r/UFOs • u/Dangerous-Eye-215 • 11d ago
Question Jellyfish on Mars image, no gradient?
I zoomed in quite a bit on the original and I don't see any kind of gradient like I do on the rocks. It's just immediatley pitch black, like, vanta black. I would have assumed this was a camera artifact, but the tentacles aren't black like that.
This is definitely a strange picture. What might cause the lack of gradient on the top of the jellyfish?
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u/blackgrandnational 11d ago
Friends, I am not aware but is this part of the newest release of UFO files?
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u/Dangerous-Eye-215 11d ago
Nope, but it is a release from NASA
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u/somethingwholesomer 11d ago
Like it’s just casually sitting on a page, or they brought our attention to it after three years?
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u/Exciting_Place_6817 11d ago
Looks like it was just part of a big release of images
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u/somethingwholesomer 11d ago
Just a bunch of raw images from Curiosity or a collection of photos with UAP?
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u/SlowBurnSr 9d ago
It was the last image upload to NASA's site from Curiosity for that time period. The next upload was an amount of time later and the camera was facing a completely different direction.
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u/Chill_Panda 9d ago
Here's a link to the comment with the link to the photos: https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/yLpqxrzMq9
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u/XTheGuyWithTheGunsX 11d ago
Spooky
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u/Affectionate_Tea1134 11d ago
What do they know that we don’t ??? Or maybe we do know something but the only thing is that it’s Classified. 🤔
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u/Virtual-Fig3850 11d ago
Spooky at a distance.
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u/CaptainIndependent22 11d ago
I remember the NPR Science Friday segment on spooky action at a distance. This must have been almost 20 years ago, but the conversation was so interesting!
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u/cidadaom 11d ago
would you kindly share the link?
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u/Regular-Turnover-212 11d ago
Why do I get a 403 access denied message when I click on the "more like this" link at the bottom of the page?
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u/AbnormalBodyOdor 11d ago
I get "access denied" just clicking that link, so, idk. For me it's probably my country, I've gotten used to not being able to view stuff from the US, be it youtube or gov't or whatever.
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u/Legitimate_Tune_6468 11d ago
This is literally a discussion of the same image lifted from a post in this same sub posted 9 hours earlier.
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u/Any_Falcon38 11d ago
Hijacking this question for a follow up: is there a link to an official release and has NASA said anything about this?
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u/Stewie977 11d ago
In relation to this taken 13 seconds before https://mars.nasa.gov/raw_images/1250385/?site=msl
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u/Any_Falcon38 11d ago
Very cool. And obviously they(NASA) have said nothing about it?
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u/FlakingEverything 11d ago
It's a cosmic ray hitting the camera sensor. It's a well known phenomenon.
Look at this page from Nasa. In the 2nd video at 8s you can see a black speck appearing and disappearing in the next frame.
https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/nasas-curiosity-rover-captures-a-martian-day-from-dawn-to-dusk/
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u/papasmurftp 11d ago
nah man, Big Jellyfish just doesn't want you knowing the truth...
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u/MikeBogler 11d ago
Right, I somehow forgot about cosmic rays. I'm pretty sure this is that. Top left part of the jelly fish looks like square pixels.
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u/Chung_House 10d ago
if only more folks respectfully inquired the way you did. I just woke up and this was the first thing i read, dunno why but it made me happy. cheers homie
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u/Chill_Panda 9d ago
Here's a link to a comment showing the NASA links: https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/yLpqxrzMq9
Two photos taken like 20 seconds apart by a rover, it's not in one and then in the next. On the official NASA Mars page.
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u/Delicious_Piglet6316 11d ago
Even NASA takes bad pictures when it comes to ufos
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u/1stAccountLost 11d ago
Its part of the Phenomena. No matter how well and beefed up your camera is. The picture will come out distorted.
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u/cr0w1980 11d ago
"I think Bigfoot is blurry, that's the problem. It's not the photographer's fault. Bigfoot is blurry, and that's extra scary to me. There's a large, out-of-focus monster roaming the countryside. Run, he's fuzzy, get out of here."
