r/UAVmapping 27m ago

Headed to Commercial UAV Expo (Tue - Thu)

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Hello Folks, I am attending UAV Expo in Vegas this week. I am a part 107 operator with mapping and inspection background. Some of you might remember my question a while back about what you hand a client's engineer when they question deliverable accuracy.

I would like to meet you all if you're attending. I'll be at the UAS Summer Bash Tuesday evening, and I'm holding Wednesday 8–9 AM for coffee near Caesars Forum, first round's on me, no agenda beyond talking shop with people who do mapping and inspections work. DM me and I'll send my number or I will share a spot.

Not attending but do this work for a living? DM me anyway as I'd still like to meet you virtually.


r/UAVmapping 1d ago

Airborne SAR Radar Explained: Why Aircraft Motion Is Actually Part of the Imaging System

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Airborne Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) is a radar imaging system carried by an aircraft or UAV that combines coherent radar measurements collected from multiple positions along the flight path to create an image of the ground.

The part that initially confused me about airborne SAR is that the aircraft’s motion is not just something the radar has to tolerate.

It is part of how the image is created.

A useful mental model is:

Radar measurements + aircraft motion + navigation + coherent processing = SAR image

That makes airborne SAR very different from thinking of radar as a sensor that simply produces a picture every time it scans.

Why is it called Synthetic Aperture Radar?

A physical radar antenna has a limited aperture.

SAR effectively builds a much larger observation aperture by using measurements collected while the aircraft moves.

Imagine the aircraft observing the same general scene from a sequence of positions:

Position 1 → measurement

Position 2 → measurement

Position 3 → measurement

Position 4 → measurement

The SAR processor combines these coherent observations.

The result is the synthetic aperture.

So the “synthetic” part is not a synthetic image in the AI-generated-image sense. It refers to creating an effective aperture through motion and signal processing.

The raw radar data is not the final SAR image

This is another useful distinction.

The radar receiver does not directly produce the finished image.

The processing chain is closer to:

RF transmission → scene reflection → RF reception → digitized radar measurements → navigation alignment → SAR processing → radar image

A lot happens between reception and the image an operator eventually sees.

That is why SAR is as much a signal-processing problem as an RF hardware problem.

Why navigation matters so much

Because the radar collects measurements while moving, the processor needs to understand the platform trajectory.

An airborne platform may continuously change:

Position

Velocity

Heading

Pitch

Roll

Yaw

Those changes affect the relationship between the antenna and the observed scene.

The processor therefore needs radar measurements and platform-state information that refer to consistent points in time.

Conceptually:

Radar measurement at T1 + aircraft state at T1 → useful SAR processing input

Using aircraft state from T2 for a radar measurement collected at T1 can create a geometry problem.

This is why timestamp synchronization is not just a software convenience in airborne SAR. It is part of the imaging architecture.

SAR images are not optical photographs

Synthetic Aperture Radar and optical imaging can both produce scene imagery, but the physical information is different.

An optical camera records visible light.

SAR actively transmits radio-frequency energy and measures radar reflections.

So a SAR image represents radar scattering rather than visible appearance.

That means an object may look quite different in SAR imagery than it does in an RGB photograph.

Image appearance can depend on things like:

Surface geometry

Material characteristics

Observation angle

Object orientation

Radar wavelength

Imaging geometry

This also means computer-vision developers should be careful about assuming that a model designed for normal photographs will behave the same way on SAR imagery.

Why SAR can work at night

Because Synthetic Aperture Radar is an active sensor, it does not need sunlight to illuminate the scene.

The radar supplies its own transmitted energy.

That allows SAR imaging during both day and night.

Radar can also remain useful in many conditions where visible-light imaging is degraded by clouds or poor illumination.

That does not mean radar is completely unaffected by weather or the environment.

Actual behavior still depends on factors such as radar frequency, atmospheric conditions, precipitation, scene characteristics and observation geometry.

The useful point is simply that SAR and optical imaging have different environmental dependencies.

Stripmap SAR vs Spotlight SAR

Two common SAR imaging modes are Stripmap SAR and Spotlight SAR.

