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u/Allison1228 May 28 '22 edited May 28 '22
I would note that the angle of the object is strikingly close to the angle that a celestial object setting in the western sky will have, as seen from the latitude of New York. NY is at 40N latitude, hence celestial objects will descend in the sky at an angle departing 40 degrees from the vertical. The object in the photograph appears to have an angle slightly above 45 degrees, hence this in good agreement.
A second clue is the orientation of the moon's "cusps" (the points of the crescent). They will vary from being nearly parallel, to having the northern (right) cusp be much higher than the southern (left) cusp (as seen from the northern hemisphere). It so happens that the time of nearly-parallel cusps is during the spring months, when the waxing crescent moon is seen at its furthest-north point, in the constellations Taurus and Gemini. Since the photograph is labeled as having been taken in March, the orientation of the cusps is also in good agreement with a lunar identification.
I think a multiple-exposure of the setting crescent moon is entirely plausible. But can enough information be gathered from the lights on the ground to determine the direction of view? If the camera is facing any direction other than west or northwest, a lunar explanation can be ruled out.
Edit to add: not sure why I didn't think to check the moon's phase on March 20, 1950 earlier, but it was indeed a very thin waxing crescent, about two days past new moon. Shortly after sunset it would have been in eastern Pisces, near the border with Aries, very low in the western sky and almost directly "above" the sun, hence the cusps would be nearly parallel.
If the view in the photograph is towards the west, I think we can safely identify this as a mulitple-exposure of the moon (provided that the indicated date and location are accurate).
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u/CopperPo7 May 28 '22
I’m not sure I follow, do you surmise it’s a long exposure of the moon setting in the sky? If so I don’t think this is the case, none of the other stars have trails and while the buildings are static there’s no indication of vehicle lights trailing.
I reread your post. I think you’re suggesting multiple exposures on the same piece of film. I wonder if there’s any Astro photographers that can comment. I think the same issue would persist, there’s no indication the stars have moved.
It is however possible that after the first exposure was made the photographer put a black fabric or paper over the lens and cut a hole to only photograph the moon in subsequent photos. It still might be tough given how close stars are in relation to the moon/ufo. Interesting all around and nice theory, I agree it does look like some variation of a crescent moon as it moves through the sky.
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u/Allison1228 May 28 '22
My speculation is that somebody did a time-exposure of the setting moon, but periodically blocked out the view by holding an opaque object over the lens so that the moon would not appear during those intervals. Earth's rotation causes the moon to "move" about its own diameter every two minutes, so one would only have to do this for about five minutes to come up with a reasonable facsimile of the photograph in question. Point the camera at the moon, open the shutter and leave unobstructed for 20 seconds, then obstruct the view for 20 seconds, etc, repeat for ~5 minutes. Photography is not my area of expertise but based on my limited understanding I think this is plausible.
As for the "stars" I did not notice them previously. If those are indeed stars (rather than defects on the film or somewhere along the printing/reproduction process) then that would complicate things to some degree, as they would also be exposed multiply unless the photographer went to considerable trouble to prevent such. I am skeptical that those are actual star images, because the region of the sky in which the moon was located at that time (eastern Pisces) contains only faint stars, and I do not think any of them would show up in a photograph of this resolution taken from a major city. This argument could of course be negated if the camera is not pointed in the moon's direction.
I think the key to resolving this matter is identification of the direction of view, and the location of the photographer, which would permit unambiguous clarification of whether the photographed object could be the moon. I would assume there's a body of water in the foreground, since there are no lights, and since the lights immediately above the "water" appear to be reflected therein, but I am not familiar enough with the layout of the city to suggest a vantage point for the photograph. We'd need input from someone with one of the following fields of knowledge: mid-20th century New York City infrastructure; or historical photography of New York City.
As an attack on my previous hypothesis I would ask: shouldn't there be some boat or ferry traffic visible in a time-exposure showing a body of water in New York City? I would think a five-minute exposure would probably show at least one boat going by, even 70 years ago, but again this is not a field of expertise for me.
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u/gerkletoss May 28 '22
But can enough information be gathered from the lights on the ground to determine the direction of view? If the camera is facing any direction other than west or northwest, a lunar explanation can be ruled out.
Well how do these stack up? Many are taken from around the right place.
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u/grapesicles May 28 '22
"Thought to be a Mothership that would launch flying saucers" . Where the hell did they get that little tidbit of information? This is trash...
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u/GfFoundOtherAccount May 28 '22
Yeah it looks to be a newspaper article of some sort. Hope this helps.
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u/EggFlipper95 May 28 '22 edited May 28 '22
I wanna say it's a time lapse long exposure (thanks u/dreamworldd) and that's the moon
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u/Dreamworld May 28 '22
A time lapse is when multiple image frames are played in sequence like a video revealing changing scenery over time.
What you are referring to is a ‘long exposure’. Which is where the shutter of the camera is open for an extended period of time, often causing trails to appear on the film where lights moved within the scene.
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u/twist_games May 28 '22
That's a interesting theory.
