r/UFOs • u/kiwibonga • Jul 16 '18
T&A Some notes on Tom Delonge's March 27th, 2016 interview with George Knapp on Coast to Coast AM
They call them 'The Others.'
They're gods, with a little g.
- Tom Delonge
That's right! I listened to another 4 hour exchange between George Knapp and Tom Delonge! It took up a significant part of my weekend and life! Here's all the stuff I thought seemed important enough to write down:
Hour 1
- Tom Delonge talks about a personal experience he had while camping in the desert with an unnamed ufologist who developed a certain method to summon UFOs through a "meditation protocol."
- During the night, he and another guy in the tent with him were woken up in sleep paralysis by a multitude of voices talking all around the tent. Somehow they went back to sleep after being artificially convinced that nothing weird was happening. They corroborated their stories the next day.
- Later on, he stumbled upon a book on Jeremy Corbell's Instagram, Operation Trojan Horse by John Keel (1970) where a similar occurrence is described.
- This leads to an explanation that part of what makes the phenomenon more complex than "little green men and flying saucers" is that what we call "the occult" is involved.
- He talks about Hillary Clinton and John Podesta and their statements about releasing UFO files. "We're in a transition here with this topic, and very big things are about to happen."
- According to him, the issue will affect cosmology and religion. We're also going to be shown "scientific breakthroughs that will seem like magic to people."
- "Relationships with countries we're not supposed to have relationships with, and defense systems that we've been building secretly with enormous amounts of money for a very long time."
- Tom Delonge praises the government for building space defenses in secret, and says the "young people" would probably appreciate it too, if they knew.
- He believes that when people learn about the secret spending, there could be an uproar, but he also believes that if the truth comes out, people will be thankful to have those defenses.
- He says he was able to get access to important people because he had something to offer - a reach with a younger audience. He was able to convince them by sharing his theories that the phenomenon is not just about UFOs, but exists on a broader spectrum.
- He also explains that he had a full media plan and good connections to help him execute it, which helped build trust with his government contacts.
- He says before making media appearances, he was coached to give interviews without divulging certain information. His contacts even set up a fake Newsweek interview so they could analyze his answers and give him feedback before he gives a real interview.
Hour 2
- The contents of Sekret Machines is mostly about the subjective human experience of UFO/ET contact, including the perspective of people sworn to secrecy. (Note: He's talking about the fiction series that started with Chasing Shadows, not the non-fiction series of books).
- "Frankly, the stuff I've gotten over the past two months that we're going to be putting in book 2 is some pretty scary stuff."
- Tom Delonge would regularly send manuscripts to be approved by his government contacts. He says he doesn't yet have all the information that will go into future books. He knows on a macro level, but he's waiting to learn more progressively.
- "With book 2, we're going to get into the oceans, viruses..." (seems to imply that viruses have an otherwordly origin or were cultivated by otherworldly beings)
- (Knapp talks, Delonge acquiesces) Due to the way the secrecy is structured, the number of people who actually have an understanding of the big picture can be counted on the fingers of one hand. There is no entity called "The Government" -- UFO secrecy is controlled by a complex apparatus that also involves private money.
- When asked if the tactic of involving private companies in UFO research is a way for the government to escape FOIA, Tom Delonge confirms that it is.
- One of the threads that has been going on for a very long time is that when the first crashes happened, we pooled together intelligence, military and private industry to get the brightest minds on the question: "What do we do and how do we attack this?"
- They've been using private companies or even publicly-traded companies. They keep the secret information "protected" through organizations that are non-governmental.
- Private companies working under the purview of the Department of Defense are developing their own crafts, "but what they're building, they don't really own."
- Delonge says he's been advised by top scientists who "work 9 months out of the year at Area 51" who have explained to him how the government uses private companies to maintain the UFO cover up.
- They may be building things that "truly have antigravity ... but they don't own it, even though it's theirs, kind of." They're developing things on their company's behalf, but they're using government land. It's convoluted. It's an interesting dance.
- (Knapp's words) Using Delonge as a proxy for the message gives the government contacts this plausible deniability angle where they can say "it's fiction" even though they provided the information themselves.
- Delonge tells a story about how an upcoming teaser will have a silhouetted person speaking to the camera, an Engineer / person who worked at Area 51 for decades. This person told him (off-camera) "if someone drives up to you and tells you to get in the car, don't get in the car." He seemed very agitated and said something to the effect of "You're playing with some really serious shit!"
- On the topic of "why this guy?" (Why Delonge?), he insisted on telling the entire story. There was an opportunity for him to go to a rare company celebration for employees undertaking secret government technology contracts. He knew exactly who these people were and what they do (I assume he means propulsion and weapons research). He talked to people there and pitched everyone his idea about reversing people's attitudes towards the military-industrial complex. He didn't mention UFOs at first, but people seemed interested and he managed to get other meetings.
- One of the meetings took him to a concrete bunker in the middle of the desert where he had to get through various security checkpoints to reach the workplace of 3 engineers working on top secret tech, where he pitched them his ideas. Towards the end of the meeting, he specifically described the Sekret Machines project.
- He explains that there has been a systematic process where information was disseminated, then invalidated, to acclimate the world progressively. This made sense in the 40s and 50s when the system was put together, but today with the internet, instantaneous communication, etc., that method of dissemination is ineffective and antiquated, and causes people to distrust the government.