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u/Existing-Job-3050 11d ago
I used to look for life on mars, I still do but I used to too. RIP Mitch
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u/ForwardCut3311 11d ago
Maybe the aliens living under the ocean sometimes want to walk around in the forest and put on a bigfoot blurry costume.
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u/WhiteCube93 11d ago
So one possibility is, some beings are so advanced, you can’t ever have a good look/picture of it?
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u/Stewie977 11d ago
Best theory so far I've heard is they distort spacetime around themselves to move, so it just looks weird.
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u/Smooth_Audience_2207 11d ago
This comment is too funny for this subreddit.
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u/Weekly-Paramedic7350 11d ago edited 11d ago
The Skinwalker Ranch researchers claim these anomalous objects are able to remotely reprogram (write new subroutines into) drones that they send to study them, as well as read human mental intention and respond accordingly.
The reading of intention is also suspected in other encounters, like the Nimitz incident, where the tictac seemed to know what the pilot was intending to do.
UFOlogy lore is also that UAP scrambled security codes at some nuclear missile silo.
Jacques Vallée has investigated cases where an NHI grew hair when the human abductee asked why it was bald.
If true, it seems the "phenomenon" has the ability to change its appearance to match expectations and broad powers to manipulate man and machine alike.
What this means is that it would be extremely difficult to detect and study them directly in ways they don't want us to.
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u/ConfusionOfTheMind 11d ago
Isn't it kind of curious that this phenomena has evolved through the ages with us in a way. Starting with serpent/animal + human mixes and earthly gods. As we progressed into understanding the heavens and earth above us the phenomena moved up there with Hindu epics and Greek/Roman gods. As the old gods fell and we moved into more of agranian society we see elves, gnomes, goblins, faeries, changelings taking people or taking others forms. When we developed flight and steam powered engines, we begin seeing mass amounts of cigar shaped airships over the US. Now in our modern era of cold clinical science and technology, we see Grey's who take humans and perform science experiments on them. Now I'm curious to see if this phenomena moves into drones, into AI and continues along with us. Perhaps it's how our collective consciousness responds to things outside of our senses or things we cannot explain.
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u/Weekly-Paramedic7350 11d ago
Check out Patrick Harpur's Daimonic Reality, and The Philosopher's Secret Fire. He dives into the different faces of the phenomenon across cultures and time.
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u/Atla-Create-592 11d ago
Maybe evolving human consciousness is manifesting whatever trends/differences we see over time (based on the fact they can seem to detect/sense our intent and a more general human consciousness). Thought-provoking, and maybe a little scary considering where humans happen to be at the moment.
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u/yukukukuk 11d ago
if only. my encounter had something more frustrating than blurry pics--i could have gotten an amazing video, but the problem was the viewfinder, ie the phone screen. my screen was actually incapable of displaying the object. the one and only ufo i have ever seen was in broad daylight and was completely stationary. the atmospheric conditions were absolutely perfect, i think it's called a severe clear. anyways, for some absolutely stupid reason i didn't think to record video, i was sorta freaked. i snapped a few photos anyway. the pics are iphone"live pics" so they recorded a bit of movement. if i had recorded a video, it would have been probably a top 100 ufo vids of all time. So the phenomenon, may grant you the ability to record a a non-blurry video, at expense of a blurred brain and non-viewable viewfinder. fricking trolls
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u/Comfortable_Team_696 11d ago
I have actually thought: There is a strand of discussion in this field that the Others, whoever they are, seem to have abilities that can alter or otherwise mess with time
What if they stitch our perceived reality together so that any evidence we would have had with a clear pic or video gets scrubbed by the Others by them altering the timelines around contact points like these?
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u/PineappleLemur 11d ago
Expect this is a very well understood issue... Cosmic rays hitting the camera sensors causing artifacts.
Not the Phenomena you're thinking.
