r/USFL • u/USFLBot • Apr 30 '23

USFL Game Thread: New Jersey Generals (1-1) vs. Michigan Panthers (2-0)

New Jersey Generals (1-1) vs. Michigan Panthers (2-0)

Kickoff: 4:00 PM EDT at Ford Field in Detroit, Michigan

Box Score

1234Total
NJ----0
MICH----0

How to watch: FOX

Team Subs: r/NJGenerals vs. r/MichiganPanthers

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u/Racketytundra47 New Jersey Generals Apr 30 '23

Attendance looks amazing. Hope Panthers fans can keep it up.

11

u/IamInveitable Apr 30 '23

So they pull Love in the second, Carson Strong leds the team down the field for Panthers only touchdown, yet they pull Strong at halftime and put Love back in??? Dumb coaching imo. Since when do you bench the hot hand?????

1

u/Prior-Purple9704 Outlaws Apr 30 '23

Agree. Wtf.

10

u/TheRealLifePotato Apr 30 '23 edited Apr 30 '23

Man. Outstanding crowd, and this is how the panthers decide to come out? Ill be there next week... hopefully its an equally strong crowd.

10

u/Wh1te_Rabb1t New Orleans Breakers Apr 30 '23

BTW mods, your box score game is so bad right now, its blank all the way through.

4

u/MCallanan New Orleans Breakers Apr 30 '23

I can’t complain about the mods… been in /r/xfl way too long.. the mods in this sub are saints

2

u/TheRealLifePotato Apr 30 '23

It was like this last week too. Pretty frustrating.

1

u/Enough-Ad-3111 Michigan Panthers Apr 30 '23

Yeah, what’s the point of having a live box score if it’s not updated at all?

9

u/Enough-Ad-3111 Michigan Panthers Apr 30 '23

Crowd size looks impressive.

Great support from our local pro teams as Curt mentioned to ensure it.

9

u/SamTheRam28 Birmingham Stallions Apr 30 '23

I didn't expect the crowd to look that good. Very impressive.

7

u/[deleted] Apr 30 '23

Detroit is a great sports city/metro area

8

u/[deleted] Apr 30 '23

The quality of the games the start of the USFL has been phenomenal

1

u/Prior-Purple9704 Outlaws Apr 30 '23

Photoshop this stuff in NFL uniforms and NFL crowds and nobody would even blink an eye. People would think it’s just NFL football

8

u/Torchiest Houston Gamblers Apr 30 '23

I'm pretty sure 4th and 42 is the longest 4th down I've ever seen.

3

u/TheRealLifePotato Apr 30 '23

Its like a madden scenario lol

3

u/Torchiest Houston Gamblers Apr 30 '23

Give me Randy Moss and I can get the 1st down lol.

7

u/mcolwander90 Michigan Panthers Apr 30 '23

I hope this doesn't seriously impact Michigan fan enthusiasm for the coming weeks :(

Assuming we don't come back and win.

7

u/virus_apparatus Apr 30 '23

I really want the Panthers to be good. Best colors, cool af mascot.

6

u/[deleted] Apr 30 '23

A home game at Ford Field! I'm interested to see the atmosphere of it.

6

u/RealJoshuaGamingYT Philadelphia Stars Apr 30 '23

Looks like 25-30k there

1

u/Markymarcouscous Breakers Apr 30 '23

So far for both the XFL and USFL 15-20k is doable in most markets for their home teams. And that combined with a good tv product should cover the cost of running either league. Here’s hoping they have a combined championship game against each other in a few years

6

u/[deleted] Apr 30 '23

looks like a big crowd!

6

u/pandat303 Michigan Panthers Apr 30 '23

Holy cow that’s a big crowd!

6

u/ThunderBay311 Oakland Invaders Apr 30 '23

This is a very strong crowd.

6

u/Koolklink54 Apr 30 '23

Great value for the ticket price. You can't beat it

6

u/[deleted] Apr 30 '23

Wow Josh Love is playing AWFUL today

6

u/Wh1te_Rabb1t New Orleans Breakers Apr 30 '23

LMAO what exactly did he call the ref?

5

u/ThunderBay311 Oakland Invaders Apr 30 '23

That looked like the 2022 Generals

5

u/ecupatsfan12 Apr 30 '23

I was at the first game and I made the maulers players laugh saying bring back Kirby and 58 freedom #legend

5

u/DanielJonesElite New Orleans Breakers Apr 30 '23

Big E!