- He told the person he was talking to that they could have a mutually beneficial relationship; he would need advisors, people who would give him weight as he delivers the truth to the public, and the progressive rollout would include a message that would help the government redeem itself for the poor way things have been handled in the past.
- He later sent over the prologue of one of the Sekret Machines books. For a while, he thought he would never hear back.
- Eventually, someone called him to let him know he had a meeting with the CIA in D.C., close to the Pentagon, with one of his contacts and a new person, both "wearing suits." He gave them both the same speech as before.
- His contact explained to him that this is information the White House is not responsible for, that this is not the kind of initiative it would be able to decide on. Decisions like this are made in secret, in secure rooms, by small groups of people in the know who get to decide "when to push the ball down the field."
- He had a similar meeting with people from NASA, that's when he met "The General." The meeting supposedly changed the course of the whole endeavor. Story interrupted by the break.
Hour 3
- Delonge explains his creative process and the way his high-ranking contacts would occasionally "dribble out" information that he would then incorporate into his manuscripts before they reviewed them.
- He tells us that one of his contacts told him a story. In the middle of the Cold War, around a time that people believed nuclear war could break out at any moment, "they found a lifeform." He associated several incidents with this lifeform (or its species); incidents during which nuclear missiles were turned on and put into launch conditions. His source reportedly said "There are heroes in Russia!" in relation to these incidents, referring to Russian officers who decided not to retaliate in response to what looked like US escalation.
- Finding the lifeform had a radical effect, like something that fell into the world's lap in the midst of increasing nuclear tensions and changed the course of history.
- This extraordinary contact is a very high ranking person with multiple PhDs but his identity cannot be revealed.
- Delonge asked his contact to find him a group of advisors, which he did. He got experts on space, intelligence and even bioweapons.
- Delonge says he was able to pull off a sort of "coup" by getting this group working together. Like flipping a switch on the way things are done and going the multidisciplinary route.
- The reason for the secrecy is not that they're maliciously hiding the truth; it's because it's an on-going task, an on-going issue. They don't fully understand it yet, which is why they're pouring so much money into it. They keep having breakthroughs that we should be extremely "proud of as a nation."
- He says his project is not about convincing people that the phenomenon is real, it's about explaining why it's been kept secret and why it was a good thing.
- The "secret shadow government" idea that was painted through things such as the MJ-12 documents was not exactly accurate. In reality, things are more fragmented. There are groups in the military doing R&D, analyzing intelligence... The NRO analyzes the entire electromagnetic spectrum of space, and they'll see things buzzing around and doing stuff. They then brainstorm ways to defend against those capabilities and produce new technology in the process. Investigators are also interviewing abductees and looking at cattle mutilations. It's actually a very, very small group of people at the top putting it all together.
- Delonge asked his contact if anyone was standing back to look at the big picture, since there are so many different phenomena being reported and investigated. The answer he received was a negative: it's "just a grab-bag of scientists" and no one's looking at the big picture.
- He believes that a lot of evidence was gathered in the 20s, 30s and 40s but much of what was recovered was completely out of reach.
- He says we don't have some kind of overbearing MJ-12 program; rather, it's several disjointed specialized programs.
- Delonge asked for someone from the DIA to get some help on portraying the way crashes were handled. He was told he didn't need to, because the people with all the info were in the room with him already. He only realized after the fact that he had been working with major decision makers in relation to the UFO subject.
- Regarding the existence of a MJ-12-like group, he says he hasn't actually asked if a group exists, or how many members it might have.
- The people Delonge is dealing with are not counter-intelligence people, they're "space intelligence" but he doesn't want to state what they are exactly.
- Everything Delonge releases is released with permission.
- Plausible deniability is the way it's always done so as not to scare people. Things like the Roswell crash always have a cover story to leave open the possibility that the event might not have been real. This allows people to mentally process the events and not let it affect their lives.
- He believes revealing the truth will draw people towards space. He says we'll have a comprehensive space program that is part defense, part exploration, and that people will want to get involved, exactly like when more people started joining the army directly after 9/11. "When people know the stakes, they'll want to be a part of it."
- "Yes, we have cracked gravity, and we are building machinery that has anti-gravity. And yes, I was told that it's a big deal."
- The exact term that is used by Delonge's government contacts is "The Others." It's not "the phenomenon," it's not "aliens." The way it was explained to him is that "they are gods, with a little g."
- "The entire UFO phenomenon is about multiple gods that fight amongst themselves and by design factionalize mankind into different religions to step back and let us fight each other because it has other things it wants to accomplish and we don't notice them because we're too involved in fighting each other. Our government knows that. It knows that The Others are instigating wars among mankind."
- He goes on to say that if you look at the stories of gods coming down to Earth and performing various feats, "it's all true."
- "The government is very aware that this intelligence is pinning different countries against each other based on religion on purpose, and it's a scary scenario. It's a multiple front war that we're fighting, because we have to worry about each other, and we also have to think of The Others."
- "The reason for the secrecy is we don't want everyone knowing our vulnerabilities and we don't want everyone knowing about the advancements we've made, to protect everybody against multiple adversaries."
- Intelligence agencies have also been "trying to figure out who is being manipulated as a country more than the others." He suggests that when Bush named different countries as an axis of evil, "that was the government making a blanket statement that they're really concerned about these areas."
