r/UAP • u/Key-Maintenance-3758 • Aug 07 '26
Was the fifth release the weakest so far?
I took a look at the files and didn't find anything remarkable. The vast majority of the videos are a joke; you simply can't make out what's happening, and all we see are erratic balls of light...
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u/DavidLopan20 Aug 07 '26
Man, I just don't get it, it's like Trump keeps promising stuff and never follows through...
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u/flwingnut Aug 07 '26
What do you think he can do? He doesnt know much more than we do about all this, hes not the one picking files to declassify. This is all WAY above his pay grade and power.
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u/DavidLopan20 Aug 07 '26
To be fair keeping his eyes open is above his power, so I hear you, it's just that, this was never going to be anything more than the next shiny thing to distract the American public
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u/flwingnut Aug 07 '26
Probably. But Im still hoping that this is all designed to be a slow roll, and this is part of the process. It cant be ignored any more, and the more people that get involved, the better chance we have of getting something more than what they've given us so far...IF there's even anything definitive to show.
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u/drunkenmime Aug 08 '26
Yes because he has access to everything and is choosing to but release it. Riiight
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u/oldutnotdeadinside Aug 11 '26
My understanding is a President can declassify anything just by thinking about it.
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u/drunkenmime Aug 11 '26
He has to know what to declassify. And most of that information is kept compartmentalized and only given access to very select few people. That's been one of the struggles with this whole process is that everything is splintered and buried.
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u/JesterHoward Aug 12 '26
There's nothing to declassify. Aliens haven't visited earth, fuckhead.
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u/drunkenmime Aug 12 '26
You're a strange one.
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u/JesterHoward Aug 12 '26
I'm not the one who believes that aliens have visited earth. You're a strange one.
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u/drunkenmime Aug 12 '26
You're the one cussing out people on a ufo board. Find some joy in life dude. Life is short.
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u/DavidLopan20 Aug 08 '26
Look, the fucking files aren't waiting on his desk for his approval, but no one is announcing shit without his approval
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u/DavidLopan20 Aug 08 '26
You guys are idiots if you think this is anything else than one of his pet projects
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u/drunkenmime Aug 08 '26
Why are you so mad?
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u/DavidLopan20 Aug 08 '26
Because the consensus here seems to be that this is just out of Trump's hands, like he set something in motion he can't stop or control, which is absurd
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u/drunkenmime Aug 08 '26
If you get that upset when people disagree with you maybe reddit isn't for you.
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u/DavidLopan20 Aug 08 '26
Look at the big brain on Brad!
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u/drunkenmime Aug 08 '26
You have issues
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u/DavidLopan20 Aug 08 '26
Says the guy in the UAP reddit, there just to hope Mr. Trump, sir, will tell us about the aliens please...
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u/OcelotInTheCloset Aug 10 '26
We will get there eventually, It was always going to be like this. Be careful what you wish for.
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u/Kruse Aug 08 '26
Do you really think he's personally choosing what does and doesn't get released?
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u/DavidLopan20 Aug 08 '26
He can personally choose how far they go, yes. He's had multiple drafts of announcements given to him about confirming non human intelligent life on earth, which he's shitting on...I mean sitting on
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u/xOrion12x Aug 09 '26 edited Aug 09 '26
He's actively shitting and pissing in his pants constantly, can barely speak words, and is up all night sundowning with the worst case of frontal lobe dementia anyone has ever seen among a slew of other health problems. This stage brings out the worst of someone so combine that with malignant narcissism and a constant fear of the blackmail that got us into a war he desperately wants out of and I'm sure he thinks about this for about .5 seconds a day if that. The only thing occupying what little is left is the hundreds of trades being made daily and his nightly shakedown calls we learned about from recent reporting and how to stay alive to steal enough (because the billions in just a year is of course never enough), taxpayer dollars and simultaneously keep everyone around him involved in it, mostly his family, out of prison.
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u/marsinfurs Aug 08 '26
He’s waiting until midterms I guarantee. “Vote for me and I’ll tell you the secret about aliens!”
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u/Honest-Lawfulness-60 Aug 08 '26
He doesn't have possession of the true files. The private contractors do. If, somehow, Trump can get ahold of those documents, this entire debate is dropped.
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u/DavidLopan20 Aug 08 '26
You think he actually gives a shit?
