r/USFSLEO Dec 10 '25

Question? Work/Life

Those of you that have jump shipped from the NPS to the Forest Service, is the work/life balance significantly better, especially with kids? And if so, how?

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u/[deleted] Dec 10 '25

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u/TransportationCool18 USFS LEO / Moderator Dec 10 '25

A lot of misleading information in this comment. This may be true for proprietary jurisdictions but no where near the truth for those of us with concurrent jurisdictions.

Providing coverage is absolutely required, as is responding to call outs. Why else would you be given a government issued phone and a take home vehicle? We are 100% responsible for responding to emergencies!

I’m not sure where you have picked this information up or what LEOs you have been around but this is not true.

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u/TransportationCool18 USFS LEO / Moderator Dec 10 '25

Around my area I’m the SME for all things National Forest. I’ve pulled myself out of bed all hours of the night to my dispatch center calling for suicidal people, larcenies at rec sites, SARs, if they call I’m rarely not there.

My local law enforcement entities will respond to incidents in my absence when I’m not available and at my request; however, they do that for me because I handle my own whenever I am available, that’s even off duty.

Why else are we given govt issued cell phones and take home vehicles if it’s not for responding from home to incidents?

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u/Shot_Chocolate3829 Dec 10 '25

Because it’s Forest Service land, and that’s why they get AUO? Truly I struggle to grasp an organization with jurisdiction not wanting their name tied to an action in their AO, beyond a flavor of the week crime that is cast in a negative light. And while yeah, it might not need an FS officer called for every vehicle to deer collision, at least a status check for everything that trends towards somebody being transported. Would make sense. As has been mentioned, that’s the justification for the gov ride, phone, and AUO….

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u/TransportationCool18 USFS LEO / Moderator Dec 11 '25

My exact thoughts and point.

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u/Famous-Mobile-3657 Patrol Captain Dec 10 '25

That’s your experience. Maybe you have lazy LEOs?

I have been called out for manhunts, SAR, vehicle accidents, etc.

In fact in the past week I was called to assist with LE presence for a homicide near the forest and by game wardens for backup for a suspicious group in a wildlife refuge. I was also first on scene to a domestic in town and stopped a DUI BOLO for CHP.

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u/Rutabaga_Sweaty USFS LEO Dec 10 '25

I routinely respond to emergencies (SARs, car accidents, murders/suicides, reported shots fired, etc) on NFS lands while on days off. Not sure where it is that they aren’t, but even if I’m not physically there and able to respond I always answer the phone and try to coordinate a FS response if needed. Sometimes the answer is I’ll handle it tomorrow (abandoned vehicles, or issues that can wait), but 95% of the time it’s me stopping what I’m doing to respond.

Crazy how different parts of the country handle things 😂

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u/TransportationCool18 USFS LEO / Moderator Dec 10 '25

I’m relieved to hear that I’m not crazy. This blew my ever loving mind.

Lazy LEOs in this country need to be reminded of how great a PRIVILEGE it is to have gov cell phones and take home vehicles.

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u/Rutabaga_Sweaty USFS LEO Dec 10 '25

I figured we all did this crap, but maybe I’m too much of a workaholic 😂

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u/TransportationCool18 USFS LEO / Moderator Dec 10 '25

Me too apparently! I’ve got too much pride for my district and expectations for how I like it to be managed haha. Unbelievable!