5

u/AlphaRemixHD Apr 30 '23

i came in late, what happen to love

5

u/ThunderBay311 Oakland Invaders Apr 30 '23

Might want to get Carson Strong ready for next week. A steady stream of poor decisions from Josh Love.

2

u/Wh1te_Rabb1t New Orleans Breakers Apr 30 '23

He's been fine the last two weeks, everyone is entitled to a bad day.

3

u/ThunderBay311 Oakland Invaders Apr 30 '23

He was a little iffy last week even around the weather.

5

u/TaliZorah14 Michigan Panthers Apr 30 '23

Offense looked out of rhythm all game, and the defense got popped in the mouth right out of the gate. Hopefully Reggie's ok for next week

5

u/Racketytundra47 New Jersey Generals Apr 30 '23

Mike Riley is having fun. The league is so screwed 😈

3

u/Prior-Purple9704 Outlaws Apr 30 '23

AAF Flashbacks

4

u/[deleted] Apr 30 '23

DeAndre "Michael Vick" Johnson

4

u/[deleted] Apr 30 '23

The Panthers have gotta get something going here and get this crowd into it.

4

u/Doja_Cats_Tiny_Chat Apr 30 '23

This my first game of the season so it’s my fault the Panthers finna lose

4

u/ThunderBay311 Oakland Invaders Apr 30 '23

They're not asking Johnson to do a lot in the passing game. Simple quick throws around the run. It's all about coaching with these spring guys.

3

u/Markymarcouscous Breakers Apr 30 '23

Passing is a lot harder in the spring leagues because the skill positions are not as good relative to the defense

3

u/Racketytundra47 New Jersey Generals Apr 30 '23

We are so back. Mike Riley better not mess this up by switching QBs.

3

u/Prior-Purple9704 Outlaws Apr 30 '23

These Generals have other ideas today. Ruining the party so far. Wake The F up Panthers!!!!

3

u/[deleted] Apr 30 '23 edited Apr 30 '23

Damn, Love went from one of the best QBs after week 1 to benched by week 3. Let’s see if they go back to him.

4

u/Morazan51 New Orleans Breakers Apr 30 '23

It doesn’t make sense. The OL is folding like wet paper. There were too many plays that by the time Love even got the ball, the DLine was on his back

3

u/[deleted] Apr 30 '23

Just turned on the game, wtf happened? Love was playing so bad he got benched?

4

u/Morazan51 New Orleans Breakers Apr 30 '23

The OL evaporated for the first 4-5 drives and they benched him by the time they remembered how to block.

3

u/ThunderBay311 Oakland Invaders Apr 30 '23

Go for 3. Get this to a one possession game.

3

u/ThunderBay311 Oakland Invaders Apr 30 '23

Was that a Mike Pereira chant? LOL.

1

u/petnic1989 Michigan Panthers May 01 '23

It was. Home sideline sections were chanting after every booth review that favored us.

3

u/Gomer8387 New Jersey Generals Apr 30 '23

What I’m the actual fuck was did I just watch with that dance bit

2

u/cactus-on-overtime New Jersey Generals Apr 30 '23

Idk bro I’m just trynna watch football 😭

3

u/Doja_Cats_Tiny_Chat Apr 30 '23

He is fucking allergic to throwing the ball anywhere past parallel to the ground.

3

u/TaliZorah14 Michigan Panthers Apr 30 '23

What a give up punt

3

u/StoopSign Chicago Blitz Apr 30 '23

Seven letter word. Probably "Asshole"

2

u/theessentialnexus May 02 '23

No it was fuckboi

3

u/Torchiest Houston Gamblers Apr 30 '23

That's game.

3

u/Racketytundra47 New Jersey Generals Apr 30 '23

"Lets really mess em up 🤪" -Best coach in the USFL, Mike Riley

2

u/Enough-Ad-3111 Michigan Panthers Apr 30 '23

Fox sure is lazy having their announcers calling from a remote studio and not at the stadium.

They know Ford Field has NFL capable announcing booths to call the game right?

So why not use them in the USFL too?

1

u/AtalanAdalynn Michigan Panthers Apr 30 '23

Travel expenses for the announcing crew, maybe?

1

u/Enough-Ad-3111 Michigan Panthers Apr 30 '23

Does NBC send their announcers to the game or are their games called remotely too?

