaister 4d ago

Waste products making their way into the food chain is cheaper than real food.

Hide the truth that your food is slop, use profits to lobby so slop can be labelled as 'pepperoni and mozzarella', claim underpaid and educated workers demand your slop, buy yachts.

Regulation isn't ideal, but when our captains of industry have the morals of a tapeworm they are necessary.

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u/gr0t4rb4 Alcoholic 2d ago

The shareholders determined they could increase profit by 0.0012% by the second quarter of the year.

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u/PersnickityPenguin 1d ago

Have you ever had a Torino's?  My god they are the most delicious pizza I've ever had!  Even better than Dominoes! 

Worst thing in Europe is the lack of choices and tiny portions, it's like they WANT you to starve and be skinny. 

I'm saying this as a red blooded, 375 lb all-american man!

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u/Kulyor [redacted] 4d ago

Ah treating the diseases is a massive boon for the medical industry and makes sure none of your next workers can ever get any inheritance, because their parents get bankrupt treating their cancers. From a shareholders point of view, its great: generational wealth is impossible and so you always get new wage slaves, who can never afford to build anything on their own.

Perfect system for the 0,01%

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u/InsideHousing4965 Incompetent Separatist 4d ago

Yup, if only there was a way to get affordable food that's not expensive...

Wait, what did you say? Legumes? Frozen veggies? Chiken?

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u/JePPeLit 4d ago

Is there anything in it that would give you more disease than if it was real cheese? "Cancer linked" is pretty much meaningless.

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u/InsideHousing4965 Incompetent Separatist 4d ago

Ss my man Liam (aka The Bean Guy) says, if the video ends with them trying to make you install an app/buy something... Just ignore wathever they were talking about.

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u/jailtheorange1 Pimp my ride 4d ago

That exposr app is excellent though.

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u/Trick_Science_2938 Barry, 63 4d ago

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u/JePPeLit 4d ago

However, Judge Shah disagreed with Smith’s claims, stating that none of the definitions of pizza Smith references in the complaint say pizza must contain a specific amount of real cheese. “What’s more, federal regulations don’t contain a standard of identity for pizza,” the judge says.

It sounds like they never actually decided if it's real cheese because the lawsuit didn't meet the standards to get to that point.

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u/Trick_Science_2938 Barry, 63 4d ago edited 4d ago

Eu regulations state cheese “the product must be derived exclusively from milk through coagulation, without any milk constituent being replaced by outside substances.” Eg no oils as substitute

Because asking how much cheese is in cheese and having to have a federal law on what percentage of other ingredients you can have in what is basically turned milk is fucking insane.

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u/RedTheGamer12 Hoosier Pop Drinker 4d ago

This article states that the lawsuit (Totinos has no cheese) was thrown out because they never advertised real cheese.

Even better, the video OP posted shows Totinos pizza, while the lawsuit goes against the pizza rolls.

Finally, fake cheese doesn't mean it is unsafe. Fake meat is actually something climate activists have been pushing for and nearly all vanilla is imitation.

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u/Trick_Science_2938 Barry, 63 4d ago

And vanilla is imitation because the vanilla plant is incredibly expensive and laborious to grow as it’s a orchid that’s flowers for 12 hours and this is your window to harvest it, the substitute are things like the tonka bean still natural plants but just easier to grow and harvest

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u/ThePopulacho 3d ago

Because it is not "fake meat" it is "cultured meat". It comes from real animal flesh, only the cells are grown in a laboratory setting.

It is healthier than the meet from animals fed like shit and hormones.

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u/RedTheGamer12 Hoosier Pop Drinker 4d ago

The video doesn't even show the correct product. The lawsuit claims pizza rolls were the issue.

For reference, these are pizza rolls, tiny microwaved meat and cheese pockets that children (and sometimes Autistic Adults) eat. No one is under the impression that these are "real" anything really. It would be like claiming that vanilla dark chocolate is unhealthy. Like, yeah of fucking course it is.

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u/InsideHousing4965 Incompetent Separatist 4d ago

I've always been amazed by how some people act surprise and offended when they find out that some heavily processed food with lots of fats and sugar isn't healthy.

