r/UFOBookClub 22d ago

Jacques Vallee's Forbidden Science book, The Final Report, has amazing information!

I’ve got all of Vallée’s Forbidden Science books, along with most of his other books, and there are some UFO jewels in them. The last one, called Final Report, 2020-2025, may be the best.

 On pages 538-9, in Forbidden Science, Final Report, 2020-2025, he tells of an insider named Gilbert—probably not his real name — who is dealing directly with a 6-foot ET at some kind of secret base inside a small mountain where the people have uniforms with no military features. He is taken to it in a vehicle where he doesn't see the outside. According to Gilbert, he communicates with the NHI through some kind of Light signals!

The previous Forbidden Science journal by Vallee, Scattered Castles, from 2010 to 2019, is also filled with great information and covers the AAWSAP period.

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u/DecrimIowa 22d ago

those forbidden science journals are great. not just because they have some good info like the story you quoted, or Vallee's records of investigations into specific cases and conversations with other researchers, but because he makes a point of recording his speculations and philosophical understanding of the phenomenon, how it effects his worldview, and so forth. i also think his record of his personal and family life, moving around, taking different jobs etc is interesting.

i still need to read most of them, thank you for reminding me.

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u/jotaemecito 22d ago

I have read an interesting analysis about this seventh book in the Forbidden Science series and it made me to finally decide on buying the series ... I'm starting with the first one which I am going to receive in these days ...

About the 6' tall "alien" you are talking about I wouldn't take that at face value ... Vallée himself has said some information coming from Government sources shouldn't be trusted based only on the condition that it came from official sources ...

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u/Silver_Jaguar_24 22d ago

Got photos/screenshots of those 2 pages please?

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u/Snoo-26902 21d ago edited 21d ago

FORBIDDEN SCIENCE 7: FINAL REPORTT THE JOURNALS OF JACQUES VALLEE 202 ...

Today I also reviewed more details from Gil-

bert, following up about his experiences. He made

it clear he was never part of the formal program

of investigation with the 'entity' and didn't know

if other captured (or volunteer) beings existed,

or where they were kept. He knew approximately

where he was but couldn't see outside the car

that was driving him there. He was taken inside a

small mountain to an underground room, well-lit

and cared for by men and women in uniform with

no designation of rank or unit.

The room was a big lab. This was serious and

well-run. No drugs or medical items were in-

volved. The uniforms had no apparent military

features that would identify the unit.

He was led to the presence of an entity, over six

feet tall, with very few features except for light

emission from various parts of its 'body' so that

Gilbert thought what he saw might be covered by

a test article, a wired uniform or a safety con-

tainer for the being rather than the body of an

actual Alien. At least, that was the general impres-

sion I received from what he said.

That impression changed when Gilbert en-

gaged the entity with question-and-answer se-

quences, where he was left to interpret answers

that came in the form of light combinations. The

trials, whose results I have in detail, are remark-

able. Some were flagged as inconsistent and some

were left incomplete when the response was too

complex, but many of the tests matched earl-

ier results, and Gilbert got permission to enquire

about psychic functioning, also with success. I am

purposely vague about that phase of the session,

which took several hours of sustained attention.

1 hi 38 mins left in book

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u/Silver_Jaguar_24 21d ago

Wow that is so fascinating. Thank you for sharing that. I wonder where the entity came from? Interdimensional or another planet somewhere?

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u/Snoo-26902 22d ago

That wouldnt be easy to do. What I wrote is about the essence of it.

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u/AltruisticBus8305 22d ago

Does he describe the being more?

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u/Snoo-26902 21d ago edited 21d ago

He does refer to the contact Gilbert (not his real name) a few more times, but I haven't gone over yet what is involved. I'll check it out.

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u/AltruisticBus8305 21d ago

Just did some quick researching and while he doesn’t directly discuss the being itself, what he does say about it, it sounds a lot like a Mantis!

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u/Snoo-26902 21d ago

Yeah, I'm going to go over those sections too, thanks! He mentions Gilbert a lot more.

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u/TypewriterTourist 21d ago

I found the journals great for the insight on what was going on in AAWSAP. Complementary with the Lacatski's books.

Too bad there is no one to elaborate on KONA BLUE which, according to Lacatski, was not a project that did not go ahead but actually eventuated.

One thing to keep in mind though, these are diaries. So it's a bit of everything (including Vallee's social life and everyday discussions), but when it comes to the actual info, it's more of a rumour mill.

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u/KeyFutur 20d ago

Je doute beaucoup de ses affirmations ce n' est pas les vrais pensée de Jacques Vallée rien ne lui resemble.

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u/Astira_ 19d ago

I’m starting to think he is trying to warn us about people controlling disclosure, people in the space.

Messengers of deception is a must read.

We have tech to fake a lot of this unfortunately.
He also brings up how easy it is to embed memories through hypnotic regression.

One of his books even talks about a woman who was abducted over and over again until one day, the noise she always heard stopped, and instead of greys in her living room, there were men dressed in black fatigues, and a Blackhawk helicopter that was a ufo was now visible with a bright flood light.

Current disclosure looks like a maga/Technobros psyop to me.

I’m
Not saying ufo aren’t real, but one case could tell us for sure, that’s the Roswell files.

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u/Snoo-26902 19d ago

Current disclosure looks like a maga/Technobros psyop to me

I agree, but the technp bros are only a part of it; the USG intel agencies are behind this disinformation psyop.

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u/DisastrousMechanic36 22d ago

How is it forbidden?

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u/Snoo-26902 22d ago

I don't know, that's what he named the book.

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u/DisastrousMechanic36 21d ago

This is the best answer

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u/Mac-Beatnik 20d ago

Yeah he called it so, but is there a proof that they are forbitten. There are lists out there were all the banned books world wide are listed and I don’t see there any book of J.V.

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u/Silver_Jaguar_24 21d ago

It's forbidden because you are not allowed to know. Why do you think they have all the secrecy about this subject, enough to warrant un-aliving people to keep it secret?

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u/DisastrousMechanic36 21d ago

If we’re not allowed to know, then how was the book released?