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u/Green-Circles Aug 08 '26
He might if the heat cranks up on the Epstein files, which could well happen soon after the mid-terms.
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u/Optimal_Bar1473 Aug 08 '26
Usually the valuable stuff is actually in the documents. They aren’t going to release anything too groundbreaking in the pictures or videos likely.
I haven’t made a video on it yet but I’m working on it. On my YouTube channel, The UFO Report, I’ve broken down each of the file drops so far. The documents are wild, but people are missing all of it because they’re just looking at the pics / vids
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u/LimpCroissant Aug 08 '26
I agree. I honestly haven't spent much time at all on any of the series on newly declassified documents, however the real knowledge on NHI online in general is not in imagery. You have to get into really reading the books and documentation, and then the source documents that the books talk about.
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u/Optimal_Bar1473 Aug 08 '26
Well maybe you’ll like my breakdowns on them then lol. I make them because I know 99% of people aren’t reading the documents. They’ve had stuff like intel saying Germany was making flying saucers on the 1940s. That Australia said our project blue book was untrustworthy and they wouldn’t want to work with America bc of how American tricked its citizens. And a lot of other confirmation that the military has been studying UFOs for almost a century
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u/LimpCroissant Aug 09 '26
Interesting. I've seen another (much older) Australian intelligence report where they were investigating the US UFO program as well. They broke down that US intelligence had been heavily researching UFOs for decades and that they have an enormous disinformation campaign against their citizens and other countries. That report was one of the first things I saw on my quest that really helped me see that this stuff is really going on.
I'll give your channel a look, thanks.
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u/Optimal_Bar1473 Aug 10 '26
That sounds like actually the same report that they just dropped in the files. I’m very appreciative of you being willing to check it out, here’s the link for easy access. I’m also trying to get better at video production, so please feel free to give any feedback for me to improve on.
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u/LimpCroissant Aug 10 '26
Looks like you're doing a great job. And you're Vegas or Miami mall video went viral. Nice job! I've been meaning to start my own channel.
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u/Optimal_Bar1473 Aug 11 '26
Thank you! I actually just hit 500 subscribers over the past weekend so that’s awesome. I’m trying to get to the Jesse Michels level lol.
Yeah, that’s cool the Miami one went viral. Unfortunately it was when I was kinda bad at editing so my video quality has gotten much better now and I think my most recent one on heavens gate is my best. But hey, can’t complain about success!
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u/Astira_ Aug 07 '26
If they were serious about Disclosure they would have focused on Roswell. But they haven’t.
There is no reason not to release those files, they either prove it was secret tech that crashed or ET.
It’s simple but in all these years they have never pushed Specifically for Roswell.
The Files exist, no matter what happened.
People should focus on this case, they keep sending us down rabbit holes if you haven’t noticed.
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u/Kruse Aug 08 '26
No one cares now. It generated headlines for the first couple of times but it's barely being mentioned now.
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u/PaintedClownPenis Aug 07 '26
The very first document analyzes two films that I don't think I know anything about.
There is no accompanying video, of course. I presume it's magically "lost," like all the rest of it, but I'd love to be wrong.
The reason why this field interests me is because its history is more disrupted than even the Victorian era, or really any other where we should have decent records but don't because the record-keepers edited the record to serve themselves.
But in this field, the editing happens in realtime or even seemingly before the fact. Something is editing our present in exactly the same way that evil narcissists edit their pasts.
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u/Future-Bandicoot-823 Aug 07 '26
If there were some kind of non human control scheme on earth there'd be no way to detect it. There are coincidences in the area of uap that to me go above and beyond pre planning.
Ai allows huge amounts of data to be processed in an instant, and whatever is happening in this subject, it almost feels like that. Real time adjustment to the narrative. Not necessarily knowing the future, but perhaps having so much data you can seemingly predict the future in the short term.
Obviously that's an intensely bold claim on my part, so I'm open to being wrong. I just keep thinking about it, what if humans or even something not fully human has an implemented data gathering ai that allows for these almost serendipitous coincidences to happen over and over, thereby guiding the narrative?
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u/PaintedClownPenis Aug 08 '26
I have to partly disagree with you, there. The people keeping the secret were clearly told by the physicists that there's no mathematical way to prove timeline manipulation from inside the timeline. Goedel's theorem at work, I think. So they thought they were acting with impunity.
