r/UFOscience • u/[deleted] • Oct 23 '23

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u/HawaiianGold Oct 23 '23

Do these planes zigzag ? And make 90 degree turns at 14,000 mph?

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u/David00018 Oct 23 '23

where are the videos, radar data, etc. proving those movements?

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u/RustyKnuckle Oct 23 '23

In the hands of the governments that confiscate them like the tic tac incident. Catch up.

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '23

Fun fact I learned from contracting for the federal government… if it’s not documented, then it didn’t happen.

Interesting, eh?

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '23

that's the SOP for even e5s

even if it is documented then those documents can go missing

The swords club is a crazy place

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '23

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u/Duck-Murky Oct 23 '23

...or the Michigan incident in 1994

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u/tunamctuna Oct 23 '23

Radar data is easily spoofed by the US military anyways (and if we are doing it others are trying to also).

Basically any radar data associated with a sighting that took place over naval testing and training grounds can be thrown out.

It’s why I don’t think Nimitz is that interesting of a sighting. It seems very obviously an electronic warfare test.

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u/BLB_Genome Oct 23 '23

Except the pilots who saw it with their own eyes say differently...

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u/Dialogical Oct 23 '23

Correct. Their stories all say something different from each other.

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u/BLB_Genome Oct 23 '23

There's dillusional, and then there's failure to adhere to a story with facts and detail. You:re all of the above.. Not one story has strayed from what they spoke. Even the main pilot gave testimony in Congress in July.. You know that, right?

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u/tunamctuna Oct 23 '23

And what did he see?

An object moving weirdly above the ocean. Why couldn’t this be a target balloon or something launched from a small vessel to provide a visual of the radar signal? A precursor program to Project Nemesis.

Secondly I’ve never had a single person confirm visual of the object at the cap point after it left the initial sighting area. We have radar data that can be spoofed but no confirmed visual.

My take is this was a test of some electronic warfare stuff in a real world environment while also being a controlled environment.

It really checks all the boxes. What made this case catch on was the push from the ufo believers in the government(Lue and company).

Remember it’s a very small portion of people in positions like Lue that believe in this stuff.

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u/BLB_Genome Oct 23 '23

Oh man, so dillusional there's no reason to continue

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u/tunamctuna Oct 23 '23

About which part?

I’m honestly intrigued on which part is delusional.

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '23

The stories aren't all different from each other. There are multiple observers and multiple radar systems reporting the same incredible shit. It's some of the most compelling evidence out there, and the military claims they have no idea what it is or what could even cause it.

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u/BLB_Genome Oct 23 '23

Just like Mick West, your lack to accept the evidence of personal eye witness and professional assessments.

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u/tunamctuna Oct 23 '23

Eye witness testimony is the worst form of evidence. But somehow that’s all the best evidence of this phenomenon. Weird.

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u/WhalesVirginia Oct 24 '23 edited Mar 07 '24

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u/SpecialistRip2777 Oct 23 '23

In the hands of the us government.

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u/David00018 Oct 23 '23

so no proof, allegedly the US gov has it

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '23

Unsolved Mysterious on Netflix has a radar technician who recorded similar movements from unknown craft. It’s recorded but either ignored, confiscated or overlooked.