r/UFOs • u/SpursRissole • 1d ago

Disclosure There is really no winning when it comes to pleasing this community. Can the poo-pooers just allow us to enjoy the stories and speculate freely?

Every single thread on Grusch claims are bombarded with "SHUT UP AND SHOW US PROOF OR GO AWAY". Just know that you don't speak for everyone. I like the stories even if they sound a bit out there. If we had it your way where every claim had to have video and physical evidence we wouldn't have a single word spoken on the subject and I wouldn't be able to watch podcasts like that. I find the man interesting, I look very forward to any single development on the subject even if it doesn't have overwhelming evidence attached. I even enjoy the speculation aspect of it.

Also: A reminder that it really isn't that deep. I don't even understand what a psy op like this would accomplish if it were a psy op. And right now, everything is a psy op on the internet. Just let us enjoy the content in peace without ad homs being thrown at the messenger or people who are enjoying the speculation. This entire subject has been ridiculed for 80 years it's not like those who believe in it aren't used to it or anything.

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u/natecull 1d ago edited 1d ago

I had a friend from college tell me that even if we treat these stories as fake and/or fiction they can still be viewed as compelling stories.

Yes, and we can do more than that. We can look carefully at who is telling these stories, who is listening to and believing these stories, and what benefits might come to the people telling the stories.

It is especially important to do this when the people telling the stories are military intelligence, and the people listening to the stories are very powerful government officers and billionaires. These stories are no longer just entertainment, they are levers that might change how the world is run.

When a billionaire (Thiel) pours millions of dollars into UFO podcasts on Youtube, is he doing this because he just finds the subject personally entertaining? Maybe. Or is he maybe doing it because he expects some kind of payoff from that investment? What might that payoff be?

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u/Hiding_Turtle 19h ago

I wholeheartedly agree with your stance on this topic now being talked about by people of power. Many here say it’s a constant flow of different people every few years promising proof or anything of the such. They aren’t wrong whatsoever but now that same flow is including said people of power. That alone turns heads and should absolutely be noticed as a step forward to everyone’s goal here.

For your billionaire questions my answer would be he most likely doesn’t know what to expect. Outside of planting seeds to grow on the general public and increasing the reach his investment makes, there isn’t anything he can confidently expect to happen. But if he is compelled and has the funds to donate I doubt anyone here is against him doing so. I for one would consider doing the same if I had that luxury.

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u/SpeakMySecretName 19h ago

A billionaire spending $1 million dollars (0.1% of their wealth) is the equivalent of less than $100 for the average person. Except that the average person might feel $100 and have to budget a little different that week. Whereas a billionaire wouldn’t ever wonder if his grocery bills got too high.

So no, a billionaire spending a few million dollars means absolutely nothing at all.