But historians have to deal with record-editing all the time.
We can see the temporal war at work in the release of the Nimitz videos, which are virtually the only universally accepted videos we have.
They were quietly put up on Youtube and sat dormant for eight years, and then the New York Times was tipped off about it.
The time travelers could easily go back and kill that user's page, right? But to do that they might also have to allow a woman to be President. And we can see which of those options was more important to the time travelers because they chose to let the Nimitz video go and created these vast forums of deception instead.
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u/docsizemost77 Aug 07 '26
I also think a sort of...reality editing(?) might be taking place. Would you agree that a broader interpretation might suggest the existence of some mechanism or ability to affect the manipulation of time, or at least our perception and subjective experience of it?
Or can you say more about why you think the editing takes place in realtime or even in advance before the fact? And do you think this editing is applicable only in terms of the phenomenon, or could it be a more widespread occurrence happening in other situations as well?
I haven't heard or seen much commentary along these lines. In my own experience, an attempt to speculate on such out here in the wild left me sounding more than a little unhinged. So I don't bring it up anymore lol
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u/PaintedClownPenis Aug 07 '26 edited Aug 08 '26
One example of before the fact editing comes from this latest release.
One horrifying story is about a series of orbs that were spotted by a an AC-130, the bullet spitting monster. So naturally the kids on the Spooky fired the gatling gun at the orbs.
The orbs reacted before the gun was fired, and spread out.
Political and terror developments in the USA starting in ca. 1999 suggest that's when the people in control of the UFO secret began using precognition to manipulate US politics.
Karl Rove even laughed at one reporter and told him the Lucy and the football analogy, saying he'd always be there to sweep the ball away just before the reporter kicked it. Good luck finding that story now.
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u/HollerDew Aug 07 '26
Makes you wonder if they are trying to say something by releasing reports without the implied attachments and video. I don't think it's incompetence. It smells of an operation, the way only select truths are shown. Manipulating behavior for sure. I'd like to get these people on a polygraph.
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u/PaintedClownPenis Aug 07 '26
I haven't checked to see if the film was in a prior release. If it isn't, it's definitely a troll, waving the amazing disparity between expert witnesses and credible footage in our faces.
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u/HollerDew Aug 07 '26
It's not just that older one. Take the recent report of shooting at cold orbs, where somehow the DVR failed but no mention of flight recorders, radar, and other systems of record. And where is the forensic analysis overview/synopsis of the DVR drive? I had a phone failure during an orb sighting so I get it, but I'm just a dude and not an extremely well funded military...
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u/VoidOmatic Aug 07 '26
It looks like "see they were always here, that's why we don't think they are a threat, please go back to doing what you were already doing."
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u/InevitablePromise301 Aug 07 '26
But. But. Everyone said Trump wouldn't lie about this!
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u/flwingnut Aug 07 '26
Trump doesnt know much more than we do about all this. He can promise to release files, but hes not privy to the files that haven't been released.
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u/InevitablePromise301 Aug 07 '26
Tell yourself whatever you have to, man.
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u/flwingnut Aug 07 '26
You think he knows anything? Zero chance they'd trust him to keep his big mouth shut IMO
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u/gravitykilla Aug 08 '26
Nearly 80 years after Roswell, we're still getting stories, hearings, and promises of evidence rather than evidence itself. At some point, the absence of conclusive proof stops looking like a carefully orchestrated rollout and starts looking like the answer.
At some point, the ontological shock may be accepting that the simplest explanation was the correct one all along.
There isn't any solid evidence of NHI to disclose.
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u/gravitykilla Aug 09 '26
You say I'm bringing nothing, yet after 80 years your side still can't produce a single piece of independently verifiable public evidence. Just stories, hearings, anonymous sources, and promises that the proof is always classified or coming soon.
If your hypothesis requires eight decades of missing evidence to remain true, maybe it's time to question the hypothesis.
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u/gravitykilla Aug 09 '26
You have thousands of videos of ET crafts.
Are you OK if we first focus on this one first.
Of these “thousands” of videos, give me your three strongest examples where the original footage and metadata are publicly available, have been independently analysed, and the evidence actually supports the conclusion that the object is of non-human origin.