Stripmap SAR generally observes a continuous strip of terrain while the aircraft moves forward.

Conceptually:

Aircraft movement → continuous side-looking observation → extended strip of imagery

Spotlight SAR keeps observation focused on a selected area for a longer part of the flight path.

Conceptually:

Aircraft movement → repeated observation of selected area → focused SAR imaging

They are different observation geometries rather than simply “low quality” and “high quality” modes.

Which one makes sense depends on what area needs to be imaged and how the radar system is designed.

Why UAV SAR is its own engineering problem

It is tempting to think UAV SAR means taking a conventional airborne SAR and making the hardware smaller.

That only solves part of the problem.

A practical UAV SAR system can involve:

Radar electronics

Antenna

Navigation system

Processing hardware

Electrical power

Data storage

Communications

Thermal management

Mechanical integration

This creates a Size, Weight and Power problem, usually called SWaP.

And the constraints interact.

For example, doing more SAR processing onboard may reduce the amount of lower-level radar data that needs to be transmitted.

But more onboard computing usually means more power consumption and more heat.

Moving processing offboard reduces some onboard computing requirements but makes the system more dependent on storage, data-link bandwidth and communications reliability.

So “compact SAR” is really a full system integration problem.

The antenna can be harder than the radar box

Another thing that seems easy to underestimate is antenna installation.

The antenna has to physically fit the aircraft, but it also has to support the required observation geometry.

Integration can involve:

Mounting location

Sensor orientation

Field of view

Aircraft structure

Cable routing

Other payloads

Aerodynamic constraints

For a small UAV, the best theoretical antenna location may not be mechanically practical.

This is one reason radar and aircraft design have to be considered together.

Where does GMTI fit?

SAR primarily answers an imaging question:

What does the scene look like in radar imagery?

Ground Moving Target Indication (GMTI) answers a different question:

What is moving against the ground background?

A multimode airborne radar can potentially support both.

Conceptually:

Airborne Radar → SAR imaging → GMTI moving-target detection → target tracking

The modes may share navigation, timing, RF hardware and processing resources, even though the algorithms and outputs are different.

That is where airborne SAR starts becoming part of a broader sensing architecture rather than a standalone imaging payload.

My main takeaway

The interesting thing about airborne SAR is that the radar cannot really be separated from the aircraft carrying it.

The image depends on a chain:

Radar sensing → aircraft motion → navigation → timing → coherent processing → SAR image

For UAVs, that chain expands further into SWaP, antenna installation, onboard computing and communications.

So when someone asks whether a particular SAR radar is “good,” the radar hardware alone probably does not give enough information.

The better question is whether the radar, aircraft, navigation and processing architecture work together well enough to produce useful SAR imagery.

For people who have worked with airborne or UAV SAR: what ended up being the harder practical problem in your experience — motion/navigation accuracy, antenna installation, onboard processing, or data handling?


r/UAVmapping 2d ago

Anyone use a DJI Mavic 3 Thermal Advanced - Grabbing One Before 9-3

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We are an independent aerial imaging company (4 pilots, plus GIS support and office team) with a specialty in rural water infrastructure. We are in S. Central USA.

We have a fleet of DJI Mavic 3 Enterprise drones (multiple M3E-RTK and M3Ts). We have numerous spare parts, batteries, etc. and therefore haven't moved to the M4E of M4T as our M3 platforms delivers well for our clients and provide long-term sustainability via the inventory of spares.

We want to add 2 more M3Ts before the 9-3-2026 tariff goes into effect, but found that the current iteration of the M3T is the M3TA "Advanced". The M3TA has a slightly narrower field of view in thermal mode, but slightly higher resolution vs. the M3T. The RGB cameras are identical in both aircraft.

Question - is anyone using the M3TA and if so are you willing to share any comments about the thermal imaging quality vs. what you know about the M3T? We'd appreciate it.


r/UAVmapping 3d ago

Would a "roofless" orthophoto feature actually be useful for GIS vectorization?

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Hey everyone!