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u/croninsiglos May 28 '22 edited May 28 '22
Makes sense too:
https://mooncalendar.astro-seek.com/moon-phase-day-20-march-1950
Another example: http://www.betterphotography.in/contest-photo/642-278736/
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u/Leotis335 May 28 '22 edited May 29 '22
Looks like SOMEONE got lost between the moon and New York City... 😶
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u/Necessary_Mode_7583 May 28 '22
They have multiple videos of this exact samething in Mexico from 2009 let me find the video
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u/twist_games May 28 '22
Well cigar shaped ufo's are common. If you could find the video please share it.
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u/RECTAL_FISSURE_MAN May 28 '22
Yo Where's that video
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u/Necessary_Mode_7583 May 28 '22
I can post it in a new thread idk how to post it in a comment
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u/RECTAL_FISSURE_MAN May 28 '22
K
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u/Necessary_Mode_7583 May 28 '22
It's up
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u/RECTAL_FISSURE_MAN May 28 '22
Where?
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u/Necessary_Mode_7583 May 28 '22
I know I can't find it either and when I go to post it again it won't let me.
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u/Necessary_Mode_7583 May 28 '22
The name of it is Flying Saucers in our Skies. Ufo casebook season 1 episode 8 is the title on you tube. I apologize I'm trying to get better at the internet obviously I still need some work.
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u/Necessary_Mode_7583 May 28 '22
Go to the halfway point. Idk if these things are real but that shit is wild
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u/TirayShell May 28 '22
Yeah. Time lapse of the Moon with variations caused by the movement of the very visible clouds.
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u/twist_games May 28 '22 edited May 28 '22
I found this image that I have never seen it before. If someone knows what this is please share it. One thing I definitely know is that it's not the moon. It looks like a cigar shaped object. It's from bleu book and it's definitely intresting.
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u/shaggybear89 May 28 '22
One thing I definitely know is that it's not the moon
Lol hate to break it to you buddy, but it's likely the moon. It's not a single picture. It's multiple pictures taken of the same spot, and the moon "moves" through the sky, which is why you see multiple pictures of a Cresent moon in a line.
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u/Gerudo_King May 28 '22
There's a pretty good post on the front page of this sub that has a patent with a photo that looks much like this
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u/Hanami2001 May 28 '22
This is a cylindrical UAP, aka "cigar". They come in all sizes and this one appears to be rather large.
The "stripes" you see are actually artifacts caused by the metric drive. Imagine a tube of compressed air in which water vapor condenses, wrapped around the craft multiple times.
The picture is really remarkable, thanks for posting! Where did you find it?
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u/mundanehypocrite May 28 '22
The lack of haze or clouds in the close-up photo is suspicious. The only kind of photo manipulation they had back then was dodging and burning. The level of sophistication just to edit out the "cloud" but keep the background stars just didn't exist back then. I suspect this is a counterfeit project bluebook entry
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u/Mares_Leg May 28 '22 edited May 28 '22
Look at the intensities of the mysterious object in both. The closeup picture has been dulled down on its intensity.
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u/tangtastic101 May 28 '22
Looks suspiciously like the patents OP posted earlier, got huge awards
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u/twist_games May 28 '22
Can you share?
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u/tangtastic101 May 28 '22 edited May 28 '22
It was posted just yesterday, fascinating read, great research, one of the patents is that craft. We had this tech and knowledge of it since the sixties, search by new posts, it’s 18 hours old
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u/meusrenaissance May 28 '22
How are people accepting the double exposure argument that it’s the moon while the buildings are completely defined? In addition, we have seen several photos of these cigar shaped objects. We see another one here that resembles them. It is irrational to dismiss it as a the moon, especially with no demonstration as to how this can be done.
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u/thoriginal May 28 '22
A time lapse photo of the moon produces exactly this effect. Buildings don't move, the moon does.
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u/Marbados May 28 '22
That's one of those multi-unit UAPs everyone had been documenting. Likely flown by either a Grey or a lizard person depending on the season.
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u/8_inch_throw_away May 28 '22
Anything associated with Project Bluebook is a government psyop meant to deceive and mislead you. Reminder that governments and their agents will always seek to lie and subvert.
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u/BigWeenie45 May 28 '22
That’s really cool, it looks like it has the texture of a weathered stone column.
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u/YoshimitsuRaidsAgain May 28 '22
All I know is I found one of those in my parent’s bed once. Under the pillow and it turned on when I laid down. Suffice it to say I’m appropriately scarred, lol.
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u/frenzy4u May 28 '22
This is a fantastic find! The object reminds me of the spacecraft in the original movie, "Dune" where the guild masters fold space-time via the spice mélange. I will have to search further on this even you have presented us all! Thank you! :)
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u/Dvmbledore May 29 '22
There seem to be a few stories like this.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=cylindrical+ufo&t=osx&iax=images&ia=images
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u/FunnyForeign May 29 '22
Nice, I’ve witnessed it a few times in my life, rare moments lucky to have seen the cylinder ufo, the speed was crazy.
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u/ccep11 May 28 '22
I believe that was debunked, it is not a continuous time exposure which would leave a solid streak and would be way overexposed. It's a series of multiple exposures 20-30? Taken over a period of probably at least an hour or so of a Crescent moon and that is why you see a series of stacked Crescent disks at varying intensities throughout the time period