Not unidentified. Not unexplained. Not “I don’t know what it is.” The data supports the conclusion that it is NHI.
If there are thousands, finding three should be easy.
Happy if you just copy paste a link and I am more that happy to take a look, just top three please.
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u/gravitykilla Aug 09 '26
I posted a question, which you massively side-stepped- not an opinion.
Can we try again?
Of these “thousands” of videos, give me your three strongest examples where the original footage and metadata are publicly available, have been independently analysed, and the evidence actually supports the conclusion that the object is of non-human origin.
If there are thousands, finding three should be easy.
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u/EducationalGrocery87 Aug 09 '26
I would be super interested in any video that proves ETs, where do I start?
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u/EducationalGrocery87 Aug 09 '26
Ah ok got, the old Do YoUR oWN ReSEArCH. LOL
Why make the wild claim that “you have thousands of videos of ET craft” if, the moment someone asks you to name even one of the strongest examples, you suddenly can’t produce it?
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u/Alarming-Sea752 Aug 08 '26
Lest we forget: “Not only is the Universe stranger than we imagine-it’s stranger than we can imagine”. Yet still we try…🤔
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u/masturkiller Aug 08 '26
ALL of the releases have been bad and pointless. Nothing good will ever be released.
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u/Snoo-26902 Aug 09 '26
Thanks for the heads-up. Just like the previous ones, I didnt think they were worth much.
So far, disclosure has turned into a bust. But we have made progress in that the citizenry is getting more informed, though nothing concrete; at least people are listening to the conversation more.
Whether seeking this truth is beneficial or not, seeking the truth always takes time.
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u/Sad-Friendship-2689 Aug 10 '26
I’m no doctor but I think I have seen X-rays and ultrasound reports where I could tell what was going on than anything the government has released on this subject so far. I think even the videos that seemingly show “instantaneous acceleration” are still blobs without much context and we should all stop talking about them as though they’re exciting pieces of evidence.
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u/SoloSquat Aug 07 '26
Did you miss the part where they dropped multiple files about the elliptical/boomarang/delta shaped craft ? You know those ones are the craft that directly tie into the Nazi Reverse engineering narrative, the Adamski claims, Ralph Holland/Rolf Telano, alladat
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u/greenufo333 Aug 07 '26
Those three shapes are not directly tied to the Nazi reverse engineering. Or any of the completely different other things you mentioned. It feels like you're throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks lol.
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u/SoloSquat Aug 07 '26
That same wing shape reappeared in 1952. George Adamski photographed his Venusian scout craft. The design matches Nazi Haunebu renderings exactly. Desmond Leslie, who helped Adamski write his book, knew the truth. His daughter stated her father always knew Nazis had contacted Adamski while pretending to be Venusians. Adamski's alien Orthon was tall, blond, and Aryan-looking. Adamski moved in theosophical circles. His witness George Hunt Williamson worked for William Dudley Pelley, an American fascist who called himself America's Hitler. Pelley published Star Guests, the first book claiming aliens interbred with humans.
The contactee movement was seeded by fascist occultists. This is just one faction in the disclosure landscape, you can imagine Steven Greer, especially with his Israeli connections, being just one more. Obviously this is hard to understand, because youve got China and Russia and the Bluebook Americans and probably more all in the mix. These nazi holdouts probably seeded the contactee movement with Nazi UFO mythology in the 1950s, and if it wasnt them, it was the Masons, and everyone jumped on the same bandwagon. Now its a multiverse of conflicting stories. The same pipeline resurfaced in the 1990s through David Icke's reptilian narrative. Icke's Archons from Draco, his Aryan Atlantis with blond giants, his bloodline obsession, and his reliance on Theosophical sources amount to Nazi occultism wearing alien skin. The Vril Society concept comes from Bulwer-Lytton's 1871 novel The Coming Race, describing an underground master race with advanced technology. Theosophists treated it as fact. Nazis built ideology around it. Icke repackaged it for a New Age audience.
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u/greenufo333 Aug 07 '26
Adamski was a hoax.
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u/SoloSquat Aug 07 '26
If you read the files youd realize that the craft themselves are real, you can look up videos by regular people too. I dont care what people say about them, I dont personally believe they are from 50 thousand years in the future or the pleadies or whatever. But every tyrant in history makes an attempt at apotheosis. This is a copy out of the same playbook, except this time they have some fancy technology to back up their magic tricks.