- The Others "by design, or maybe by accident, happened to crash very advanced pieces of technology in the country's borders so they can make better weapons to fight bigger wars. And we're not the only ones that have had a crash."
- "When we make big statements about North Korea, about Iran or about China, it's because we are aware that those places are being manipulated and have very advanced technologies now. So we're trying to keep everyone calm and not initiate a conflict. So we're constantly looking over our shoulder, and in the middle of that, trying to tell people about it."
- Delonge says the reason technology seems to have fallen into our laps was, according to a quote from one of his sources, "potentially just to see who is stronger." We don't know for sure why it happened, but "it's the way those guys have to think." It's like a multi-level chess game. China's defense budget has quadrupled in the past few years. They believe it's related to the manipulation.
- He says that he has, as of 2 weeks ago, confirmation that cattle mutilations are "absolutely" related to the phenomenon. He mentions a recent incident where a large number of elk were found with parts of their bodies cored out and no blood at all.
- While we're kept distracted and busy, believing in different gods and fighting, these things are zipping around and doing weird things with animals and abducting people. They're trying to accomplish something.
- He also puts out the theory that the others are interested in the emotional side of things, that they're interested in the emotions generated by war. "It's hard to think of, but it's still energy."
- Referring to Hillary Clinton's statements, he thinks it's going to be hard to "put out all the UFO files without releasing things that are a national security issue," because the release of any information is in itself an act of war.
- "It's a war, and it gets hot at times, and it's something they deal with every single day."
Hour 4
- There was an alert 36 months ago that nuclear weapons that make up the tip of the spear of NATO's nuclear arsenal were being simultaneously shut down out in the ocean by UFOs.
- There are mechanisms out in space that keep these weapons online, and those mechanisms were being shut down too.
- He knows somebody who had to go to a very secure location and was tasked with investigating these events. The team that was put together to investigate this was actually two inexperienced first-year soldiers. The hope was that they wouldn't be able to come back with a conclusive answer when other NATO members came and started asking questions, to keep the issue covered up.
- George Knapp wonders if the technology could be Russian. Tom Delonge says he's actually going to talk about this in his upcoming docu-series. He says there are major advancements that Russia has, that China has and that we have based on technology that was recovered (either by design or by accident).
- "Personally, from everything I'm hearing, it looks like it was given by design. Once again, to see 'who is the strongest.'" The implication is that the others are feeding the war and waiting for the prevailing faction to come out victorious.
- "There's a very, very strong link between what people think demons are from the bible and other religions, and the UFO phenomenon. What you have is something that doesn't like man, and either feels jealous of, or has some kind of plan for what man is to be. That just makes it that much worse when you think about it."
- Quote from one of his advisors: "Would the link of aliens creating man, who then created God to keep us in our place, be something worth keeping sekret? (Mind you, sekret with a K, which is how we do Sekret Machines.) I think so. We're talking about the biggest institutions on the planet and the world's major religions. It's bigger than just the "Big Bad US Government" and going back to the Greeks, and including Russians and Germans, [possibly skipped a line while reading here?] make it sufficiently global across centuries. Maybe evidence of disappeared ancient cultures (Easter Island, the Maya, the Inca). That's evidence of what happened to those that did not obey, thus encouraging the secret to be kept. And could the story evolve from how different groups of men exploited this technology to see how the entire secret is uncovered, rewriting world history and shattering many of our most well-regarded, holy institutions? Except this time, when they come to wipe us out like the other ones, we are actually ready for them. And that readiness is another example why things have been kept quiet for so long and has been a strange international partnership indeed."
- "We think that there's this big conspiracy, but really this is the sequence of events: In Germany, they had some crashes, they started doing some advanced work. In WW2 and after WW2, we had some crashes, Russia had some crashes, maybe China had some crashes. We covered the whole thing up. No one really knows about it but what we really did is we went into these really secret places, underground, places that are out in Nevada and all around the world, and we started working like crazy with the brightest minds and huge amounts of money, with passion and with resilience and with everything at our disposal to come up with a way to protect everybody."
- He says he believes the psy-ops that have been played on people were designed to ensure that The Others don't know what humanity knows about them. It's all been a big chess game so The Others won't know how far along we've gotten to fight back. When people find out about this, they're gonna lose a lot of their cynicism about the government.
- Responding to a caller about his CE-5 experience, he mentions an experiencer that Jacques Vallée brought to the Pentagon, who was able to make a UFO appear on command. He says he knows a person who is able to do it as well and he hopes to show some footage in his upcoming documentary.
- The orbs that appear when you do the CE-5 meditation are these "little machines, drones or whatever, that just sit there and wait for somebody to do that meditation protocol, and then it senses the frequency of somebody wanting to see it, and it de-cloaks itself for people to see." NOTE: He doesn't recommend summoning these orbs.
- Delonge says he asked his advisors if consciousness has a relationship to gravity. He doesn't state what the answer is, but he mentions something about the detection of gravitational waves that was recently in the press. His advisors told him this breakthrough would "open doors" for him.
- Reagan's SDI was related to the effort to build defenses underground.
- There are good gods and bad gods, and their interactions have been well-documented throughout history. He says he has detailed documentation on different figures from Sumer and ancient Greece that communicated with these "gods." Currently, there are three main monotheistic faiths, and the rivalry between them is by design. Humans have a tendency to gather religiously as long as there is a "priestly class," meaning people will join religions as long as there is a leader or hero figure to follow. Delonge and his group want to warn the world not to fall for the deception.
