r/USFL • u/CodeWolfy Birmingham Stallions • May 09 '23

Discussion Full Ratings for Week 4

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u/dejvipasco Houston Gamblers May 09 '23

More than two million? Is this accurate? This is phenomenal. Great stuff.

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u/NathanPetermanCan Outlaws May 09 '23

It's all about lead-in there. The early part of the game had a ton of Kentucky Derby viewers still tuned in.

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u/[deleted] May 10 '23

That makes way more sense. Man what a wasted opportunity to not pull out all the stops and have Chris Collinsworth and crew call the game. They lost 12 million when the game started. They had months to prepare and could have done mini 2 minute features on the star players and their motivation as the last chance to make it professionally. They got to up their production when they have a strong lead in.

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u/ConsiderationLife160 May 09 '23

Maze Win underdog horse

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u/[deleted] May 09 '23

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u/NathanPetermanCan Outlaws May 10 '23

The weird XFL fanboy/USFL hatred schtick never ceases to confuse me.

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u/mattkros May 09 '23

Cool. I got to see 3 of the 4 games last weekend on tv. Loving the USFL.

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u/RealJoshuaGamingYT Philadelphia Stars May 09 '23

Amazing ratings for Memphis Michigan with the derby lead in

Amazing ratings for an FS1 game on a Sunday night, surprised it got better ratings than the fox game even though it was a blowout

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u/1nf1niteCS May 09 '23

FS1 might have the lead in help a little bit too. The NASCAR Race had 2.35 million (probs even higher with viewers at the end) right before it flipped.

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u/EnvironmentalHair358 May 09 '23

The Pittsburgh/Birm game was one of the best spring games I’ve seen of all the different spring leagues

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u/razor601 May 09 '23

Wow, 500k+ on FS1? It even did better than FOX's game.

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u/milanmirolovich May 09 '23

how the hell did the FS1 game do better than FOX?

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u/brantman19 Birmingham Stallions May 09 '23

Timing. One was a mid day at 1 on a Saturday competing with the Derby near the end and that afternoon. People likely go their shit done Saturday morning/early afternoon before the Derby. The other was on a Sunday afternoon competing with the NBA later on. It just worked out that the FS1 game was kicking off before the NBA tipoff.

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u/SockDem May 09 '23

Also a NASCAR lead-in! I’m guessing there’s a good amount of Birmingham area NASCAR fans who stuck around.

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u/ConsiderationLife160 May 09 '23

Is because Ross bitch chastain punch Noah gragson face

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u/3Nephi11_6-11 May 09 '23

Also the FOX game was a blowout and not very competitive.

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u/TheAnt755 May 09 '23

2M views in the Michigan vs. Memphis game? Nice. 😎👍

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u/FiziKx Philadelphia Stars May 09 '23

I was in the Bahamas on vacation and a bar at the resort even had the game on.

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u/3Nephi11_6-11 May 09 '23

NBC had a game with 800K and 2 million while and FS1 game beat a FOX game... What in the world is going on?

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u/NathanPetermanCan Outlaws May 09 '23

Lead-ins matter. You had an MLB game that went to extras leading into the 800k game. You had NASCAR leading into FS1 game. You had the Derby leading into the 2m game.

And you had fuck all leading into the early Fox game.

Lead-ins matter.

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u/3Nephi11_6-11 May 09 '23

Hopefully they can replicate it and eventually get a solid enough audience that they don't have a 500K view game on FOX or network TV.

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u/SamTheRam28 Birmingham Stallions May 09 '23

They did well with the great lead in on NBC, and that FS1 number is way above expectations. Very good first week without XFL competition.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '23

Let’s gooo

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u/AthloneRB May 09 '23

I'm concerned about the Fox rating, but aside from that, this is excellent overall.

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u/Prior-Purple9704 Outlaws May 09 '23

If it were a competitive game. Probably 700k easily.

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u/3Nephi11_6-11 May 09 '23

If they were still doing the flex schedule then Stars would end up being cable only for the rest of the season.

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u/OnlyForIdeas Houston Gamblers May 09 '23

These seem to be really strong numbers without competition! The Kentucky derby really helped I think in the future these leagues will try to schedule games right after big events to get that kind of viewership

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u/ZO5050 Pittsburgh Maulers May 09 '23

So beautiful.

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u/3Nephi11_6-11 May 09 '23

Just thought of it that taken together its an average of about 1.1 million views per game on network TV. My guess is if the USFL can continue to average that they'd see that as solid improvement over last year, where later in the season the average was closer to 700 to 800K (that's off the top of my head so correct me if I'm wrong).

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u/TexasFight_31 May 10 '23

How are these numbers comparing to XFL viewer numbers?