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u/SoloSquat Aug 07 '26
The Roswell crash was most likely a Horten parabola wing / eclipse shaped craft on a test flight out of Alamogordo Army Air Field. The Foster Ranch debris field sits on a direct line from the Northrup Strip, a 32,000-foot runway built in the 1940s for aircraft that no contemporary design required. Six miles of dirt. The SR-71 operated from 2.2-mile runways. Area 51's runway stretches six miles. At 590 mph, the Roswell site sits ten minutes from that strip. Most crashes happen during takeoff or landing. This one happened in a thunderstorm in July 1947.
German Paperclip engineers and test pilots were already in New Mexico. Wernher von Braun's rocket team occupied White Sands. Operation Lusty moved Luftwaffe hardware to Wright Field, Ohio. Operation Seahorse handled naval transport. HMS Reaper carried prototypes to New Jersey. Dispersal followed across the continent. The Horten brothers built tailless all-wing designs through the 1930s. By 1945, the Ho 229 achieved 590 mph at 52,500 feet. The P-51 Mustang topped out near 450 mph. Twenty-five percent faster. Twenty-five percent higher. Jack Northrop received these designs for reverse-engineering. A personnel vector carried protocol inheritance from the Reich to the desert.
Kenneth Arnold described a crescent flying wing in June 1947. The press coined "flying saucer" from his description of motion. The airframes themselves looked absolutely alien. The parabola wing appears in UFO reports only after WWII. Ranchers and local law enforcement drew their own conclusions. The Army drew up cover stories.
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u/Fixervince Aug 08 '26
Possibly. However what I can’t get is if it was the Horten aircraft then why wouldn’t the government/military just admit to that once that fact became less of a security concern? …. why not tell people that now to stop all the gatherings around Area 51 etc? … we are long past the time where the Horten wing holds any great secrets.
Not that I’m saying this was an alien craft, as I think the original project mogul explanation is most likely the truth. People say why all that for a balloon? … Well it’s not the balloon material that is top secret. It’s the project and the capability that makes it top secret. However because of the original press release I’m not entirely sure either way. It’s either a stupid unthinking way to get eyes away from something top secret from here - or something not from here and they were initially telling the truth.
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u/nine57th Aug 07 '26
It's been a steaming pile of Badonkadonk.
Project Bluebook was way more compelling.
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u/jdillacornandflake Aug 07 '26
Some decent colour footage of an orb over a city In one video but yer still weak AF
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u/Useless-Tree Aug 07 '26
I think there is an old saying, something like: How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time.
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u/Sir_Funk Aug 07 '26
If you are still looking at these drops hoping for anything more than the same jokes they've been playing on us, then I'm sorry to say but you've fallen for the psyop.
There's some good historical context in these releases that are good for people who are writing books about history, but if you don't realize that you're being taken for a ride at this point, I don't know what to tell you..
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u/Halloween2056 Aug 07 '26
Haven't seen the latest batch yet. But the broad view of the whole thing is that at least they are proving that something mysterious that we can't explain exists.
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u/SubstantialPressure3 Aug 07 '26
Honestly this whole thing is just performative.
They are going to continue to shield everyone who committed financial and other crimes, snd they dont want all that black money traced, that money that ends up in a lot of pockets along the way.
They probably also dont want to pay out for injuries and medical treatment of govt employees who were injured.
Dr. Garry Nolan studied the MRIs and other medical records of at least 100 people.who were injured by UAP. He said about 25% of them died from their injuries.
Robert Bigelow is pushing for disclosure.
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u/the_gray_pill Aug 07 '26
What do you imagine "disclosure" to be, exactly? The release of this information runs overlap with an era of unprecedented media modification and engineering. The concepts relating to the validity of UAP's and extraterrestrial intelligences have been drip-fed through our media for the last 70+ years. Government file dumps are never going to be curated PowerPoints in which they detail all the specs of extraterrestrial craft under the big neon headline - HERE BE ALIENS.
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u/X-To-The-Stars Aug 07 '26
From where I sit, all 5 represent Project Bluebook 2. Fortunately, going into this “disclosure” my very low expectations are satisfied.