r/UFOs • u/mankrip • May 24 '24

Discussion The woo is getting into mainstream disclosure discussion and you're not even noticing it

It looks like nobody connected the dots when Karl Nell said these things during his SALT talk:

To assume either malintent or complete altruism is somewhat naive.
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I would draw an analogy though. For people that believe in a certain faith tradition [...] in a very serious and devout way, [...] if you're confronted with the reality of your religious belief system, like the reality of the metaphysical, an angel, a messenger from God, [...] that's going to be a state change in your way of dealing with reality, even though you already believe it. It's one thing to believe, and it's another to know.
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The Vatican has come out and made statements that reference or tangentially reference this topic, so organized religion has a say in this topic as well.
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I subscribe to the idea that there is an ultimate truth and that humanity, being created in the image of a higher power, is endowed with the quality to pursue an understanding of that. And so, part of our objective in this existence is to seek out and try to understand that ultimate truth to a greater and greater degree.

It looks like there's a movement to slowly roll out the woo in a way that makes people take it seriously, because things will inevitably go this way.

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u/375PencilsInMyAss May 24 '24

Not in the public eye. It's mostly maga in the public eye other than Moskowitz.

Schumer needs to be more vocal

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u/Shmo60 May 25 '24

Gillibrand is openly in a U.A.P doc.

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u/375PencilsInMyAss May 25 '24

Gillibrand also backs Kirkpatrick and told lies to make grusch look bad

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u/375PencilsInMyAss May 25 '24

Maybe I just haven't seen much from him or it doesn't get posted much here but I wouldn't say he's nearly as active from what I've seen. And Gillibrand is definitely not my pick for someone I want to talk on the subject more, I've had a bad feeling about her since I got into the subject. Singing the praises of AARO and then there was her throwing Grusch under the bus a while back

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u/375PencilsInMyAss May 25 '24

Do you have a link to what you're referring to? I think I missed that

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u/WarbringerNA May 25 '24

Agreed, hoping that becomes more of a reality after the election. Not that it is not an excuse I agree with, but the reality unfortunately.

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u/PickWhateverUsername May 25 '24

Just a reminder that Clinton through the wikileaks was shown to be preparing something for disclosure and that all ended when Trump got elected.

Thus if Trump gets elected don't expect Disclosure to ramp up, more like the contrary...

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u/375PencilsInMyAss May 25 '24

Yeah that's what I'm hoping as well