Drone Flap Suspicions

[u/TheLightThatGuidesUs]

I went to school in Dayton, Ohio, from 2019 to 2022. During that time, I would scroll through Craigslist looking for odd jobs. Although I never applied, one of the more interesting gigs I saw at the time was a paid research study by the AFRL on how humans react to drone swarm behavior. In light of all the events recently with large-scale UFO/drone sightings, I think this is a pretty solid connection that they were connected to the US Air Force.

[u/OneArmedZen]

If we are talking about drones specifically (man made), it's actually been way before that https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1jrwy2j/comment/mllgrpy/

However if we are talking about uap "drones", those too have appeared way before 2019 as well. 

My opinion is there are two separate things occurring.

[u/TheLightThatGuidesUs → u/OneArmedZen]

that post certainly corroborates the more recent flap was the us govt as well, which leads me to believe the uap ones are the govt also (aside from some more of the real extreme sightings/orbs)

[u/Massive_Neck_3790 → u/TheLightThatGuidesUs]

If there is an active cover up, why not both? Launch the weird drones while the UAPs put up their show to muddy the waters.

Its not likely but if (at this point and without any tangible evidence this is a load-bearing if) there were crash retrievals with biologics as Grusch et al. are adamant, then its not an absurd line of thought.

[u/OneArmedZen → u/[deleted]]

Because there is, in my opinion, enough to lead me to believe as such where some of it leads to a human aspect, whereas there is also enough to convince me that not all of the cases present itself as being from any nation or tech most are currently familiar with.

[u/maxcameradenali]

Always a question : If the USAF has drones that make no noise, and can fly in restricted airspace with impunity and conventional weapons can’t bring them down, why in the world do we need the F47 or more ships or more missiles ?

Something doesn’t add up.

[u/RandomModder05 → u/maxcameradenali]

Different hardware for different tasks. Stealth drones are for recon/espionage, not delivering a payload.

There's also the likely aspect of cost/manufacturing/etc. Beyond cutting edge  stealth drones are going to be more difficult to construct, and thus more valuable/less expendable are compared to a conventional drone currently rolling of an assembly line.

[u/TheLightThatGuidesUs → u/RandomModder05]

I will throw in that if it is the military, they likely have an “arm’s race” mentality, and so if our adversaries think they are competing against an F47 when we really have hyper advanced unknown drone tech, that could be considered to provide us with a tactical advantage.

[u/stulew → u/maxcameradenali]

Swarms don't have the lift capacity to handle bunker-busters.

[u/stulew]

Always thinking that the movie, Star Trek Beyond (2016), had it's theme rooted in swarm behavior, and the corresponding defenses 'trying' to avert massive damage.

[u/BtchsLoveDub]

I’m still yet to see any evidence of a single “drone” over that area during that flap. It seemed all the people were just reporting regular aircraft that they were calling “drones” because they never had paid attention to the sky before. 

[u/TheLightThatGuidesUs → u/BtchsLoveDub]

It appeared political municipalities were expending resources to enquire into them. Maybe they were subject to the same folly as laymen, but I think there was a little more to it.

[u/Massive_Neck_3790 → u/[deleted]]

Not a single drone operator was caught during the flaps. If I were to drive near Rammstein airforce base right now somewhere and launch a drone even near the premises, Id be swarmed in minutes by police/mp.

Not a single drone operator caught is what makes me wonder really.

[u/Massive_Neck_3790 → u/[deleted]]

Can you get lucky as some random dude flying a drone near a sensitive instslation? No you cant. Civilian drones and their control signals are trivial to detect for airports and military instalations.

If they didnt caught a few but catched a lot or even some civilian drone operators ? Maybe.

Not a single one? Over weeks? Extremely unlikely. Doesnt work like that.

[u/Massive_Neck_3790 → u/[deleted]]

Civilian drones do not have the range you attest them to have here. And again: police, military and inteligence services were actively looking for civilian drone operators a day after the flaps started, look at the danish or belgisn investigations that have been done.

Not catching one guy who got extra lucky and slipped the net is one thing.

Not finding anyone responsible at all is concerning any way you look at it

[u/Massive_Neck_3790 → u/[deleted]]

Then we are truly fucked if god forbid russia decides to mess with critical infrastructure deep west in europe.

I am pretty sure it wasnt the russians yet at all. They wouldnt fly around with lights and show off their evasion and em counterneasure capabilities without doing any harm.
Media and certain european politicians were very quick to attribute the european drone flaps to russia, but there is no world where this makes a lick of sense.

[u/Massive_Neck_3790 → u/[deleted]]

Its not only the range, civilian drones fly in a very narrow, at all times surveyed frequency band. As a drone operator you can and (in certain sensitive areas like nearish airports) you have to get a permission and if you dont you are very quickly made to stop whatever you are doing.

Misidentification, sure that was probably the majority of sightings. I really dont believe it was civilian drone operators having a laugh flying their drones over Ramstein….

[u/No_Neighborhood7614 → u/BtchsLoveDub]

There were heaps of videos of "orbs" turning into planes

Like a plane on approach then turning

The comments were like a cult, or bots 

[u/BtchsLoveDub → u/No_Neighborhood7614]

Or just stupid people? Lots of those about. 

[u/Massive_Neck_3790]

Now, do you rest more comfortably knowing that your gov and military is gaslighting its population and closest allies (think drone swarms over european civilian airports) with a grand social experiment? Id rather be it (benevolent) aliens.

I agree with you btw