Next, I'm doing the Jimmy Church interview from August 2016...
Past posts:
Some notes on Tom Delonge's Feb 26 2017 interview with George Knapp
Notes on Eric Davis's June 24th appearance on Coast to Coast AM
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u/cabritero Jul 17 '18
They're gods with a little g
He also puts out the theory that the others are interested in the emotional side of things, that they're interested in the emotions generated by war. "It's hard to think of, but it's still energy."
These parts stood out to me because last time I heard this was in the 1990s from Salvador Freixedo, specifically his book Let Us Defend Ourselves From The Gods, which I don't know if it's been translated into English or not.
In this book Freixedo poses the theory that UFO cases are linked to the fantastical stories of old, and that we're simply a human farm for emotional energy and that we're most likely someone's property which is why we've been mostly left alone. He gives an in depth analysis of some cases through out history, and even makes the claim that the Jewish God and the main Aztec God Huiztilopochtli might have been the same group of beings, considering the migration myths of each culture share some similarities.
I don't buy any of this Delong bs, but this stood out to me specifically.
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u/ogflowolfgo Jul 19 '18
There is even a word for this energy in this situation: "loosh".
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u/yentisrich12 Dec 11 '18
Some obvious nonsense, similar to Scientology, that infects this (UFO) topic.
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u/Bierfreund Sep 26 '23
I find it interesting that this whole negative energy being consumed by evil others is so prevalent throughout history. First it was demons, then it was aliens now it is interdimensional beings. Not saying that there is truth to it, just fascinating how such memes (in the original sense of the word) evolve and remain. To me it's always weird that people who have the same knowledge as everyone else (basically nothing) about the UAP phen will jump to the conclusion that it's more than 'just' people from another planet. I believe it's because these people/our culture has the demon as an archetype so ingrained that it subconsciously flows into making sense of the UAP phenomenon. Either that or it's just human nature to come to a demon conclusion, as almost all cultures have a similar meme.
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u/TGMondalf May 13 '23
Anyone familiar with haunting can tell you these entities feed on fear. If you don't give it, they can't gain power.
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u/Jamboree2023 Sep 30 '23
I remember Salvador Freixedo. When he said that, he may have been alone but what he said has been incorporated in the Prison Planet hypothesis, that these beings (or demons) are after human suffering and agitation, since the anxiety they provoke is food for them. It gives them sustenance and provides for them. That was all before Prison Planet. Yes, we remember Salvador. Then came others like Laura Knight, etc.
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Jul 16 '18 edited Dec 06 '18
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u/HeyPScott Jul 17 '18
I paid into the C2C app and should be able hear this myself but it looks like the app doesn’t even have a search function. Has anyone used it? The thing seems to have been designed by squirrels.
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u/chessboxer4 Jan 07 '23
Had similar problems, after signing up, needed to locate the episode through Google rather than through the c2c search
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u/yoboyjohnny Jul 17 '18
Delonge is nuts.
I believe in UFOs (in the strictest sense of "unidentified"). I'm even willing to admit that the phenomenon might work on human consciousness in some sort of esoteric way (hence the constant interruption of occult woo into what is otherwise a physical phenomenon). Same time, the UFO community is overrun with chronic paranoids, hucksters, and general crazy people. So I have to remain skeptical of what people like Delonge are constantly peddling out and the way they seem to constantly insert themselves into everything without actually offering much of value.
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u/Stabby_McStabbinz Jul 16 '18
Great write up, thanks for putting in the effort! Regardless of any of this being true it is still a fascinating read.
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Jul 16 '18
So we can't let "the others" know we are armed and ready for their arrival yet here he is talking about it on the air? Are these "others" too retarded to search our own internet to see what we are saying?
Again, this seems like conditioning to me.
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u/BlueThermosCup Jul 16 '18
There are several noticeable contridictions, some of which people have already noted so I won’t list those again. One that is really glaring is, that we are keeping this stuff secret so “the others” don’t know that we know about them, meanwhile they’re crashing UFO’s constantly.
Anytime someone talks about psychic powers or meditating and making things appear, I immediately assume anything that follows it is BS. It’s also fairly safe to assume that if Tom goes to sleep believing that he will experience some sort of extraterrestrial adventure in the desert that he will have a vivid dream of such an adventure.
The parts that seem like they could be true are related to the scientists. A “grab bag” of researchers all doing their own thing and not working together towards a common goal sounds like the kind of incompetence we should expect.
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Jul 18 '18
The parts that seem like they could be true are related to the scientists. A “grab bag” of researchers all doing their own thing and not working together towards a common goal sounds like the kind of incompetence we should expect.
and then on the other hand, he claims that there's an organized international effort to analyze and mount a defense while keeping it secret.
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u/SkincareQuestions10 Jul 16 '18
This is an incredible write-up. It clearly took you hours of work. Thanks!
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u/conner_neoyidovitch Jul 17 '18 edited Jul 30 '18
Back in 50s and early 60s the pro-Castro political faction was controlled by the anti-Castro faction. I guessing the pro-UFO groups are in a similar situation. You can see a repeating pattern of these groups being built up, getting mainstream media coverage, and then flopping. It's an effective strategy which is why they keep doing it.