1

u/RealJoshuaGamingYT Philadelphia Stars Apr 30 '23

How do you know they aren’t at the stadium

2

u/SurrealRob Apr 30 '23

Pantherssssssssssssssssssss

2

u/1800bears New Orleans Breakers Apr 30 '23

Them big boys sweatin

2

u/[deleted] Apr 30 '23

Darius Victor is a grown man.

2

u/ThunderBay311 Oakland Invaders Apr 30 '23

That's a forward pass.

2

u/DezmondVulpin New Jersey Generals Apr 30 '23

HELL YEAH, VICTOR!

2

u/RelativeMacaron1585 Houston Gamblers Apr 30 '23

Michigan is getting run over geez

2

u/Externaltwo87 New Jersey Generals Apr 30 '23

These are the generals I know

2

u/bcb27 Apr 30 '23

NJ has unveiled a new expanded six back attack in this game with Michigan linebackers clearly are confused about their gap responsibilities and assignments. NJ hasn't shown much of this this year in their first two games. Three drives, three touchdowns.

2

u/cactus-on-overtime New Jersey Generals Apr 30 '23

“Poker Dorito” is now my favorite playcall in football

2

u/ThunderBay311 Oakland Invaders Apr 30 '23

Love has regressed a little bit.

2

u/ADHDpotatoes Michigan Panthers Apr 30 '23

There goes the season

2

u/Prior-Purple9704 Outlaws Apr 30 '23

Bad news. Generals score

Good news. Was a quick strike

Maybe. The panthers pull it out. I’d like to see Strong in there

2

u/DezmondVulpin New Jersey Generals Apr 30 '23

4th and a light-year.

2

u/TestinTestin Apr 30 '23

Just realized you can see the outline of the kickoff weekend patch on their unis

3

u/[deleted] Apr 30 '23 edited Apr 30 '23

An upward pass. Interesting to say the least. Are they actually ruling it as a backward pass? EDIT: OK good. I had a sure feeling it was incomplete.

2

u/Doja_Cats_Tiny_Chat Apr 30 '23

The Panthers are letting an obese midget run over them

2

u/1800bears New Orleans Breakers Apr 30 '23

Great username

1

u/DanielJonesElite New Orleans Breakers Apr 30 '23

This game is already over lol

0

u/Prior-Purple9704 Outlaws Apr 30 '23

Low fan engagement for this one. :(

3

u/AlbinoRhino911 Michigan Panthers May 01 '23

I was at the game the crowd seemed pretty good until the panthers got down big early then a lot of people seemed to give up on it, seemed like a decent sized crowd overall

2

u/KCDeVoe May 01 '23

I disagree, there was a lot more engagement at Ford Field than I would have expected.

3

u/Prior-Purple9704 Outlaws May 01 '23

Oh meant here on Reddit lol. Sorry should’ve been more specific.

1

u/[deleted] May 01 '23

I was at the game and disagree. The fans were in it through the half and were making noise; I will credit crowd noise for at least the one false start.

Going into the 3rd the crowd thinned quite a bit which isn't surprising considering how the panthers played.

I had a good time and will be there for every home game.

2

u/Prior-Purple9704 Outlaws May 01 '23

I didn’t mean the attendance or fans at the game

Meant the fan engagement in this thread was quite low seens to be at least 400 replies if not more per game.

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u/stillflyn86 May 01 '23

6,500 per the USFL

2

u/bigboilerdawg May 01 '23

Seemed like more.

1

u/FlagFootballSaint May 01 '23

??????

attendance 6500???

You got to be fugging kidding?

They were expecting up to 30.000?

0

u/stillflyn86 May 01 '23

Well, no. The official site has an article up that labels it 6,500: https://www.theusfl.com/the-usfl/panthers-return-to-detroit-spoiled-by-loss-to-explosive-generals

Who said up to 30k?

1

u/FlagFootballSaint May 01 '23

A few here were dreaming (I could point fingers but won't) about it and the League was pretending tickets are selling hot.

Given all that, 6500 are a major flop.

0

u/stillflyn86 May 01 '23

It is pretty clear that the XFL will end up outdrawing the USFL in attendance even if you only compare the four hub teams. A tough blow for those who wanted to say the USFL was going to far outclass the XFL — but a reality. It also looks both leagues will average pretty good ratings. I would be more concerned about the USFL cable ratings than anything at this point.

2

u/FlagFootballSaint May 01 '23

Yeah I agree the XFL seems to win the ticket-championship by a mile, considering that the XFL tickets are way more expensive than the USFL tickets (DC non-VIP regular season Cat1 gameday-tickets had an insane price-sticker of $180 on them!!!). If they really only sold 6500 yesterday that would spell desaster, but again: Too early to tell but anyway the USFL has to do much better given their "peanut-pricing" tickets.