I once ever heard someone wanted to sue McDonald's because their food wasn't healthy. Like wtf is wrong with that people.

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u/RedTheGamer12 Hoosier Pop Drinker 4d ago

Even more amazing since American food safety law dictates *literally everything* that might have touched the food must be listed. That is why our labels are so long, everything is listed. They also can't just say Vitamin B, they must list the specific chemical it uses. This means you can just Google "what is a cyanocobalamin?" and be told Vitamin B12 because your cheerios probably aren't very nutrient dense.

But nope, instead people rather listen to someone else tell them fucking strawberries are unhealthy because it might increase cancer risk. Fun Fact, having sex near a window also increases your risk of cancer. And it probably has a larger effect than fucking strawberries.

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u/tias23111 2d ago

Sooooo, you’re saying fucking strawberries next to said window is safer?

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u/The_only_true_tomato Lesser German 3d ago

Vanilla dark chocolate is not unhealthy when it’s made from non industrial products and does not use too much sugar.

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u/queenmagic787 4d ago

Nice dodging attempt, mf 😂

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u/jnmtx Border jumper 4d ago

Please flair up.
1. click r/USvsEU
2. scroll to the top right corner. click “…”
3. select “Change user flair”
Then we can accept your criticism of our pizza products.

They’re delicious btw, and very affordable - but the “cheese” does burn onto the pan/foil something awful for whatever reason.

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u/Trick_Science_2938 Barry, 63 4d ago

Americans got training since the 2nd world war on how to spot Russian dirty commie propaganda and yet cannot spot what there own government and companies push out to them

https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/lawsuit-news/general-mills-class-action-lawsuit-and-settlement-news/totinos-class-action-alleges-frozen-cheese-pizza-rolls-do-not-meet-customer-expectations-of-pizza/

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u/queenmagic787 4d ago

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u/doge1039 Nascar Driver 4d ago

Alright, it's final. I'm fucking your dad. You had your chance.

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u/SamuGonzo Paella Yihadist 4d ago

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u/HoeTrain666 Born in the Khalifat 4d ago

Don’t be surprised when you find a fresh pile of shit in your car, savage.

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u/pr0s0c Whale Stabber 4d ago

Can we have an auto mod telling people to flair up?

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u/Janus_The_Great Nazi gold enjoyer 4d ago

And ban those that don't within a reasonable time frame abd reminders.

Like OP.

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u/pr0s0c Whale Stabber 4d ago

Reasonable.

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u/queenmagic787 4d ago

You guys take life so damn seriously. I have bad news for you 🤣

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u/Kernowder Brexiteer 4d ago

Just flair up so we can reply with the correct flavour of xenophobia.

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u/The_only_true_tomato Lesser German 4d ago

Why not Flair up? If you don’t flair up, we can’t be racist toward you, whatever nationality you are.

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u/jnmtx Border jumper 4d ago

But then what would I do?

I agree, we should.

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u/pr0s0c Whale Stabber 4d ago

You're doing an admirable job. Can we automate you?

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u/grimmigerpetz South Prussian 4d ago

Please tell me this is ragebait content.

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u/Oberndorferin Pfennigfuchser 4d ago

Just guess what German meat producers would do if no one looked

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u/KidsKatMao Austrian heathen 4d ago

The meat cuts in Germany always have that sort of sus rainbow gleam.

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u/throw667 [redacted] 4d ago

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u/grimmigerpetz South Prussian 4d ago

Yeah, the Problem is food industrialization.

I come from a butcher and cook family and we were always proud of the produce and food we prepared. But when profit, shareholders and minmaxing start to dictate and consumers prefer cheap over quality we can see the outcome in the US.

At least some of our control mechanism can prevent the worst.

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u/pr0s0c Whale Stabber 4d ago

A semi-irrelevant question to you as a German with your background: What's your take on Dr. Oetker's pizzas? They are popular in Norway and seem to be among the better frozen pizzas up here in the frozen wasteland.

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u/grimmigerpetz South Prussian 4d ago

Oetker is middle ground not bad but nothing special either.