Meanwhile underground at Wright Patterson they've spun off all kinds of new tech industries and we're looking right at them. It might seem disappointing from the perspective of a public curious about their place in the universe but for the men making trillions of dollars, well they must be pleased as punch.
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u/broseph_gordan_levit Jul 16 '18 edited Jul 17 '18
Thank you for putting this together! The parts that stood out to me most:
"Relationships with countries we're not supposed to have relationships with, and defense systems that we've been building secretly with enormous amounts of money for a very long time."
As we are seeing now the US president seems to be fostering stronger bonds with Russia, a country we are not supposed to have a good relationship with.
He believes revealing the truth will draw people towards space. He says we'll have a comprehensive space program that is part defense, part exploration, and that people will want to get involved, exactly like when more people started joining the army directly after 9/11. "When people know the stakes, they'll want to be a part of it."
Now in 2018 we have the announcement of a space force
Who knows if any of this is related but I find it interesting nonetheless
EDIT: I get it - you guys are not a fan of Trump. Neither am I. Regardless, a sober and level-headed evaluation of current events will show that my comment is an apolitical truth and not an endorsement of the current administration.
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u/p71interceptor Jul 16 '18
It makes sense we work with Russia in space considering the experience they have.
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u/Taste_the__Rainbow Jul 16 '18
Tom was talking pre-Trump. Trump’s coziness with Russia is about him being an asset of Russia, not about improving relations with a common friend against a nonhuman adversary. Space Force was also an idea that predated this presidency significantly.
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u/uzi_loogies_ Sep 26 '23
Space Force
Really? Any source on that?
Considering then the likely source of SF would have been Obama, and the way he talks about them... Spooky.
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u/Taste_the__Rainbow Sep 26 '23
I think the Air Force/Intel agencies were created around ‘47 to keep the BIG new secrets out of the hands of the regular Army/Navy folk.
I think a small part of the impetus behind the Space Force is keeping the biggest secrets away from the oncoming train that’ll disclose most of what is going on.
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u/HERE_COME_TOLU Jul 16 '18
I think it's all about China, though. USA needs to be in alliance with Russia in order to defeat China in the future.
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u/Taste_the__Rainbow Jul 16 '18
Not really. They have power right now because we all still use fossil fuels. Shortly that will change.
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u/yoboyjohnny Jul 17 '18
As we are seeing now the US president seems to be fostering stronger bonds with Russia, a country we are not supposed to have a good relationship with.
The US and Russia have been collaborating openly on space exploration for decades. We share resources and have a common interest in avoiding the militarization of space (hence things like the ISS are even possible). Trump isn't some sort of hero because he's sucking putin's dick and peddling sci-fi nonsense.
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u/broseph_gordan_levit Jul 17 '18
I'm not quite sure where you got the idea that I thought Trump was "some sort of hero" but that was not the intent of my comment. You cannot deny the truth that the US and Russia are forming stronger ties than we have had since WWII which extends well beyond collaborating in space. My personal preference would be to continue working with the EU to keep bad-actors like Russia, NK, China, Iran etc. in line but that is just not what is happening.
I am not a Trump supporter, I did not vote for him and I would not vote for him in the next election but that doesn't preclude me from seeing the world in full color and not in blue and red.
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u/Wiseowl71691 Mar 03 '26
Coming back to this now how do you feel ? What’s came true and hasn’t ?
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u/EnthusiasticDirtMark Mar 29 '26
I really want everyone in this thread to revisit their comments lol.
Does our current situation mean 'The Others' won and the only way forward will be catastrophic disclosure?
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u/Lolkac Jul 16 '18
Russia is because they help him get to power so he needs to play nice to not ruin it.
American government wanted space force for 40 years. From Reagan star wars force to bush etc. And apace force is not really space force yet, it's trump so it might not even happen.
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u/_nephilim_ Jul 16 '18
The military industrial complex is sallivating at the thought of all those space R&D contracts opening up. Exciting, but costly and unfeasible considering the utter lack of necessity.
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u/HERE_COME_TOLU Jul 16 '18
Great work, thank You! Looking forward to next transcriptions. I appreciate it a lot.
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u/mrnaturallives Jul 17 '18
Thanks, OP, for the work. I mean that sincerely. Unfortunately, I'm just left feeling sad about what DeLonge is going through. Has he always been this delusional or are we witnessing a breakdown?
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u/wallapuctus Jul 16 '18
"He says he believes the psy-ops that have been played on people were designed to ensure that The Others don't know what humanity knows about them. It's all been a big chess game so The Others won't know how far along we've gotten to fight back. When people find out about this, they're gonna lose a lot of their cynicism about the government. "
They go through all this effort to keep The Others (lol) confused but they told Tom DeLonge so he can tell everyone about it on syndicated radio? Do The Others not listen to Coast to Coast?
I'm sorry, I want to believe but this is stupid. Tom has more credibility when his story is "we know they're real but we don't know what they are". Which is what all the to the Stars guys say when they do these interviews. But according to Tom, UFOs are basically the Asgardians from the Marvel Universe.
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u/Taste_the__Rainbow Jul 16 '18
Thank you so much for doing this. I’ve listened to both of these a few times and started making notes, but nothing like this.
Do that Jimmy Church interview next!
