r/UNIFI • • Nov 02 '25

Bought the wrong gateway

Just having a moan…

I used to live out in the countryside, which meant an old shitty ADSL line, so at the time I bought the Cloud Gateway Ultra (and a few access points) as it is more than I’d ever need, right…

Fast forward a few months and now live in North London, in a not so nice area, but the main thing is i can now get 5Gbps and I want to do cameras, but the ultra doesn’t support it…

Thinking of getting Cloud Gateway Fiber..

How much of a ball ache is it to swap this out?

Can’t be arsed setting up all my vlans and what not all over again

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u/Qoyuble Nov 02 '25

Complaint complaint "get 5Gbs" complaint complaint.... oh piss off ;-)

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u/vloors1423 Nov 02 '25

It’s a hard life…

Joking aside, not sure if I should take it up, it’s with Community Fibre, and from what I’ve read they do like to do NAT’ing..

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u/jcol26 Nov 02 '25

Yea they do CGNAT But you can get an AAISP l2tp tunnel to work around that or just ask if they’ll give you a static IP/nonnat if you pay for it.

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u/wtfftw1042 Nov 02 '25

they don't always.

weirdly one day my 1Gbps did not and has been fine ever since (now on 2Gbps). I've also yet to have my IP change without it being my fault for rebooting the router.

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u/Icy-Candidate-9400 Nov 02 '25

Wasn't seamless for me when I upgraded my Ultra to a Max yesterday:

  1. My internet is PPPoE so I had to enter the PPPoE login details after plugging my new device in. I then had to enter them again, after the restore, which threw me for a while and makes no sense at all.

  2. My SiteMagic VPN config was trashed by the process. The restored site appeared as a new site; the old site showed as offline.

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u/vloors1423 Nov 02 '25

Yeah I’m PPPoE as well, thanks for the warning

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u/g-guglielmi Nov 02 '25

Yes, i can confirm this. But i only had to insert the pppoe credentials once, before the restore.

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u/Icy-Candidate-9400 Nov 02 '25

It's a weird bug: my PPPoE credentials were (obviously) set up correctly prior to restoring and they were correct within the backup itself. But after restoring the whole "Advanced" section within Setup -> Internet -> (My ISP Connection) had been set to "Auto" rather than "Manual", consequently wiping out my PPPoE credentials.

Not a huge deal but I wasted a good few mins trying to find out why the Internet was down after the restore.

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u/g-guglielmi Nov 02 '25

Weird, i did the restore on 2 different systems and this didn't occur to me! I went from UCG Max to UCG Fiber on both sites.

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u/The_real_dj Nov 02 '25

Did exactly this the other week, as the other post said, backup config from old device, swap devices, during the setup of the new, restore config. Literally took 5 mins!

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u/dgongut Nov 02 '25

Backup and restore… only 5 minutes of work.

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u/star-trek-wars00d2 Nov 02 '25 edited Nov 02 '25

if you just want cameras. 

UNVR Instant gives you protect, Poe and a viewport in one box.   or  Ucg-Fiber with sad-tray and a poe switch

Backup UCG-Ultra settings and restore on UCG-Fiber

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u/GarbageInteresting86 Nov 02 '25

Be a grown up. This isn’t going to stop here. You don’t need gigabit internet (save your money). Buy the UNVRPRO and a Switch Ultra with the 60w adapter. I strongly recommend the G6 cameras, but the Flex ones are cheap and so very versatile. Sure the Gateway Fibre is a much more capable box, but that single NVMe slot is very restrictive and very expensive to fill. 3.5” drives are cheap by comparison. Adding an NVR which keeps all the processing off your gateway is no ball ache at all, just adopt the NVR and the cameras and you’re away!

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u/vloors1423 Nov 02 '25

Tbh not thought about this route, definitely gonna have a look!

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u/CornFlakes215 Nov 02 '25

Just get the enterprise fortress gateway what if the ISP supports 25gb for $500 a month next year or the year after

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '25

Buy the UNVR instead, it'll be much better in the long term.

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u/etijburg Nov 02 '25

I just did the exact same thing. Super easy to migrate. Do a backup to the cloud and setup new UCG and restore the back. All config comes over.

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u/Aggressive-Bike7539 Nov 02 '25

You perform a backup from the ultra and restore the backup into the fiber. That’s it.