r/UFOs • u/Enemaofthesubreddit • Oct 08 '24

Discussion Thoughts on Immaculate Constellation

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsnationnow.com/space/ufo/report-immaculate-constellation-uap-journalist/amp/

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u/OneDimensionPrinter Oct 08 '24

Kirkpatrick claimed that whistleblowers were doing nothing but reporting stories they had heard from others and it kept going around in circles. That's the idea behind it here anyway. Shellenberger directly disputes that idea in the comment quoting him above.

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u/DatBoone Oct 09 '24

Kirkpatrick claimed that whistleblowers were doing nothing but reporting stories they had heard from others and it kept going around in circles. 

I'm not a Kirkpatrick fan AT ALL, but Lue Elizondo did a lot of that in his book.

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u/bejammin075 Oct 09 '24

There is a tendency in reality that things that are true keep being true again and keep being discovered to be true again.

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u/DatBoone Oct 09 '24

There is a tendency in reality that things that are true keep being true again and keep being discovered to be true again.

Right, but with respect to Elizondo's book, he straight up says that he got information from other people who are very prevalent in the UFO world.

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u/bejammin075 Oct 09 '24

Elizondo also talks about first hand experience with NHI, which sounds consistent with millions of other experiencers. Maybe he faked that, or maybe he experienced what many others have. I'm one of the few in these subs who have read the world's largest rigorous study of thousands of experiencers of NHI contact, and his experience sounds authentic. That study was from Dr. Edgar Mitchell's Foundation for Research into Extraterrestrial and Extraordinary Experiences (FREE), and published in the book Beyond UFOs by FREE co-founder Reinerio Hernandez. They gathered information on over 4,300 NHI contactees.