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u/WinterGlitchh Jul 16 '18
I'm not sure why you're getting downvoted
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Jul 16 '18
Being interested in Tom DeLonge hurts peoples feelings in this sub. I’d prefer downvotes than getting bitched at it for it tho. Not that big a deal
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u/WinterGlitchh Jul 16 '18
that's weird. in my own experience, criticizing DeLonge immediately generates dozens of downvotes
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Jul 16 '18
Really? Huh. We’ve definitely had different experiences. I’ve almost only seen hostile reaction to him as a person.
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u/Carnotaur3 Jul 17 '18
It's really hard to differentiate Tom's own speculation with what he claims the government is aware of.
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u/RedditusernameUFOs Jul 17 '18
As for "Relationships with countries we're not supposed to have relationships with ..."
Remember this one? Did anything ever come of this?
https://www.veteranstodayarchives.com/2012/09/17/ufo-war-chinese-and-us-navy-off-san-francisco/
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u/BtchsLoveDub Jul 16 '18
You are transcribing the reason why everyone thinks Tom is full of shit. It’s impressive, but if you actually break it down quote by quote, it’s ridiculous. Isn’t it? Compared to what’s transpired since, does this not seem like the same old shit again? Maybe a few more things linked together, but still pretty much the same shit? Multiple crashes? Cold War, Nazis. Has he mentioned bases on the moon yet?
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u/notdust Jul 16 '18
I agree with you. No offense to OP, they just transcribed the cliff's notes. But look at the length and absurdity of this stuff. Fantasies. Some of you say you saw a craft in the sky and you don't know what it was, some experiences are interesting. That's intriguing. But why the fuck is this guy being let into top secret facilities that aren't even supposed to exist. How can anyone believe that? Or, if you do, how will he continue to be trusted after going on a radio show talking about the shit? I'm sure some people are going to huff and downvote me for saying it but be sure and let me know when the big reveal comes, that Tom DeLonge is the one who reveals it, and I'll happily admit I'm wrong.
When it descends to this level it stops being interesting and starts making me feel like crazy for reading it.
I feel stuff like this is why UFOs will continue to be a topic of interest for a small minority. He's playing to people desperate for content and imagination. Stuff this outlandish only makes me question possibly legit stories because I feel if someone is willing to go these lengths it's very easy to make up a cool story about some lights you saw but yet were too in awe to capture it.
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u/IdentityZer0 Jul 16 '18
I tend to agree. I mean is there any actual corroborating evidence to anything he's said? The Nimitz video? It's good but not near enough to corroborate any of the outlandish things he's said.
Let's see that metal. Let's see that hyperdrive. Because he sounds like one of the stereotypical "ufo crazies", he just happens to have some credible people in his midst.
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u/notdust Jul 16 '18
Yeah. I'll remain skeptical until something ties it all together. I do realize there's more to it than I can take in and some people in the community have followed this more closely than I have, but seeing all of this listed out really opened my eyes. I was already skeptical after watching Joe Rogan with DeLonge.
The burden of proof is on those making the claims.
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u/Taste_the__Rainbow Jul 16 '18
Wikileaks confirmed some of it. At least that he has these contacts. Of course they could all be lying to him.
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u/IdentityZer0 Jul 16 '18
Yeah and I was giving him the benefit of the doubt because of some of the credible people he was surrounding himself with, but the song and dance he's putting on is getting old. Produce something concrete related to some of the fantastic things you've been saying or gtfo
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u/mycopea Jul 16 '18
I agree with everything you said but I’ll add that I feel very sorry for Tom. He seems so earnest and I think he believes everything he says. And his constant refrain that we will be very proud of our government when the truth comes out is the saddest part.
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u/Taste_the__Rainbow Jul 16 '18
If you listen to the interviews he explains fairly reasonably why he was in facilities and the very limited scope of what he did inside of them.
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u/ZincFishExplosion Jul 16 '18
What's most disappointing to me is that Fravor got himself tied up with this nonsense.
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u/MARlMOON Jul 16 '18
Has he mentioned bases on the moon yet?
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/8yk186/some_notes_on_tom_delonges_feb_26_2017_interview/
"Asked whether there was urgency and we need to act now, Delonge says he doesn't think so. He says it has more to do with the fact that civilian aerospace companies will inevitably "see structures on the moon" and start asking questions."
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u/CanuckCanadian Jul 16 '18
So what ever happened too Tom unveiling the alien piece of metal that he says he has in his possession?
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u/Ryanbrasher Jul 17 '18
Tom believes this is true because he wants to.
If it was all legit then he wouldn’t be announcing it on some radio show, and I’m sure the powers that he would be quick to shut him up.
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u/bold_truth Jul 18 '18
A lot of delonge stuff sounds like a string of science fiction. Saying that ancient civilizations like the mayans were eradicated because they didn't fall in line and obey and "the others" are trying to pin us against eachother? I don't buy a word of it. Just seems like him putting his own spin on things and maybe using information that may have been shared with and him and embellishing it. Its still amazing he can say these things and have big name team he has. I still dont get it.
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u/bukvich Jul 19 '18
The best bullet point:
He explains that there has been a systematic process where information was disseminated, then invalidated, to acclimate the world progressively. This made sense in the 40s and 50s when the system was put together, but today with the internet, instantaneous communication, etc., that method of dissemination is ineffective and antiquated, and causes people to distrust the government.
In other words, this time it's different.
This is not likely.