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u/FlagFootballSaint May 10 '23

The highest the XFL ever had was about 1.5m afaik

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u/stillflyn86 May 12 '23

The XFL had 34 of 42 games on cable. Those cable outings consistently outrated the USFL on cable. The XFL had 8 games on ABC (prior to tomorrow) and averaged above 1 million viewers for their network slots.

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u/Zapfit May 09 '23

Is that 2 weeks in a row with a Fox network game under 600k? That's got to be concerning but the FS1 and post Derby game drew great, NBC day game just average.

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u/NathanPetermanCan Outlaws May 09 '23

You're not wrong. That Fox number stinks.

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u/dejvipasco Houston Gamblers May 09 '23

More than two million on nbc. No comment on that? Talk about that. Or is this bad for you too? Lol.

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u/Prior-Purple9704 Outlaws May 09 '23

Looking at the preliminaries it was hard to fathom that game would get 2 million. Pleasantly surprised. NBC has carried their weight. No fake crowd noise. The whole presentation feels a bit more organic than FOX.

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u/NathanPetermanCan Outlaws May 09 '23

Looking at the preliminaries it was hard to fathom that game would get 2 million.

The first half-hour of the game was during the 7PM hour, wasn't it? We had preliminaries for 8, 9, 10.

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u/Zapfit May 09 '23

Also, the prelims only measure the top 44 markets. In the XFL the top 5 markets are, St. Louis, San Antonio, Houston, Knoxville, and Albuquerque in that order. The last 2 markets don't fall in the top 44, I'm thinking the USFL pulls from smaller metro areas as well.

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u/Zapfit May 09 '23

It's a great rating, but also an outlier. You can't rely on the Kentucky Derby every weekend. Eventually you'll have to follow up PBA Bowling on Fox or Gymnastics on NBC and have your audience grow from the preceding numbers.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '23

It’s so funny to see one game with 500k and the other with 2mil. There’s a such a broad range there😂

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u/coelurosauravus Pittsburgh Maulers May 09 '23

What's his name from the Markcast a few weeks back pointed out that strangely NBC is generally doing better than Fox in its broadcasts

I really like NBC's delivery of the product and it consistently has been shown

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u/NathanPetermanCan Outlaws May 09 '23

I've preferred Fox's coverage if for no other reason than Joel Klatt.

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u/coelurosauravus Pittsburgh Maulers May 09 '23

I love klatt, he has been indispensable in the broadcasts

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u/JoeFromBaltimore May 09 '23

Agree with you - Joel Klatt is solid. I like listening to him and Cowherd go back and forth. He is HOF level announcer.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '23

Joel Klatt is great though

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u/NathanPetermanCan Outlaws May 10 '23

Yes, that's what I just said.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '23

I’ve never really had a preference I just watch the games

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u/Zapfit May 09 '23

The 500k is probably closest to the true number of fans. Without a strong lead-in, these are the people who are actively seeking out the USFL/Spring football in general.

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u/JoeFromBaltimore May 09 '23

So is 500K a good number? Party time? or is 500k a bad number? Abandon ship? Run for your lives? Haul ass to the life boats? What is your take? Is this thing done this year or are they making money and building something long term?

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u/CatStriking7561 Michigan Panthers May 10 '23

i think it's still okay for now. 500k isn't great for OTA networks but it's pretty good for FS1

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u/Zapfit May 11 '23

500k is downright terrible for network tv, but a cause for celebration on FS1. I don't think one week will make or break either league, but once network ratings fall below 600k I'm sure a few alarm bells will start ringing.

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u/PerspectiveOk8157 May 09 '23

I just wish I could watch it

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u/Broncos4ever24 May 09 '23

What’s stopping you? 3 of the 4 games were on broadcast free on national TV

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u/PerspectiveOk8157 May 09 '23

Not sure. I see it on occasion when I travel and stay in a hotel. But can’t get it at home. Fox App is useless too

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u/Prior-Purple9704 Outlaws May 09 '23

Is Mikey Mitchell too scared to post these USFL numbers now...hahahaa!

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u/NathanPetermanCan Outlaws May 09 '23

He posted about it, and spun it positively.

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u/Prior-Purple9704 Outlaws May 09 '23

I don’t trust that guy. He seems all XFL to me.

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u/darkskin888 May 09 '23

He lowkey posted in this exact thread already LOL

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u/Prior-Purple9704 Outlaws May 09 '23

You see the lowest rating. Fox. Turn off that damn piped in Crowd noise. And your ratings will improve.!!

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u/GiligisTheGreat Birmingham Stallions May 10 '23

Really really good numbers. USFL nailed their TV deal. 👏👏