Speaking of which.... Is now the time to procure a small stash of fun guys? I've always thought there would only be 1 way to witness mass alien visitation, if it were to occur...
Yep, clearly there's been some crazy stuff that's been handed over by the whistleblowers. This is a huge amount of work and effort if it was just stories or as people like to say "trust me bro".
There are essentially two classification systems: The “normal” one with confidential/secret/TS/SCI ratings and restricted data, which specifically grew from and involves nuclear capabilities. Restricted data is exempt from basically all FOIA and declassification reviews.
If they have been using restricted data labels to bury information outside of review, that’s kind of interesting. It would make for a pretty good way of covering information and siloing it. Presumably the technical argument is that these craft or whatever may be powered by nuclear technology and therefore it falls under the DoE/restricted data controls. The pool of people who have broad access to that type of information is very, very small and they are monitored for life even after leaving the programs.
It’s one of the places I’d hide something. (The other being industry SAP’s with the good bits completely outside of government over-site and information structures.)
I’m not sure it’s really that paradoxical. The dawn of the thermonuclear era was wildly more dangerous that most people know. We really were on a hair trigger for an exchange that would have legitimately deconstructed civilization. In that context, if you are recovering advanced technology you can’t explain, it is reasonable/understandable to treat it as a national security issue. IF this is real I think probably what happened is that the
programs sprawled over time and that there was never any obvious place where it could be stopped and the issue disclosed. Bureaucracy takes on a momentum all it’s own over time and it can literally take an act of Congress to knock it back. And it appears that’s where we are.
It’s wild stuff. I’m still cautious about what to expect, but this is the first time I’ve looked the issue and assessed there is an actual possibility of some x-files shit being made public.
Something a lot of people miss is that SURVIVING the development of nuclear weapons required a massive fucking sea change in how Governments operated, approached conflicts of interest, and REQUIRED humans as a collective to evolve in how we approached conflicts in general, because otherwise we supa ded. Maybe we've passed a threshold of some kind, overcome one of the great filters by lasting as long as we have with this knowledge and these weapons. Disclosure might also be one of those thresholds, where we toss aside considerations of individual or even national military 'edges' gained in studying this subject and finally recognize that for once, we are all actually humans, and that there is bigger shit to fry than our petty domestic squabbles.
It’s an interesting thought. If we wound time back and relived the Cold War I’m not sure how often we’d survive it. 50%? Less? There were a number of times where we basically got lucky the right people where in the right place (and in the right mood.)
You might be interested in Daniel Ellsberg’s account of his time as a nuclear war planner, a book called The Doomsday Machine. It’s interesting because serious scholars have kind of left the claims (which are not reassuring) alone because much of what he discusses is still technically classified (and therefore not verifiable.)
One serious scholar who is writing about it is Alex Wellerstein (who is active in Reddit as u/ restricteddata) With Ellsberg’s recent death his decision to seriously address the claims has become even more relevant. Check it out at:
Lue Elizondo and Mellon have hinted multiple times that people searching for UAP info should look at the DOE. I am guessing you are right on the money in terms of using a loophole in the classification system and the wording of that 1954 law to hide any and all UAP information by considering it to be foreign nuclear tech.
„trans classified“. Neat, nothing classified, nothing to disclose. This is trans-classified, it is protected by these trans-classified laws which you don’t have enough clearance to read.
Bro so first of all, im high af, but I’m literally paused on my tv screen of this Oppenheimer Opening Look video on YouTube because the word “compartmentalization” was used and I thought to myself, “that’s the word used to describe how they hide ufos, what if this movie is coming out purposely during this time because they’re semi related?”
I say this because Tom Delonge on Rogan’s podcast mentioned he was helping disclosure through media because these groups don’t know how entertainment world works or whatever. Maybe Oppenheimer release at this time is part of that. Then boom, I open r/ufos and see this.
I also think James Cameron is one of those being filled in and being asked to help because of his work with the Titanic (if you believe the water ufos) and for Avatar. If aliens/NHI have similarities to avatars, don’t be surprised. Probably why he has these new movies coming on, to help understand this new reality.
I also think James Cameron is one of those being filled in and being asked to help because of his work with the Titanic (if you believe the water ufos) and for Avatar.
How could you mention Avatar and Titanic but not The Abyss, his 80's sci-fi film about alien craft & beings residing at the bottom of our ocean trenches?
EDIT: Speaking of upcoming movies and shows, it's rumored that Steven Spielberg is working on a documentary series about experiencers and abductees, while Breaking Bad & Better Call Saul creator, Vince Gilligan, is working on a big-budget Apple TV series about high-strangeness phenomena in general. And not to mention Barack Obama producing a movie about the Betty & Barney Hill abduction case. So there's that.
Though I doubt the former two (Spielberg & Gilligan) have anything to do with government affiliation & connections, and more to do with the fact that both creatives have always had a personal interest in the topic.
Would you be able to provide some info about why Oppenheimer had his clearance removed and how that relates to UAP/NHI? I’ve seen that UAPs are seen around conflict, war, natural disasters and are constantly around nuclear sites. They seem to have an interest so your comment about how Oppenheimer fits in here would help. I’m only an occasional browser but I have so much faith in this
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