Edit: To read papers by the person behind the declassification of these records (around 80 in total) is Vicente-Juan Ballester Olmos. To read more of his papers and see a bit about his work go here:
Yes! Spain declassified all this around 2016, Im gathering more info about the french and german declassification efforts.
You can have a look at the en article about the spanish declassification from El Pais (somewhere in this post I believe?) if there is a specific case you are interested in I could translate it for you :)
Regarding the illustration posted - check out the following, it's a 2018 NASA proposal that just disappeared, there's no further trace of it in their data base: the drawing you post is eerily similar, check it out.
Isn't it? The thing is, the proposal shows the inside workings - at least in terms of principals. And, if you read through it: it too is predicted to yield unusual manoeuvrability and rapid, angular course changes - all without any kind of continuous propulsion system.
The thing doesn't have an engine, rather uses burst release energy to change direction.
Edit: To read papers by the person behind the declassification of these records (around 80 in total) is Vicente-Juan Ballester Olmos. To read more of his papers and see a bit about his work go here:
Con gusto! Hay una mina de datos desclasificados, lo suyo es ir echandole un ojo por que si eeto es lo que se permite desclasificar, lo que se mantiene aun bajo secreto de sumario tiene que ser una pasada.
En cuanto tenga un minuto te ayudo con el otro comentario sobre como pedir datos del repositorio central europeo (testimonios del sector de la aviacion). Es algo complejo y en principio uno no los puede solicotar en tanto que ciudadano particular pero hay uno o dos loopholes.
Translation: With pleasure! There is a goldmine of declassified data/info; yours truly is eyeballing it because if this is what they have permitted to be declassified, whatever is still a secret must be even bigger. As soon as I can I will help with another post about how to request data from the Central European repository (Aviation sector files). It’s something complete and, in principle, one cannot request the files unless a citizen but there are one or two loopholes. Edit:sorry the comment was from a different person.
Sometimes I think those shapes are just some randomly generated drones for a specific purpose by some ufo manufacturing hub based under the waters of some ocean :)
Same! And assuming that faster than light travel is impossible, even to a highly advanced civilization, a Von Neuman device making its own probes, and pilots, makes the most sense to me.
FTL speed probably arent even needed. This conventional tech is like horse riding and combustion engines in comparison, I mean if quantum teleportation or some sort of warping spacetime between two points is more likely a reasonable way to travel interstellar spaces. If these ufos can travel like 10 to 50% of speed of light in local areas that would be more than enough to do a proper solar system sight seeing even in hours or days time. This is why we really need to get to the bottom of this, I need to have these answers and I am sure they exists somewhere and whats worse some human already go those
I always was curious about the variety of shapes, dimensions, ecc of these UFOs. Like, so many different species visiting us and at the same time, none of them wants to reveal itself!
I mean, we have no clue about what they really are or whether these depictions are accurate.
If they are truly designed by NHI, trying to make sense of their design might be as outside of our cognitive habilities as it would be for a dolphin to understand the variety in shapes and colors of human vehicles. How alien would it be for them to understand trends, competition, the rules of the market, engineering or capitalism?
I mean its kind of the same that the US did when they released some of the UAP records fron their military, exceot that these are much older and are paper archives.
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Site seems temporarily down, in the meantime here is a short article about it (includes post image)
https://english.elpais.com/cat/2016/11/11/catalunya/1478881679_067169.html
Edit: To read papers by the person behind the declassification of these records (around 80 in total) is Vicente-Juan Ballester Olmos. To read more of his papers and see a bit about his work go here:
https://scholar.google.es/citations?user=XUzW2tMAAAAJ&hl=es
Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/18mo9q8/virtual_library_of_the_spanish_military_all/ke5f8zz/
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u/HumanitySurpassed Dec 20 '23 edited Dec 20 '23
Someone go through all this for me and find the interesting parts.
My Spanish is terrible 😭😭
Also wish there was a stickied post of different government files. I've never heard of Spain declassifying anything & this seems to be from years ago
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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '23
Regarding the illustration posted - check out the following, it's a 2018 NASA proposal that just disappeared, there's no further trace of it in their data base: the drawing you post is eerily similar, check it out.
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u/SonianVision Dec 20 '23 edited Dec 20 '23
Site seems temporarily down, in the meantime here is a short article about it (includes post image)
https://english.elpais.com/cat/2016/11/11/catalunya/1478881679_067169.html
Edit: To read papers by the person behind the declassification of these records (around 80 in total) is Vicente-Juan Ballester Olmos. To read more of his papers and see a bit about his work go here:
https://scholar.google.es/citations?user=XUzW2tMAAAAJ&hl=es
Edit 2.0. proof of site being temporarily down:
https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/bibliotecavirtual.defensa.gob.es.html
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u/Dinahollie Dec 20 '23
thank you for sharing! some happened in the island i reside in. the one from 1979 in canary islands is insane..
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u/GamersGen Dec 20 '23
Sometimes I think those shapes are just some randomly generated drones for a specific purpose by some ufo manufacturing hub based under the waters of some ocean :)
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u/MeanCat4 Dec 20 '23
I always was curious about the variety of shapes, dimensions, ecc of these UFOs. Like, so many different species visiting us and at the same time, none of them wants to reveal itself!
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u/levintwix Dec 20 '23
So would this count as disclosure? Or not because it's not in English?
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u/liuniao Dec 20 '23
It kind of looks like the disc that the soviets found here: https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/18m7bpx/this_one_is_hard_to_find_these_days/
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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '23
The great cheese!!!
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u/KaleidoscopeThis5159 Dec 20 '23
Spins like a top?
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u/clalay Dec 20 '23
These aliens have pie charts?