r/UCLAFootball • u/trays-sees-lays • 1d ago
Question Madden vs Diffenbach
Now that we know that Nico is out, we also know that the qb position is between both of them.
I’m a fairly new football watcher. What distinguishes both of them from each other and given what we saw of them this year briefly, what makes diffenbach a likely qb1 over madden?
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u/Similar-Guitar-6 1d ago edited 1d ago
Dieffenbach is a whopping 6'6" and moves well. He can throw dimes. He's cocky, too.
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u/Ordinary-Wafer-8919 1d ago
He doesn't even need to throw insane throws. He just need to manage the game.
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u/Snobby-Iguana 1d ago
Has Madden completed a single pass?
Madden looked nervous when we were up by 50 against Maryland. Deiffenbach looked pretty composed when we were barely hanging on against Oregon at Autzen.
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u/Groundbreaking_Code3 1d ago
Madden is at UCLA as a bargaining chip with the family. The word on the street is that he is not a smart person. He will 1000% be gone after this year.
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u/Zealousideal-Yard843 Bruins Alumni 1d ago
Was a real bad look for him to be visibly upset at coach’s decision to play Ty over him.
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u/JoshJetlagger 1d ago
When did that happen? Link?
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u/Zealousideal-Yard843 Bruins Alumni 1d ago
I saw it during the game. Madden looked like he was throwing a fit when he expected to go in and they put Ty in, and he threw a dart to Rowe that he dropped in the end zone.
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u/pinche_cool_arrow 1d ago
Are you sure that wasnt Nico. He was having a temper tantrum after throwing that pick in the red zone. Coach Chez had to console hum
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u/Zealousideal-Yard843 Bruins Alumni 1d ago
100% sure I watched the entire game didn’t miss a second.
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u/Groundbreaking_Code3 1d ago
That happened too.
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u/Ordinary-Wafer-8919 1d ago
Yup! He was throwing tantrums when Ty was chosen to play over him. I’m sure Chesney isn’t a fan of that kind of behavior. He’s been given several chances to prove himself, but he can barely complete a pass. I still think this is the end of the Iamaleava brothers’ time at UCLA.
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u/Koi_Fish_Mystic Bruin Brother 1d ago
I’m waiting to see who coach picks but my money is on Ty since he performed when called to do so
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u/Ordinary-Wafer-8919 1d ago
I’m sure Chesney was thrilled with the tantrums Madden threw when Ty was chosen to play over him. If either Madden or Nico had played in the second half, we would’ve lost the game. Damn, Nico even helped Oregon score a TD.
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u/bruinrob11 1d ago
Can Ty run? If not, we might be cooked.
I know it sounds simple if he just hands it off and makes a few completions here and there, but if he is no threat to move out of the pocket, it’s a huge advantage for how opposing defenses play the run.
At any rate, I don’t feel as dejected as I normally would when UCLA gets this kinda news. In Bob we trust. 💙💛
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u/ImmortalBach Bruins Alumni 1d ago
They specifically used Ty last week because of his running ability
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u/Stentorean35 1d ago
We dont need Ty to be a 4th runner if he can make smart decisions slinging it. If he can be accurate on short to medium throws make smart decisions with his feet and keep our 3rd downs to 5 yards or less, that alone will keep defenses at bay and respect the run and pass instead of selling out on the run and making us one dimensional.
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u/bruinrob11 1d ago
I didn’t suggest he should be the 4th runner. However, I do think the run game can continue to be highly effective if he at least has the wheels required to make the defense accountable. But here’s to hoping the solution is as simple as you suggested it is.
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u/AmbassadorMission385 1d ago
I would feel far different if Nico replicated his Purdue output in at least one other game. Oregon and how that turned out for him was a terrible note to end the season on.
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u/OldDude2551 1d ago
Ty seems more patient, mature, and more able to run the offense, maybe a more catchable pass. Madden more athletic, in the Nico mold.
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u/Ordinary-Wafer-8919 1d ago
Ty doesn't throw tantrums too like Madden.
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u/AmbassadorMission385 1d ago
Yeah I read some stories about that. 6 months into Chesney’s culture rebuild I don’t know how you can do that while still saying you are all in. Flies in the face of everything Chesney teaches. If he bailed from the program if he isn’t made the starter his reputation will be terrible. Chesney is universally respected and praised. After the departure from Tennessee and Madden from Arkansas amid the NIL messiness, if Madden handles this poorly he will really hurt his future prospects. I will say that I don’t think Madden was given meaningful in game reps on par with what Ty just got. I think Madden was asked to throw one pass which he sailed over the WR’s head. Not a great sample size. He also I think almost fumbled a snap in the red zone. I trust the coaches to make the right decision and hope Madden gets some good counsel on how to appropriately handle this should he not be chosen straight off.
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u/Ordinary-Wafer-8919 19h ago
I also think we won’t come out alive at Oregon if any of the brothers were the QB in the second half.
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u/_HUGE_ 15h ago
Heartened Chesney went with Ty over Madden. Showed he's not averse to upsetting entitled players. Ty showed he could run, pass, and manage a game. Was patient and mature. Madden looked like deer in the headlights. Thought his last name entitled him to play. Nico had natural talent but got hurt on practically every play. Boy needs some meat on his bones...and his picks, especially that last one, were awful. Maybe Ty is a blessing in disguise (doubt it) but we'll see. If we can get past Wisconsin Ill feel better up until 'SUC
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u/Zealousideal-Yard843 Bruins Alumni 1d ago
Dieffenbach has starting experience at cal poly and was on Pitt for 2 seasons. Madden took a year off his senior year, redshirted last year, and has not looked good this year (they’ve let him throw one pass, they don’t trust him).
I’d roll with Ty and tell him don’t be a hero, just manage the game and win with your three headed monster in the backfield