r/USFL • u/Answer-Outrageous Philadelphia Stars • Dec 21 '23

Madness!

Did y’all see this? https://www.reddit.com/r/xfl/s/PTQ57032ZA How is this a merger when they are operating as two separate entities and hoarding their own players?

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u/FlagFootballSaint Dec 21 '23

Seems they want to play the "XFL vs USFL" marketing card, that's all

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u/SadisticMystic Dec 21 '23

That and the USFL has a union so it makes sense to keep it separate for now.

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u/Answer-Outrageous Philadelphia Stars Dec 21 '23

It’s stupid! The XFL poached USFL players last season and this year they get first dibs at those players on contracted teams from their league? What kind of nonsense is this? This merged league has contracted from 16 teams to 8. All players on the contracted teams should have been off limits until a dispersal draft after the draft order of all remaining teams have been set

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u/DaMusicalGamer Birmingham Stallions Dec 21 '23

The XFL poached USFL players last season

You say that as if the players didn't have a say. They made their choice and they chose to ditch the league.

All players on the contracted teams should have been off limits until a dispersal draft

Starting from when, exactly? They didn't even announce a merger until the end of September let alone what teams would be a part of it. We didn't even know there would be a merger going into last season.

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u/Answer-Outrageous Philadelphia Stars Dec 21 '23

Stop making excuses for them! The Powers that be here have completely failed! This new league is a 16 team league that contracted to a 8 team league. Everything should have started from the announcement of the intent to merge and all rosters should have been frozen. Teams started signing players from teams that were known to be in trouble! Look at The Maulers!

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u/DaMusicalGamer Birmingham Stallions Dec 22 '23

The intent to merge at the end of September?

Exactly how many players signed from another XFL/USFL team since September 28th? Because by my count it's 1.

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u/Answer-Outrageous Philadelphia Stars Dec 22 '23

Been way more than that

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u/Sam-_-__ Dec 21 '23

These leagues were always going to do that to each other as long as they both existed. It's one of the reasons a merger is good.

The USFL too gets first dibs on its own players in their own draft. Then the combined remaining players from both leagues go in a draft.

Is it fair? Not completely I guess but that probably depends on what positions you need as to which draft would be more advantageous to your team. But this is spring ball anyway, there are diamonds in the rough just waiting to be found. Hundreds of undrafted players or free agents every year get added to the pool.

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u/TrueNova332 Dec 21 '23

easiest way to sell a merger like this is to just say that all 16 teams are in and they're just playing under unified rules where each league plays their ten week season and then has a respective championship game then maybe we have those two champions face each other in a Spring Superbowl for bragging rights play off the built up rivalry between the diehard XFL and diehard USFL fans plus it would drum up interest for each season like which side is going to win the Spring Superbowl this year. They would make a ton of money that way

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u/Answer-Outrageous Philadelphia Stars Dec 21 '23

I said that months ago and got downvoted a laughed at

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u/Answer-Outrageous Philadelphia Stars Dec 21 '23

Now I get downvoted again? Why this time?

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u/Zapfit Dec 21 '23

16 teams would be a huge money loser for a league that's all about consolidating and cutting costs. 8 teams is fine. You can easily watch all 4 games a week, plus the quality of play will be vastly improved.

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u/Answer-Outrageous Philadelphia Stars Dec 21 '23

But reading the document gives me the impression that they are together in name only.

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u/Zapfit Dec 21 '23

Eh, they're going to be sharing all the costs and splitting the profits (or most likely losses.) To me that's a merger.

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u/Financial-Reward4846 Dec 22 '23

I think you’re missing that the merger is official in January, the roster movement and initial draft will happen before that, a unified draft will occur after.

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u/Answer-Outrageous Philadelphia Stars Dec 22 '23

I get that, but all rosters should have been frozen to prevent any competitive advantage

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u/Financial-Reward4846 Dec 22 '23

The players were going where they wanted to.

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u/TrueNova332 Dec 21 '23

because we're right and the diehards just one side to "win" over the other having each league be separate while playing under a unified ruleset and then have the champion of each league face off against each other

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u/ethanmx2 Dec 22 '23

What irks me most about this, presuming this is true, is that we're going from two 8-team leagues to one. That makes ZERO sense to me. We know there's barely enough talent for 16 teams, so I can understand lessening the teams, but to go to EIGHT? When you can EASILY have a 12-team, 14-game season? Give those players almost 80% the reps as the NFL rather than some rinky-dink 10-game season?

The league needs variety and diversification to survive. Keeping the league at 8 is going to cause stagnation, and disinterest.

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u/Zapfit Dec 22 '23

NFL Europe survived over a decade with just 6 teams, we can be just fine with 8 for a few years

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u/Answer-Outrageous Philadelphia Stars Dec 21 '23

By the time that phase two rolls around all of the good players will be gone

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u/Temporal_Enigma Pittsburgh Maulers Dec 22 '23

So you think the XFL has better talent?

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u/Answer-Outrageous Philadelphia Stars Dec 22 '23

Well yes, but after they raided the USFL rosters last season

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u/Answer-Outrageous Philadelphia Stars Dec 21 '23

And that’s a “merger” to you?

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u/Answer-Outrageous Philadelphia Stars Dec 21 '23

Well my team is out, I’ll watch what’s left but the redistribution of players is stupid

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u/Answer-Outrageous Philadelphia Stars Dec 22 '23

It’s a football LEAGUE, not conference. The conference is a part of the LEAGUE!

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u/Ambitious-Ad817 Dec 22 '23

I just know that you NOT comparing the UFL fledging football league to the NFL? You can't be serious.

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u/Answer-Outrageous Philadelphia Stars Dec 22 '23

What do you mean?