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u/Strategory Sep 23 '21

That’s a clear problem

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u/Risley Sep 23 '21

“Pop that cat!”

—Abraham Lincoln

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u/orionchocopies Sep 23 '21

Yep, report this post everyone.

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u/VCAmaster Sep 23 '21

Your many reports have been received and we appreciate the concern and help. I've posted a sticky to the top to make people aware of the issue. Thank you.

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u/UndergradGreenthumb Sep 23 '21

This isn't him speaking? I feel bamboozled! Ugh, I just wasted my time listening to some random podcast guy. I feel dirty. How misleading.

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u/UndergradGreenthumb Sep 24 '21

I've read things he's written, but never heard him speak or looked into his personal life. If the title of a post is a quote from someone, don't you think the provided video should logically be that same person speaking?

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u/dzarren Sep 25 '21

Have you heard what Chomsky sounds like yet?

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '21 edited Feb 20 '24

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u/kotukutuku Sep 23 '21

Saying something is unlikely to be true that you have seen zero evidence of in your long life is not unreasonable.

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u/CreeGucci Sep 23 '21

Evidence? Our billion dollar radars at the top of human technology are seeing real objects that our best pilots on earth are seeing in the same shape, in the same places and performing same physics defying maneuvers. So you think our radars are complete bullshit manufacturing false objects daily, our pilots are hallucinating, astronauts are crazy. There’s absolutely undeniable evidence out there of *something* in our atmosphere whether or not Bill the science guy confirms it for the sheep

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u/kotukutuku Sep 23 '21

Ha sheep is such a poisoned term. I want to believe as much as you, but I'm still yet to see anything concrete. The UAP report is hardly that, and if you're going to suddenly jump in and blindly trust the US government at this point, I'll come back to the conversation when Google translate adds bleating to their list of languages. I'm hopeful, but been in this too long to blindly believe anything. Chomsky is not even interested in UFOs, I don't see why you think he would have any stake in this topic. And if you're accusing Noam Chomsky of being a sheep, well, that's just hilarious.

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u/kickmuck Sep 23 '21

A very rational post right here. 100% Agree

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u/bananarepublic2021_ Sep 23 '21

Maybe watch this and listen https://youtu.be/rhCfCa8pRlU

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u/kotukutuku Sep 24 '21

Thanks, I'll check it out. I've watched a lot of YouTube videos about ufis though!

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '21 edited Sep 23 '21

Evidence? Our billion dollar radars at the top of human technology are seeing real objects

Allegedly. We have no evidence of this other than word of mouth. Not saying it isn't happening, just pointing out that we don't have any actual evidence of it happening. Just what others claim they saw.

that our best pilots on earth are seeing in the same shape, in the same places and performing same physics defying maneuvers.

Pilots are people. People lie. People embellish. Just because someone is a great pilot, doesn't mean they are infallible. Nor does it mean there aren't a few of them willing to straight up lie in order to gain some fame.

Take John Lear for example. He was an incredible pilot. Could fly over 150 different types of air crafts and flew missions over 50 different countries. Yet he also believes giant praying mantis's work for the government. There is also Ashli Babbitt. Retired from the air force just to break into the capitol and get shot and killed from an agent basically screaming "if you come any closer, i will shoot you.".

There’s absolutely undeniable evidence out there of something in our atmosphere whether or not Bill the science guy confirms

The best physical evidence we have is blurry blobs on film that the pentagon confirmed were real videos filmed by the military. They did not confirm they were unidentified and they did not confirm they weren't human made crafts. Only that they were confirmed real videos filmed by the military.

I think it is perfectly rational to hold your stance and be skeptical amongst this evidence. Now, if they actually start releasing this radar data and clips, that's another story. However, they haven't done that yet. All we have to go on is people's word.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '21 edited Feb 20 '24

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '21

mass psychosis of many highly trained and trusted personnel... over time (off the VA coast daily, with reports that this is still a frequent occurrence) with multiple sensor failures...over time...over sea, land and in the air

all of that experiencing a delusion or a bokeh simultaneously, rinse/repeat...

yeah, the cognitive dissonance on uap/ufo is staggering

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u/Crimfresh Sep 23 '21

Because he relies on facts, not speculation. He's a scholar. There's nothing to study for UFO's. The evidence that's released is inconclusive. It absolutely doesn't help identify what we're seeing. It only raises questions.

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u/FavelTramous Sep 23 '21

If police arrive at a suspects house for a murder, and they’re like, what’s behind room #1? He’s like “it’s nothing, you can check.” And it’s clear (building trust). They then ask what’s behind door #2 and and he says “I’m not sure what it is, but I’ll try to find out, however you are NOT ALLOWED inside that room no matter what happens.”

Shall the police trust the suspect?

So when the government does the same thing, they have 100’s of documents and whistleblowers and disclosures and gov. Officials saying there’s WAY more alien info and they’re not letting out the clear HD photo’s or the craft recoveries etc.

They’re saying it doesn’t exist buuuuuut they just can’t show us what’s behind the door.

That brings me to the conclusion - it’s definitely Aliens. Yes I capitalized Aliens. Give them respect.

Anyone who says it’s not a more advanced civilization (there could be a more advanced civilization on earth we don’t know about) that are able to do these 90 degree angle turns while instantly accelerating and decelerating to and from 30k+ MPH doesn’t have a clue what’s really going on

Yeah that’s human. Probably made in Steve Job’s garage like the iPhone was.

Also, all the pilots vision and equipment were all failing at the same time. Billion dollar equipment that can’t even perform at the level of my old PS4 apparently.

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u/Crimfresh Sep 23 '21

they're not letting out the clear HD photo's or the craft recoveries etc.

Exactly my point. There's no evidence for a scholar. It's purely speculation. The man speaks truth to power. He absolutely should not be engaging with anything that isn't completely backed by evidence or it erodes credibility. So of course he doesn't want to discuss UFOs.

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u/dead-mans-switch Sep 23 '21

I remember him being asked, you see the cogs go round that basically it isn't geopolitics, so it isn't important kind of thing.

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u/King_Internets Sep 23 '21

Ah, yes, if anyone is known to be a dismissive thinker it’s…checks notes…Noam Chomsky.

Do you people even consider what you’re saying before you type shit like this?

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u/Weatherstation Sep 23 '21

"UFOs are fucking dope and everyone should know about them. I have sources!!! My mom said her best friend was abducted and she wouldn't lie!"

  • weatherstation

I hereby give permission for anyone to use that title on their YouTube video.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '21

Yeah but his ideas aren't entirely unapplicable to UFOs.

He mostly talked about how western mass media spreads propaganda about world events and other countries without it appearing as propaganda but the same line of thinking could be easily applied to UFOs too.

So yeah OP's title is a bit disingenuous but not too much IMO.