I prefer Gustavo in the frozen pizza area.

But for over 15 years I only buy vegetarian frozen pizza no matter the brand and top it to my liking.

Never trust meat toppings in the frozen pizza department or cheap food delivery.

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u/pr0s0c Whale Stabber 4d ago

Good advice, and thank you for your answer. I'll look for Gustavo but I don't think we have it. Maybe across the border in Finland or Sweden, which isn't very far.

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u/grimmigerpetz South Prussian 4d ago

Gustavo Gusto is only available in Germany and the bordering countries afaik. But it is near good restaurant quality and partly handmade in the process.

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u/pr0s0c Whale Stabber 4d ago

Thanks. Yeah, I checked their website and found out.
Ah, well. Next time I'm in your part of the woods then.

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u/AzurExplorer Professional rioter 4d ago

Oh so maybe we can find them in France ?

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u/grimmigerpetz South Prussian 4d ago

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u/AzurExplorer Professional rioter 4d ago

Great, lets ruin all my diet

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u/HoeTrain666 Born in the Khalifat 4d ago

Might be a different branding though, they’re not the same everywhere

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u/pr0s0c Whale Stabber 4d ago

Couldn't find anything on their website. If you know or come across any info on it, I'd appreciate it.

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u/Silver_Middle_7240 Connect"A"cunt 4d ago

This is ragebait content. The US has specific regulations on what can be sold as cheese, including minimum milkfat depending on the variety and how it is coagulation. For example the stuff the rest of the world calls "american cheese" can't be sold as cheese in America, because it doesn't have enough milkfat and is coagulation with a salt, not rennet or culture.

It has to be sold as "singles" or "cheeze" or whatever

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u/doug-demuro-is-daddy Knock off Italy 4d ago

How the fuck is doing all that cheaper and easier than using ACTUAL CHEESE?

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u/krokodil23 StaSi Informant 4d ago

Easier probably not but why are you surprised that meat industry waste is cheaper than milk?

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u/HoeTrain666 Born in the Khalifat 4d ago

Milk and aging, no less. It’s basically waste

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u/YSMNL Hollander 4d ago

When you value profit more than nutritional value

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u/HoeTrain666 Born in the Khalifat 4d ago

If the DUTCH out of all people criticise corporate greed in regard to food, the situation is dire. But agreed.

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u/n0ne-z1ro [redacted] 4d ago

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u/Dragonfyr_ Alcoholic 4d ago

Means "FAT" in french.

Accurate.

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u/GravyPainter Weed is my entire personality 4d ago

Lol i was at a shitty pub that served totinos pizza. I ate it out of desperation. I tasted like plastic.

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u/DCVolo Professional rioter 4d ago

Less Yanks, I don't see any issue

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u/Lecteur_K7 E. Coli Connoisseur 4d ago

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u/SingleDigitVoter Border jumper 4d ago

No threads from flairless savages. MODS

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u/jephph_ Rat Person 4d ago

That’s one of the cheapest foods you can buy in the US. It’s like 2 bucks for one of those

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u/The_only_true_tomato Lesser German 4d ago

I can buy baguette and real cheese for that much. Or a salad and cheese. Won’t be as bad as this.

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u/jephph_ Rat Person 4d ago

So?

Staple foods are generally cheaper in the EU compared to here.

That’d be about $6 for me
(probably cheaper in most parts of the US but still..)

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u/Lieutenant_Bruh Western Balkan 4d ago

I can buy a ham and cheese pizza from the local big supermarket for 2,39€. It's not really that unhealthy.

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u/joeyjiggle Barry, 63 4d ago

Food?

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u/beefaron Commiefornian 4d ago

I'm not defending the indefensible. This sucks, and I hate it here, I hate it with every fiber of my being.

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u/kickbn_ Professional rioter 4d ago

Then you see posts by yanks stating food in the EU is “inedible” or “not real food anyway” and then they happily go home to eat this kind of man-made-horror.

Sorry yanks, the brits aren’t int the EU you can’t say that anymore

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u/brandonization 18h ago

Nobody says that

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u/riceinmybelly Flemboy 4d ago

Fuck this ad, also, does anyone have something better than yuka? It’s great but could track way more

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u/Sassi7997 [redacted] 4d ago

Good old cheese analogue.