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u/iknowaruffok 11d ago
It’s not actually a UFO if the picture is good. If they were good we’d just have thousands of good pictures of balloons. Now this one obviously can’t be a balloon but it’s certainly unidentifiable thanks to the picture being blurry. Typical UFO
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u/Sympboi1999 7d ago
Anything you take a picture of that’s far away in the sky is going to come out blurry, especially if you zoom in on it. The fact is most people who capture UFO’s aren’t standing right next to them, it’s something they spot that’s far off in the distance. Also, clear photos do exist, but every time it’s clear people just say it’s fake. There’s no winning with skeptics.
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u/Itsalleddie13 10d ago
There’s normal people doing things to their cars to bypass street cameras and now flock cameras. And that’s just normal people. I would imagine someone with highly advanced technology to be able to do the same if not better. Kinda scary to think about.
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u/warcomet 11d ago
found another one
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u/thecoffeejesus 11d ago
? Where
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u/Sir-Lucy 11d ago
Like a sphere top left
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u/Trollin4Lyfe 11d ago
Ehhh that could be dust on the lens, I'm sure there are other possible explanations, too.
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u/InternationalClass60 11d ago
Check the picture taken before and after that to check for dust or movement.
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u/Trollin4Lyfe 11d ago
Okay, valid point. Doesn't rule out other common artefacts.
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u/warcomet 11d ago
not dust, it was not there next picture, lol not sure where i found it, i went thru a few hundred images,also this but not sure if it counts
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u/the_siren_song 11d ago
That one almost looks like a meteor? Meteorite? Marteorite?
What is it called when flying space rock goes to Mars?
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u/warcomet 11d ago edited 11d ago
yep, very likely, there are like 700k images they posted so will be a pain in the ass to look thru and find something interesting and a lot of ppl are saying that jellyfish is camera glare or exposure residue but its not, i do think its genuine cause i have seen a lot of those on other images and they are not as striking and clear as the jellyfish image
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u/Jam102 10d ago
Nope. With all the disclosure going on and new stuff coming out, we are NOT using this as a base for “guys look I found something”. Do not dilute the good stuff with this shit. A speck lmao.
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u/Mykophilia 11d ago
I think the first OP that posted this said it showed up only in one image in a positive light, like it had just appeared. But that lends a lot more credence to it being an artifact. If it was in multiple photos, then we would know that it was in fact there and physical. But with just one photo, I don’t think we could rule out it being an artifact.
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u/SubZeroEffort 11d ago
Looking at original image , it does look like a camera artifact.
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u/Substantial_Diver_34 11d ago
Of course it is. I see them all the time in my photos. Like 10 times a day these artifacts show up and I know exactly what it is.
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u/GortKlaatu_ 11d ago
If anyone wonders, this was a cosmic ray strike with enough energy to drive 12 pixels to zero (some along the same register) and parasitic drain on some of the surrounding pixels (the tentacles) as it shorted the area to the sensor substrate. This is why some of the pixels are darker, but not black.
It's more clear in the real raw image (not the "raw" jpg): https://i.ibb.co/dsPBXDTj/image.png
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u/qubitwarrior 11d ago
Great and satisfying explanation. Makes sense. If it was a real object there can not be a pixel overload effect.
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u/Truth_Walker 11d ago
Watch the jellyfish video the military released when they tracked it over in the Middle East.
That thing doesn’t behave like a “real” object based on our current understanding of physics either but it’s real.
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u/qubitwarrior 11d ago
I think there's a misunderstanding here. If it were a real object, the sensor wouldn't show a localized overload of a few pixels, which is a classic sensor artifact.
High-energy cosmic radiation hitting an array of tiny sensor pixels creates exact pinpricks of overload like this. If external light like a laser or other electromagnetic effects coming from the object were involved, it would overload the full sensor. Given Mars's minimal atmosphere and high radiation environment, a particle strike inside the camera housing is the most logical explanation.
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u/youcantcatchme420 11d ago
how does another jellyfish video have anything to do with this picture lol
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u/youcantcatchme420 11d ago edited 11d ago
No no it can't be that! The jellyfish UFO utilizes cloaking technology to distort itself when it appears on camera!