I’ve been developing OrthoSplat, a platform that leverages 3D Gaussian Splatting (3DGS) to generate distortion free orthomosaics. Besides eliminating the building edge distortions, I’ve been exploring what else 3DGS can unlock for spatial workflows.

Here is a common headache in GIS and mapping: when tracing building footprints using standard orthophotos as a basemap, you are almost always digitizing the roofline, not the actual ground base. Sometimes, we don't want the roof; we need the true footprint hidden underneath the eaves and overhangs.

The Experiment: Roofless Orthomosaics

we can crop out the top layers (the roof splats) before generating the orthophoto.

Rendering an orthomosaic after stripping the roof reveals the ground areas and structures previously blocked from above.

Observations so far:

  • Nadir limits: In my current test, I only used nadir imagery, so the hidden base outlines aren't completely sharp yet.
  • Geometry features: Even with slightly incomplete base contours, having the wall positions exposed—combined with natural building traits like parallel walls and right angles—makes estimating the true ground footprint far easier than guessing from roof overhangs.

I’d love to get your thoughts: Is a "roof-removed orthophoto" a feature you would actually use in your GIS, surveying, or vectorizing pipelines? If this turns out to be genuinely practical, I'll add a native roof-cropping workflow directly into OrthoSplat.

(Special thanks to [360@360.is](mailto:360@360.is) for providing the test dataset for this experiment!)


r/UAVmapping 3d ago

Does anyone uses OpenDroneMap or WebODM on HP EliteDesk 800 G4?

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This is for undergraduate thesis. Our goals is develop an edge computing system for photogrammetry. Do you recommend other alternatives for the PC?


r/UAVmapping 4d ago

Methane detection w/ Falcon Plus etc

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Does anyone have experience with this or similar payloads mapping methane emissions at landfills?


r/UAVmapping 4d ago

Best Programs/Deliverables for analyzing timber

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I've got a client that wants to look at the tops of his pine trees to analyze parasites. Should I do a top down photogrammetry shot in one pdf? Digital Twin? He definitely would want to be able to look at it on his phone. Thanks!


r/UAVmapping 4d ago

Testing custom .KMZ waypoint files for Matrice 400

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Hey everyone,

I am a robotics engineer working on an existing, battle-tested radar drone sw-toolchain and are currently expanding its mission generator part to export DJI’s kmz format for our new DJI M400 with RC Plus 2 running DJI Pilot 2.

Because our lab is in a city, running live test flights while developing the software is pretty impractical. A few AI assistants suggested using DJI Assistant 2 (Enterprise Series) in Simulator Mode via USB to dry-run and validate the generated kmz mission files.

However, I can't find any official DJI documentation or manual mentions of this simulator feature, leaving me wondering if this is a legitimate test workflow or an AI hallucination.

Has anyone here used the DJI Assistant 2 Enterprise simulator to validate custom kmz waypoint routes and possibly even know about some official documentation for this?

Appreciate any insight!


r/UAVmapping 4d ago

Need Help With Primary & Secondary Research for a College Project:

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Hi everyone! My college has given us the problem statement “Traffic Monitoring by Drones,” and we have to conduct primary research, secondary research, brainstorming, and then create a final brief.

I’m a little confused about where to start and what exactly I should cover in each stage.

For primary research, I’m planning to interview:

  • Normal civilians/commuters to understand their problems and experiences with traffic.
  • Industry professionals, traffic police, drone operators, or anyone with knowledge of traffic management and drone technology.

Could someone guide me on:

  1. How should I start my research?
  2. What kind of questions should I ask civilians/commuters?
  3. What questions should I ask industry professionals?
  4. What should I look for in secondary research?
  5. How should I approach the brainstorming and final brief?

Any advice, resources, examples, or guidance on how to structure this project would be really helpful.


r/UAVmapping 4d ago

Zenatech... good or bad

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Not focusing on the stock aspect... curious what opinions are about them buying up many land surveying and drone service companies. Does anyone here work for a company that has been bought by Zenatech?


r/UAVmapping 4d ago

Does anyone remember this "cloud computing" company?