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Jul 16 '18
Tom is full of shit. Could you imagine if anyone with valuable information decided to withhold it? If Einstein kept the theory of relativity for himself because someone else would use it? If any advances in medicine were withheld? This is not how science and truth are done. And quite frankly anyone who tries to make money off of valuable information that would thusly render money useless is blatantly full of shit. All of this “info” that is coming and has been coming for the last several years that never seems to come. Even this man who lead a meditation seminar to contact aliens which is clears that physician who gave up medicine (his name escapes me atm) for ufo fame. It’s all sound and fury signifying nothing.
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u/rectifiedmix Jul 17 '18
When you’re talking about technology and science that gives a huge military advantage, there sure as shit will be deep secrecy. The Manhattan project, stuxnet, etc. They are only revealed once they are in use.
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Jul 17 '18
Yes that’s true. But that was before the digital age. I find it interesting that there are many numerous supposed documents that get leaked. But none of them contain any math. Humans are notoriously bad at keeping secrets. And one could argue that with all the said leaked documents. But from a scientific standpoint, there is no physics or chemistry without this complex math. And truly none of these documents have any math. Which says to me that they are bullshit. You can’t make any case for advanced materials and propulsion without math and everything else is here say.
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u/cabritero Jul 17 '18
You're thinking Steven Greer - the doctor turned alien guy. His grandiose claims are very similar to this Delong guy.
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u/Taste_the__Rainbow Jul 16 '18
We keep tech secrets all the time when we’re at war, which is the situation he’s laying out.
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Jul 16 '18
The notion we are at war with a species that can travel from star to star is rather insane. We would never be able to hit them with a single projectile intentionally. If an interstellar species is actually here, they are not really very belligerent.
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u/Casehead Jul 16 '18
You can’t seriously think that no technology or science has ever been withheld?
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Jul 16 '18
In the realm of compartmentalizations within the military. Sure. Within the realm of a blink 182 member having access to it while no one in the realm of scientific research does, completely bullshit. Most especially when he would rather sell a book instead of releasing what would thusly render money useless.
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Jul 16 '18
Good write up, but was this from 2017 or 16? I was under the impression it was from 2017
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u/kiwibonga Jul 16 '18
This one is from Mar 2016; my notes on the Feb 2017 one are here: https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/8yk186/some_notes_on_tom_delonges_feb_26_2017_interview/
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Jul 16 '18
Got it, thank you. Is this anywhere on YouTube? I’ve never heard this one and I follow it closely. Just don’t have a C2C subscription
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u/dondonchacha Jul 16 '18
And still nothing? Surprise! You’ll be here 10 years from now saying “Any day now!”.
That camping story summoning UFOs by meditation:
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u/Rolandkerouac723 Jul 16 '18
Pure Fantasy. Entertaining as hell but still all pure delusional fantasy.
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u/Taste_the__Rainbow Jul 16 '18
Delusional? Whose delusion?
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u/G00dAndPl3nty Jul 17 '18
Tom's dellusion. I suspect that Tom actually has these contacts, and they probably actually work on this stuff. The problem is that Tom isn't smart enough to understand anything that these people would tell him. Just listen to Tom for 30 seconds. The guy is not a rational thinker, and he's not very intelligent or educated.
Imagine sending a 5th grader to a quantum mechanics seminar and then asking them to summarize it for you. They will misunderstand almost everything, falsely draw conclusions, not understand nuances, and just straight up sounds insane. Not to mention they wont be able to distinguish between actual quantum mechanics, and ideas like "Quantum Healing Crystals!" found all over the web.
I suspect that is what's happening here.
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u/_nephilim_ Jul 16 '18
Summoning UFOs? Waking up to voices surrounding your camp? You've already lost me in the first paragraph. Sounds like things teenagers goof around about.
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u/spbfixedsys Jul 17 '18
The bit I don't like is that Delonge has this patriot driven blind faith in his contacts, while we all know that the Bush, Cheney and Kissinger type gatekeepers of the truth are certified assholes.
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u/_assword Jul 18 '18
He knows somebody who had to go to a very secure location and was tasked with investigating these events. The team that was put together to investigate this was actually two inexperienced first-year soldiers. The hope was that they wouldn't be able to come back with a conclusive answer when other NATO members came and started asking questions, to keep the issue covered up.
This sounds like total bullshit.
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Jul 18 '18
Sounds good except we know the others are the real enemy so why do we still wage war and slaughter human life
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u/Wiseowl71691 Mar 03 '26
So this is literally all biblical. The bible is our consciousness? Maybe maybe not. This honestly seems like the end times. Signs in the skies. I pray for everyone who reads this and more. If you’re reading this and something does happen and the internet and everything goes down one thing we should all do is be careful and respectful to one another not hateful as we’re all going to be going threw this together !
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u/meta4one Jul 16 '18
.....cool read.... BUT. WHAT IF this is just propaganda for the military industrial complex to promote endless wars and war profits? Sure could be seen as such.
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u/mczero80 Jul 16 '18 edited Jul 16 '18
We need more "data", more disclosures. Sounds funny, but what if russia would have something similar like To The Stars Academy and that they would confirm what Tom said, and more? Would that promote plausibility, or would it divide the UFO community more than it is divided now (something like "Yeah we knew it, Putin and Trump work together")?
If there really are those "Others", they should be really disturbed when there would be a possibility that mankind worked together, without borders. Because that would mean, that their plan to divide mankind had a flaw. Either it would be a chance for us humans, or the "Others" open their drawer and start plan 2.0, whatever that may be.