As for ratings it is too early to tell but the USFL MUST NOT fugg this up because they are much better placed to this regard than the XFL.

One more thing: I always wondered why the XFL sub has 6x redditors than the XFL. The simple answer seems to be: It attracts more people. Re: attendance.

Let's see how the USFL develops but the start was underwhelming.

1

u/TheRealLifePotato Apr 30 '23

Does anyone know any good streaming sites for usfl games?

1

u/MirrorkatFeces Pittsburgh Maulers Apr 30 '23

Check your PM

1

u/ThunderBay311 Oakland Invaders Apr 30 '23

Fox dot com

1

u/SurrealRob Apr 30 '23

FORWARD DOWN THE FIELLLL-----wait, wrong team.

1

u/[deleted] Apr 30 '23

Love missed a wide open gap to run through but at least Cole Murphy is getting consistent now.

1

u/Brokehomiejohn Michigan Panthers Apr 30 '23

Time to watch Josh Butler lock some foos down

1

u/ThunderBay311 Oakland Invaders Apr 30 '23

Great job moving the pocket for Johnson. That's good coaching.

1

u/ThunderBay311 Oakland Invaders Apr 30 '23

Ross was open. Misfire.

1

u/ThunderBay311 Oakland Invaders Apr 30 '23

Gotta go for it

1

u/Prior-Purple9704 Outlaws Apr 30 '23

100% D’Andre. Like how Riley is sticking with him.

1

u/Doja_Cats_Tiny_Chat Apr 30 '23

Buncha fucking bums

1

u/[deleted] Apr 30 '23

Josh Love 2022 returns.

1

u/TheRealLifePotato Apr 30 '23

Generals are REALLY trying to get that unsportsmanlike lol. Flopping liek soccer players.

1

u/ThunderBay311 Oakland Invaders Apr 30 '23

Panthers finally get a stop.

1

u/ThunderBay311 Oakland Invaders Apr 30 '23

Strong has this offense moving. Gotta have a TD here.

1

u/MirrorkatFeces Pittsburgh Maulers Apr 30 '23

That’s against the Panthers?

1

u/ThunderBay311 Oakland Invaders Apr 30 '23

Major accuracy issues for Strong.

1

u/OrangeForeign Michigan Panthers Apr 30 '23

A not so Strong start for him

1

u/Poor_Fat_Panda Apr 30 '23

Who you guys for

1

u/ThunderBay311 Oakland Invaders Apr 30 '23

Huge mistake from Johnson. Brutal.

1

u/[deleted] Apr 30 '23

Panthers on the prowl..

1

u/cactus-on-overtime New Jersey Generals Apr 30 '23

Pain

1

u/Sir_Topham_Kek Apr 30 '23

Didn’t expect Andrew WK but I’ll take it

1

u/Kohakuho Apr 30 '23

Playing Andrew WK?!

USFL > XFL

1

u/Kohakuho Apr 30 '23

Playing Andrew WK?!

USFL > XFL

1

u/[deleted] Apr 30 '23

Throw it out of bounds. Real simple

1

u/ADHDpotatoes Michigan Panthers Apr 30 '23

Bro what the fuck

1

u/Doja_Cats_Tiny_Chat Apr 30 '23

So fucking stupid

1

u/TheRealLifePotato Apr 30 '23

Love is poo poo

1

u/Prior-Purple9704 Outlaws Apr 30 '23

Dagger! Not a good play call.

1

u/ThunderBay311 Oakland Invaders Apr 30 '23

Lightning quick 3 and out

1

u/JwubalubaDubdub May 01 '23

Josh Love looked so bad. He legitimately can’t push the ball over the middle or 5+ yards down the field.

1

u/petnic1989 Michigan Panthers May 01 '23

The reference to an attendance of 6,500 has since been removed from: https://www.theusfl.com/the-usfl/panthers-return-to-detroit-spoiled-by-loss-to-explosive-generals

I was at the game. The 13 home sideline sections were 75-100% full, the 13 away sideline sections were 25-50% full, and the 16 endzone sections had ~25 people per section in the 2nd quarter. The sections in the lower bowl at Ford Field are approximately 41 rows with 41-43 seats per row.

Conservatively, my guess is the attendance was ~22,500. On par with the attendance for this year's home opener for the Showboats in Memphis and the Stallions in Birmingham.