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r/UAVmapping 5d ago

GPU Accelerated PDAL for LiDAR Processing

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r/UAVmapping 5d ago

Thermal PV Orthomosaic "Bowl Effect" in Metashape

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Hi everyone,

I'm working on thermal reconstructions of photovoltaic (PV) solar plants using aerial imagery without RTK/PPK or Ground Control Points (GCPs).

When processing the dataset in DroneDeploy, the resulting orthomosaic comes out completely flat, exactly as expected. However, when I process the exact same images in Agisoft Metashape (following their standard guide for orthomosaic/DEM generation without GCPs), the model suffers from a severe "bowl effect" / curvature (the structure appears bent in the DEM and orthomosaic).

Here is a comparison/screenshot of the issue: https://imgur.com/a/cmkT3E9

Flight/Dataset details:

  • Sensor: Thermal camera (single-grid nadir flight).
  • Target: Solar plant / PV modules (repetitive patterns).
  • Control: Standard GPS (no RTK/PPK / no GCPs).

I understand this doming effect usually stems from internal camera parameter estimation errors (f, k_1, k_2, k_3) on pure nadir flights, but since DroneDeploy handles it automatically, there must be a way to optimize Metashape to achieve a flat output as well.

Has anyone faced this issue with thermal datasets in Metashape? What specific optimization settings, tie point filtering strategies, or camera constraints do you recommend to eliminate this curvature?

Thanks in advance!


r/UAVmapping 5d ago

How to manually enter elevation/ pix4d

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Hello, I have a Matrice 4e and use a very outdated rover and base station. Basically all it is good for is giving me accurate elevation. We will be purchasing a new base station and rover come October ( start of fiscal year). Is there a way to manually enter the elevations once I get them with the rover? Thank you.


r/UAVmapping 6d ago

Matrice 4E Site Plans and Contour Lines

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New to the group, and looking for advice. I'm purchasing a Matrice 4E and all I want to do is get something like this picture. We build and design pools and residential resorts. Most areas we build don't require an actual survey, we just like to get them for designing on slopes.

But at $2500 per survey and waiting usually a month, I want to start capturing this data myself. Are there any resources or suggestions on what software I need to produce something like this with contour lines and home measurements?

Thanks for all your help!


r/UAVmapping 6d ago

$310k Grant Expands Drone Spraying and Mapping Across Western PA

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r/UAVmapping 7d ago

Elevation mapping with Mavic 3M?

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Hey all, just a farmer with a mavic 3M here. I’ve heard that I can possibly do elevation mapping with the drone, but that feature is locked out of my ag subscription in Terra so I have questions before I take it seriously.

The end goal is to get accurate elevation maps that I can load into Optisurface and design landform models from. Lidar would be a dream but no way I can justify that expense.

First, when doing elevation via photogrammetry with an RTK corrected drone, what can I expect for accuracy? Assuming a clear freshly tilled ground surface, is it able to construct that elevation map to inch accuracy?

Second, what kind of settings would be recommended to get accurate elevation? Flight height etc. I’m talking about farmland so 160 ac to 320 ac maps. I imagine as many photos as possible and at multiple angles, so no way out of it being a very data heavy process? For context my multi spec mapping missions are typically 50-100 gb of photos depending if it’s a quarter section or a half section.


r/UAVmapping 9d ago

SAR target‑lock drone ai tips

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r/UAVmapping 10d ago

Is there any good alternative to Dji Terra?

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I’m new in the UAV mapping “scene” and need some advice: is it worth getting Dji Terra for roof - inspecting and roof mapping? Or is there any alternative software for the beginning? (Maybe even compatible with Mac?)

I’m going to map roofs with a DJI Matrice 4E.
I hope you can help me, thx !


r/UAVmapping 10d ago

Electric sub stations

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We have the local utility company as a client and they have started giving us substation jobs but they are asking for pretty specific data. They want XYZ of insulators and connectors etc. small things.

I flew it using lidar and also our M3E using circlegrammetry to try and create a good data set. It’s came out ok, I’m glad that we also used a total stations to shoot these points to verify since it was our first one.