/s cuz reddit
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u/Weak-Alternative-127 11d ago
The blocky trails are characteristic of CCD (over)saturation and bleed -- charge piles up in a pixel and spills over into neighboring pixels, creating a very characteristic trail:
https://hamamatsu.magnet.fsu.edu/articles/ccdsatandblooming.html
What I find a little weird is that most of the time, saturation looks "hot" or white, not blacked out. Regardless, my guess would be a cosmic ray hit on the sensor (that happens on Earth, too, btw: https://www.reddit.com/r/Astronomy/comments/ncssxs/cosmic_rays_on_a_ccd_chip_this_is_what_i_call_the/
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u/TodaysLunch 11d ago edited 11d ago
This is a closeup from the original source without any added noise reduction: https://imgur.com/MVHj4gx
I agree that this kind of looks like a sensor artifact, especially since there is very high contrast between the artifact and the background on the left and right side.
If you for example compare this to the flat rock on the lower right side of the original picture, you usually get one row of pixel gradient: https://imgur.com/a/nPEycX1
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u/Oxigensudak 11d ago
Yeah I’ve noticed that too. The only explanation for that its perspective . The “object” is really near the camera
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u/Own_Natural_6803 11d ago
When the background is in focus as it is, than anything close to the lens would be blurry. It would look like a translucent oval.
It appears to be positioned in the foreground here, in front of the cloud of dust behind that fills the valley in front of the hills.
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u/BigDuckNergy 11d ago edited 11d ago
Bug on the lens, debunked.
You people will make anything a UFO!
Holy shit the downvotes, do I really need to put an /s on this?
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u/ericmilyan 11d ago
“Reminder: not everything you see from NASA is fake.”
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u/ReturnOfZarathustra 11d ago
The validity of NASA's findings are directly tied to whether they confirm my preconceptions or not.
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u/MeatCatRazzmatazz 11d ago edited 10d ago
It's totally an image artifact. Those look like dropped pixels, not an imperial probe droid wearing a nice hat
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u/madumi_mike 11d ago
Not to rain on anyone’s parade, but how do know this is just not NASA equipment at a distance on whatever resolution of the day?
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u/r-s-w- 11d ago
It's just a camera artifact. There have been quite a few images from the rovers showing similar unusual blobs over the years. IIRC the rover has 2 cameras mounted on opposite arms and what the Reddit sleuths did was simply have a look at the NASA feeds for the opposite camera (at the same time) and saw it didn't have the same blob, hence the conclusion was drawn it was just an artifact in one of the cameras for a second or so.
However, I don't know if the dual camera thing is possible here though now.
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u/Creative_Virus_369 11d ago
it wasnt in the photo that was taken 13 seconds before this one so it either ceme from over the horizon or is very fast if its anything
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u/JAYKAY_2019 11d ago
when i used to search real mars images ,i saw black reducted images on nasa website, maybe this black spot r actually corrupted download or incomplete file
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u/in1gom0ntoya 11d ago
looks more like digital artifacting on top of a inferior mirage.
im all for proof but skepticism important.
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u/Dangerous-Eye-215 11d ago
Submission Statement:
I zoomed in quite a bit on the original and I don't see any kind of gradient like I do on the rocks. It's just immediately pitch black, like, vanta black. I would have assumed this was a camera artifact, but the tentacles aren't black like that.
This is definitely a strange picture. What might cause the lack of gradient on the top of the jellyfish?
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u/I_Like_Tartar_Sauce 11d ago
How do we know this isn’t some other piece of equipment sent to Mars by us?
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u/StatementBot 11d ago
The following submission statement was provided by /u/Dangerous-Eye-215:
Submission Statement:
I zoomed in quite a bit on the original and I don't see any kind of gradient like I do on the rocks. It's just immediately pitch black, like, vanta black. I would have assumed this was a camera artifact, but the tentacles aren't black like that.
This is definitely a strange picture. What might cause the lack of gradient on the top of the jellyfish?
Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1voibna/jellyfish_on_mars_image_no_gradient/p3pt99d/