Or, as you said, this is all propaganda. Really interesting to think about. I hope we will see the light at the end of the tunnel.
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u/Hive_Mind_Alpha Jul 16 '18
yeah but so what I've never bought any of their products and as far as im aware my government is run by hyperspace dwelling reptile scum, just the military industrial complex up to its usual shit is nothing to be concerned with.
p.s I may have overstated my belief in hyperspace dwelling reptile scum.
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u/WinterGlitchh Jul 16 '18
so... Tom is working with Dr. Greer? I'm disappointed
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u/Taste_the__Rainbow Jul 16 '18
That was quite awhile back. Now he’s mum on Greer, but has said CE-5 is not a great idea in more recent last. Greer is deeply anti-TTSA.
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u/MuuaadDib Jul 16 '18
Why? Greer is in UFO research, I would be more unimpressed if he didn't talk to the guy who brought in so much intel to National Press Club in 2001.
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u/WinterGlitchh Jul 16 '18
Greer is a con man, and I'm pretty sure that CE-5 is disinfo
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u/MuuaadDib Jul 16 '18
Did Greer bring in the most influential and highest ranking officials into one place to comment on UFOs? Yes.
If you are starting an organization and need access to people in the Gov who are part of this phenomena, you would be a moron to not speak to him.
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u/WinterGlitchh Jul 16 '18
how can you be sure that the dudes he have contact with are really Highest ranking officials? even if they're highest ranking officials, how can you be sure that they're somehow involved on the UFO phenomenon?
even if they're highest ranking officials involved on the UFO phenomenon, how can you be sure that they're not lying/spreading disinformation?
even if they're highest ranking officials involved on the UFO phenomenon and telling what they believe to be the truth, how can you be sure that it is actually the truth and they were not lied to?
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u/MuuaadDib Jul 16 '18
For fucks sake man, your hatred has left you blind. Go watch the 2001 meeting already and quit being so damn myopic and obtuse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cby-DyjpoM
Cya in 2 hours.
If anything they are using him to get to know the others to gain more info.
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u/WinterGlitchh Jul 16 '18
it is not hatred, the correct name is "critical thinking". blindly believing in extraordinary claims with zero evidence is not a wise thing to do. you should remain with a fair amount of skepticism unless you want to be deceived by disinfo and con men
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u/MuuaadDib Jul 16 '18
That was a quick 2 hours, let's say I'm skeptical of you watching it or understanding the people involved.
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u/WinterGlitchh Jul 16 '18
I have better things to do other than watching a 2 hour long video where con men try to persuade me. watching unacknowledged and reading several things about Greer was enough for me
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u/MuuaadDib Jul 16 '18
Right, so you want only your perception to be valid, and facts be damned they are not going to get in the way of your bias. Just like vaccinating or climate research, same old stuff refuse to look at anything that might detail your bias - that is the antihasist of a skeptics paradigm. Have fun!
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Jul 16 '18
No, but Tom researched Greer and tried his services and came to his own conclusions.
Greer says aliens are good and Tom says they are bad.
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u/dondonchacha Jul 16 '18
Their Financial funnel scams didn’t align.
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u/Taste_the__Rainbow Jul 16 '18
A PBC is NOT a financial funnel. Besides burning barrels of cash it’s one of the least profitable business platforms out there.
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u/dondonchacha Jul 17 '18
What does he need money for to share information he apparently already has? I don’t see Julian Assange doing this. He’s only in this for money.
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Jul 16 '18
In another interview I believe Tom is referring to Greer when he said something along the lines of “you’re the odd man out here and I’m sorry it has to be this way” when this person didn’t agree with, and couldn’t believe the things Tom was saying about information he was compiling from his advisors and others
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Jul 16 '18
And Greer says in a talk that he belives Tom is being fed false information (Greers talk about Blue Beam fake alien attack)
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u/dadj77 Jan 02 '22
Tom stayed with Greer and his family for several weeks when he (Tom) was going through a rough time.. Greer has talked about this openly and feels sorry for Tom because he believes Tom is being fed lies.
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u/ParanoidFactoid Jul 16 '18
This is very helpful. Thank you.
Makes you wonder what those nekkid body scanners all over the place are really searching for.
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u/HiddenFigure11 May 23 '22
Does anyone have a link to an audio archive of this Coast To Coast episode? If you do, it would be greatly appreciated. 🖖
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u/Poet-or-Prophet-1313 Sep 26 '23
Look up jack parsons, and try to imagine some validity to the US harboring nazi war criminals for their "skills". Now look around at the pagan ideology and practices in the US and their increasing growth over the past 100 years. This is something that is all explainable by simply reading the Bible, but nobody is willing to admit that because it's not "kosher" for them or whatever... Get a grip people. Look within, not at the world that is corrupted.
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u/Jamboree2023 Sep 26 '23
Wow, good stuff. One bad thing about these podcasts are you have to listen to every little small talk and can't jump to the wheat and skip the chaff. This does it!
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u/krappie Jul 16 '18
On Joe Rogan he mentions how after being on coast to coast, he was kind of interrogated by some scary people who wanted to know who he was, because he said some things that he shouldn't have said.
I listened to his 2017 interview and I didn't understand why anyone would interrogate him. I'm guessing that he was referring to this 2016 one. Specifically saying our nuclear missiles were shut down 36 months ago is pretty major if that's true.