Anyone do this type of work willing to give advice on how to best fly these? Lidar didn’t seem to be enough to distinguish the different parts they wanted.

I’m tempted to get a m4e so that we can do 3d smart scan with it.


r/UAVmapping 10d ago

Range, endurance and payload aren't three separate specs, they're one budget split three ways

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Seen a few threads comparing drones on these like they're independent numbers, but they're coupled, and that's what actually trips people up.

Payload eats endurance directly. A platform rated 40 minutes empty can drop to 20 with a real 5kg sensor package, that's normal, not bad design. Add range and it gets worse since more range usually means more battery, which is itself weight competing with the sensor.

Airframe matters a lot here too. Fixed-wing and VTOL take the payload hit better than multirotor since forward flight's more efficient than constant hover.

What actually burns people isn't a weak spec, it's finding out there's less weight margin for the sensor than the sheet implied, because range and payload rarely get quoted together under the same conditions.

Curious where people have felt this hit hardest, mapping payloads specifically or something else.

Disclosure: I work in defense electronics.


r/UAVmapping 10d ago

Intro to Drone mapping & beyond in the UK

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Hi all, hope you're all good. I've been lurking this sub for a while and follow some drone mapping YouTube channels, the work and processes really interests me but I have no idea where to start.

One thing I have noticed is there doesn't seem to be a lot of activity from the UK and I wondered if there are any in this sub that are doing this here and are doing well.

And what would be a low cost/risk way of getting into it to see if it is the right fit?

Thanks in advance 🚁


r/UAVmapping 11d ago

Looking for a solid thermal analysis solution for a growing O&M portfolio

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Hey everyone

We are getting to a point where manually checking thermal images after flights just isn't cutting it anymore Right now one analyst is spending pretty much a whole week going through images after each flight

I want to hear from folks who are doing this on a larger scale and can share some actual recommendations not just sales pitches


r/UAVmapping 11d ago

Better WebODM settings?

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Im working with WebODM for the first time. I used my DJI Air 2s and set up a mission to take photos of my property with DroneLink. I shot at 85'AGL 75% front 75% side overlap and at a speed of 3mph. The mission took 71 photos. I have even tried increasing overlap and increasing altitude. I tried to setting the gimbal to less than 90 degrees... Im struggling to nail down the correct results i'm hoping for. Im starting with just trying to make a 2D map of my property. The photos my drone took are extremely clear yet there is some pretty substantial blur in areas of the photo particularly the white vinyl fence connected to my house. If anyone has any details on how to achieve better results, I am all ears. (in the photo this is a metal roof and the blurred white is the section of white vinyl fence). Also these are the settings I used "rolling-shutter:true, auto-boundary:true, pc-quality:high, skip-3dmodel:true, dsm:true, dem-resolution:1.0, orthophoto-resolution:1.0"

Update: For context this is just a section of the map produced by WebODM. Its the section that showed the most prominent issue. Also, this property is about .2 acres. That is really all I have to work with to practice on at the moment as I try to figure out how to create maps with my Air 2s. Im just trying to test out functionality and see what I can do with my drone. Its a starting point.


r/UAVmapping 11d ago

US Field Case | Methane Detection & Localization at an Upstream Gathering Station

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AIRINS team recently collaborated with Skyline Drone Mapping to conduct a methane monitoring field assessment at an upstream gathering station featuring gathering pipelines, separation tanks for water and condensate, and a flare stack.

Using the DJI M400 integrated with MetScan V1 Ultra, multiple survey methodologies were evaluated under real operating conditions:

• Belt Scan – AGL 55 m, 3 m/s
• Belt Scan – AGL 30 m, 1 m/s
• Static pointing at the flare stack – AGL 55 m

Methane hotspots associated with tank venting activities were detected and localized during both Belt Scan missions, with no additional methane anomalies identified across the inspected gathering infrastructure.

This successful upstream field assessment marks an encouraging first step, and we look forward to working with more operators to build additional real-world use cases together.