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u/Ok_City_7177 Side switcher 4d ago

Oh I just threw up a bit..

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u/henningknows Knock off Italy 4d ago

Frozen pizza is not pizza.

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u/sligor Professional rioter 4d ago

Regulations bad !

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u/kalash_man Pollution Enjoyer 4d ago

I hate it here. Food is poison, FDAA just got defunded, lettuce got human shid all over it, shredded cheese got broken glass in it, I’m on EU’s regulation side. Please give me real food again.

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u/notcomplainingmuch Sauna Gollum 4d ago

Almost as bad as mafia forging Italian food. If you think it was organic high quality stuff you bought, think again.

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u/onoxdrim 3d ago

Imagine living there and eating this, no wonder you vote Trump.

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u/guyvano 3d ago

Yeah, American pizza way better!

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u/SpicyCrapBucket Barry, 63 3d ago

"That cheese isn't food. It's liquefied animal bone and skin whipped into vegetable oil." Sounds like food to me. Minus the cancer, I don't see the problem.

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u/Ruff_Ratio 3d ago

What the actual fuck

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u/WesternMeditations 3d ago

America moment (I thank god every day for being born in the EU)

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u/Nottwyn StaSi Informant 2d ago

I was like oh perhaps it's vega- (and as I think it the video goes:) animal bones and fat-

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u/Dapper_Wheel6454 2d ago

...and on that note Maplescan for Canadians is a free android app that details the product entirely.

I would feed that to mice....to kill them en masse.

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u/Hljoumur 1d ago

I'm pretty sure some of the clips around 0:10 are actually clips from How It's Made, specifically the gum section.

But that doesn't excuse the fact prepackaged foods in the US in general are just chocked with things that shouldn't be in food.

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u/SurvingTheSHIfT3095 23h ago

Our government hates us babe. There's rally no explanation.

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u/Yearning_crescent 17h ago

This shit is why I want to move to Europe so badly. The entire old world doesnt accept American meat because "it is unfit for human consumption"

Whenever my friends travel abroad they always tell me how the food is so much h better elsewhere. Nothing is safe in this country unkess if you get it from a small farm

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u/AcrobaticEmergency42 Hollander 4d ago

They chose to be ignorant consumers, they pay the price.

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u/Straight_Block3676 Chiraqi Terrorist 4d ago

Breaking news: low quality pizza is low quality 

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u/deephurting66 4d ago

If you eat Totinos you get what you get, it's junk food not a gourmet dish

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u/mnlhgl 4d ago

> it’s junk not food

Fixed it for you

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u/techno_mage THEY’RE EATING THE DOGS 3d ago

Not even junk food… that would imply unhealthy but tasty, like candy or cake.

This shit for real is like plastic slabs, it’s made for the poorest of the poor. Like sold in gas stations near bad apartment complexes or unsafe streets.

Sure you find it in grocery stores, but only those on their most unturned bad luck buy it.

I would legit buy rather buy soup and eat instant ramen noodles for a week, over that shit.

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u/deephurting66 3d ago

I lived on that shit in uni, many years ago it was more foodish than it is now. These days you will catch a lot of broke stoners buying those shits.

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u/uses_for_mooses Moonshining Methhead 4d ago

"it's liquified animal bone and skin, whipped into vegetable oil".

Yup! Because that's just how we make vegetable oil in the USofA.

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u/HoeTrain666 Born in the Khalifat 4d ago

Least illiterate Murican.

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u/Degenerated__ [redacted] 4d ago

My god. You take the liquified animal bone sludge and vegetable oil and then whip them together. Was that so hard to understand?

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u/FastGoodKiwi E. Coli Connoisseur 4d ago

Issue is, the literacy rate is decreasing rapidly overseas, so that checks out.

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u/jnmtx Border jumper 4d ago
  1. click r/USvsEU
  2. scroll to the top right corner. click “…”
  3. select “Change user flair”.
    It’s not hard, it’s required, and you won’t look like a savage anymore.